Does football get started on time?

Imma extort you jerks to get an edit button. 

posted by SportsAndLady

That all sounds nice and dandy, but if a player dies of covid*, the NCAA will be super fucked. 

*I realize the odds are that a player will not die, but if theres even a small chance, they won’t take that risk. They won’t just say “well the odds of you dying from an injury are way more than dying from covid, so game on!”

Even if a player is hospitalized that is an awful look for the NCAA. The NCAA already has an image problem and most people hate them anyway. The fact that College Football also does not have a central leader to steer each conference is a big problem. The conferences are just not talking to each other. The Big Ten apparently caught everyone off guard with the announcement. The SEC was not exactly happy if you follow folks like Bruce Feldman and the Athletic. Conferences now may have to follow suit with the Big Ten and go to a conference or regional based schedule. I have no idea how that will work if teams play different number of games and teams. The MAC also wasn't happy as they are losing millions in OOC games. 

I could see several schools cutting more sports due to the this as well. 

I also think if cases continue to rise into the early August and the death toll remains largely the same, there is no way we have a college season. I'm both mad and just sad that it has come to this. 

Part of me thinks the last image we have of Ohio State and really Justin Fields for some time is that mistaken route and INT against Clemson. 

posted by justincredible

Imma extort you jerks to get an edit button. 

It's a good time to own a gun, right S&L?

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Even if a player is hospitalized that is an awful look for the NCAA. The NCAA already has an image problem and most people hate them anyway. The fact that College Football also does not have a central leader to steer each conference is a big problem. The conferences are just not talking to each other. The Big Ten apparently caught everyone off guard with the announcement. The SEC was not exactly happy if you follow folks like Bruce Feldman and the Athletic. Conferences now may have to follow suit with the Big Ten and go to a conference or regional based schedule. I have no idea how that will work if teams play different number of games and teams. The MAC also wasn't happy as they are losing millions in OOC games. 

I could see several schools cutting more sports due to the this as well. 

I also think if cases continue to rise into the early August and the death toll remains largely the same, there is no way we have a college season. I'm both mad and just sad that it has come to this. 

Part of me thinks the last image we have of Ohio State and really Justin Fields for some time is that mistaken route and INT against Clemson. 

posted by Heretic

If so, it'll be fun watching Notre Dame's "we don't need a conference" attitude leave them out of the loop!

Now would be the time for the ACC to bend them over a barrel. 

posted by like_that
It's already happening.  Stanford cut wrestling and several other sports even though they have a $28B endowment. 

Yeah, I read on the Athletic that was on the docket already pre-COVID as their revenues were really down the last few years. Just looking at the crowd at Stanford football games, you can see that.

I think a lot of departments were banking on that college football money to survive or stave off cuts. Especially in the group of 5 schools, I could see that bascially wiping out some programs. 

posted by like_that

Now would be the time for the ACC to bend them over a barrel. 

From Bruce Feldman on twitter, any ACC schedule would include ND, which is hilarious as it makes no geographic sense. 

SOURCE: ACC coaches have been told of a conference-only games plan (as @Brett_McMurphy reported). I'm told the coaches have not yet been told it’s definite. ACC’s tentative conference-only football plan as they've discussed would extend to include #NotreDame.

— Bruce Feldman (@) July 9, 2020

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Even if a player is hospitalized that is an awful look for the NCAA. The NCAA already has an image problem and most people hate them anyway. T

Yeah, you guys are right about the image and potential lawsuits.

And this doesn't change that, but I'd argue football actually makes these guys safer because of frequent testing and quasi-isolation.  If students come back to campus, I'd argue the football players have a greater risk from the student body at large than they do on the field because of precautions taken there.

I'd go with frequent testing and have players sign a waiver.  Allow them to opt-out of the season while maintaining their scholarship and eligibility if they choose.  See what happens.  I think 95% of the players will choose to play.  And I think they should have that choice - a few hundred players auditioning for million dollar NFL jobs.

Sure it's a bad look if someone gets hospitalized.  But the reality is I don't think football is going to make a difference one way or the other in terms of spread.  If 150 people can get covid at one bar in a weekend, then most of the student body is going to get it at some point.  So you probably should have canceled campus in that scenario.  And in that scenario, you could have football safely in what would effectively be a bubble.

I do think they could have a season safely.  I think there's growing reluctance because everyone knows you won't get close to 100% compliance with the protocols put in place to keep everyone safe.

MLB basically said hell no to the NBA-style bubble because they refuse to quarantine from friends and family (and chasing tail).  That's pretty much America in general and why this continues to spiral out of control.

Every day I'm feeling less and less optimistic about college football.  Regardless of personal opinions of COVID stuff, the prevailing storylines all seem to be headed in the direction of the sport paining itself into a corner.  If outbreaks of unspecified sizes happen and cause programs to entirely shut down for some period now, how will that change in 6-8 weeks?  I do not see any merit in the "conference games only" plan insomuch that it does little to mitigate the real risks of bringing the virus into a particular locker room.  

I don't know, I just have a bad feeling I guess.  And if there are no fans in attendance, I'm not sure watching games would be all that much fun anyway.

HS sports are going bye bye soon.  

posted by Spock

HS sports are going bye bye soon.  

They gave VB, Golf, Tennis the go ahead.  What makes you say this?

Notre Dame playing in the ACC this season 

posted by ernest_t_bass

They gave VB, Golf, Tennis the go ahead.  What makes you say this?

Pretty lazy not to be able to make XC work too

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Every day I'm feeling less and less optimistic about college football.  Regardless of personal opinions of COVID stuff, the prevailing storylines all seem to be headed in the direction of the sport paining itself into a corner.  If outbreaks of unspecified sizes happen and cause programs to entirely shut down for some period now, how will that change in 6-8 weeks?  I do not see any merit in the "conference games only" plan insomuch that it does little to mitigate the real risks of bringing the virus into a particular locker room.  

I don't know, I just have a bad feeling I guess.  And if there are no fans in attendance, I'm not sure watching games would be all that much fun anyway.

I agree with all of this. I don’t have much confidence in it.

COVID effects the young at way to high of a percentage, no way football exist without a vaccine, the numbers for 18-30 year olds having critical exposure is way too high, actually don't expect football ever again, influenza also comes every year and people get sick, so don't touch the shopping carts

Stop being a dumbass.

posted by ernest_t_bass

They gave VB, Golf, Tennis the go ahead.  What makes you say this?

At this point everything has the go ahead.  All sports, contact or not, are starting mandatory practices in 2 days.  THe "go ahead" was for scrimmages and contests which arent going to start for a few weeks anyways.  

I would be surprised anything is still up and running by the middle of August.

posted by Verbal Kint

COVID effects the young at way to high of a percentage, no way football exist without a vaccine, the numbers for 18-30 year olds having critical exposure is way too high, actually don't expect football ever again, influenza also comes every year and people get sick, so don't touch the shopping carts

You’re a moron  

posted by Ironman92

Pretty lazy not to be able to make XC work too

Probably soccer, too. I mean, it was the first pro sport to come back and hold games at the pro level and the athletes tend to be pretty spread out and it's outdoors. Just seems weird to draw a line that says volleyball is cool and soccer isn't.