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On Apr 24, 2019:

  • SportsAndLady replied to "Progressives, part 3..." at 10:57 pm

  • That’s cool. Goodbye to the OC. You guys have ruined this place. Congrats. 

  • SportsAndLady replied to "2020 Presidential Election thread" at 10:52 pm
  • posted by like_that

    Thank you for explaining this, since S&L is intellectually incapable of answering a simple question.  I agree with some of what you say, but I still stand by the left shifting further left as data has shown and the type of politicians are being voted.  I said in 2016 the dems would have their own tea party movement, and they currently are dealing with it.  We will see how they handle it.

    posted by BoatShoes

    What I think S&L is getting at, I think, is that the majority of people inclined to libertarianism - say, being for legalizing drugs (something Democrats tend to support more) and lower income taxes (something Republicans tend to support more) generally seem to vote Republican more than Democrat when they're playing the two party game and, at least on this board in particular, spend an inordinate amount of political discussion on "tHe lEFT" - e.g. multiple threads on disgust with progressives. 

    So while on the one hand you have the true Capital L Libertarians like Justin and O-Trap who will not abide either party -  you have the lower case l libertarians who'd probably prefer a robust libertarian party but vote R 99% of the time because by golly - while the GOP may be a complete fraud doing everything fiscally they railed on Obama about and be totally cool with infringing on property rights on social issues - goddamn those libz!

    It's a phenomenon on the right - people who vote down ticket Republican and then say "I'm not a Republican though, I'm a libertarian!"

    It'd be like me saying I'm not a Democrat even though I vote Democrat every time despite my hope that I could vote for an MMT-Party that wants to cut payroll taxes and sell securities to fund a Green New Deal. There are elements of the Democratic party that embarrass me and that I don't support but the reality is, in our political spectrum, I'm still a Democrat and a left-winger despite what I might want to call myself or vote for in a perfect world. 

     

    S&L is incapable of explaining this, but thank you for translating for the kids table.  There are definitely those who identify as libertarian but vote for R.  Some do it while holding their noses as they see it as the only option to prevent the dems from winning.  Some do it, because they truly aren't libertarian.  There is also a group who will vote for some Rs that have libertarian leanings (i.e. Paul, Amash, Massie, etc).  If  90% of the GOP held their values and remained as principled as them, I would register as a R again (stopped registering as a R after 2012 election).  I have voted libertarian since the 2012 election, even though the party is a shit show.

    Part of S&L's problem is he doesn't realize that most libertarians also hate progressive ideology and therefore a lot of people on this forum whether they are R or L will bash them. 

    posted by BoatShoes

    Obviously Richard Cordray /s

     

    Not familiar with him, I will check him out. 

    posted by justincredible

    I'm small-l libertarian as I find the national party to be a complete shit-show. 

     

    Agreed.  They can't even decide wtf libertarianism and the chariperson is a pandering moron.

    posted by SportsAndLady

    Franklin Graham:

    Presidential candidate & South Bend Mayor @PeteButtigieg is right—God doesn’t have a political party. But God does have commandments, laws & standards He gives us to live by. God doesn’t change. His Word is the same yesterday, today & forever. 1/3

    Mayor Buttigieg says he’s a gay Christian. As a Christian I believe the Bible which defines homosexuality as sin, something to be repentant of, not something to be flaunted, praised or politicized. The Bible says marriage is between a man & a woman—not two men, not two women. 2/3

    The core of the Christian faith is believing and following Jesus Christ, who God sent to be the Savior of the world—to save us from sin, to save us from hell, to save us from eternal damnation 3/3

     

    Yes, lets hear more about how left the left has gotten

    You're still rattled because CHS made a "im gay" comment about Buttigieg? Sheesh.  Nobody gives a fuck about Buttigieg.  He won't win, but if he did he would be the most tolerable out of any of the 100000 Dems running for president. 
     

     

    Blow me dude. Has nothing to do with Buttigueg. That’s a right winged conservative asking a gay person in 2019 to repent. And yet the left are the ones being extreme. 

  • SportsAndLady replied to "Random Travel Thread" at 09:48 pm
  • posted by justincredible

    Any beach towns in Michigan that would be good for a long weekend this summer?

    I spend a lot of time in New Buffalo, MI (and Michigan City, IN). It's only about 4.5 hours from you. It's a blast. Great golf courses, lots of breweries and wineries, and great private beaches. Nice casino (Blue Chip), too.

  • SportsAndLady replied to "2020 Presidential Election thread" at 09:43 pm

  • Franklin Graham:

    Presidential candidate & South Bend Mayor @PeteButtigieg is right—God doesn’t have a political party. But God does have commandments, laws & standards He gives us to live by. God doesn’t change. His Word is the same yesterday, today & forever. 1/3

    Mayor Buttigieg says he’s a gay Christian. As a Christian I believe the Bible which defines homosexuality as sin, something to be repentant of, not something to be flaunted, praised or politicized. The Bible says marriage is between a man & a woman—not two men, not two women. 2/3

    The core of the Christian faith is believing and following Jesus Christ, who God sent to be the Savior of the world—to save us from sin, to save us from hell, to save us from eternal damnation 3/3

     

    Yes, lets hear more about how left the left has gotten

  • SportsAndLady replied to "What's outraging you today?" at 09:26 pm
  • posted by Con_Alma

    Nahh.

    The is president's lasting impact will be the significant number of conservative judges he has gotten seated.  It will continue to impact the country long after he is gone.

    Buzz Killington

  • SportsAndLady replied to "Progressives, part 3..." at 09:23 pm
  • posted by iclfan2

    I’d love opposite opinions. Just saying dumb shit like “prayers sent” isn’t opposition. Nor is saying things like the left isn’t crazier while the highest polling politician currently in the race (until tomorrow) is a loser socialist who praised Russia and Venezuela. 

    Boat Shoes is a total lib but at least argues the views, not just throwing out bullshit deflection.

    What do my views have anything to do with this?

  • SportsAndLady replied to "Progressives, part 3..." at 08:59 pm
  • posted by iclfan2

    Are you stupid? I don’t care about your beliefs. You’re responses like “prayers sent” “lol oh call me a troll” etc is what makes you a bitch. You post nothing of substance. I only post politics here to point out how stupid the left is, but you just bitch about people’s beliefs without actually defending your own or even mentioning your own. It’s weird you can’t comprehend that. 

    Who’s being a bitch now? You’re bitching and moaning that I don’t just quietly let you throw a hissy fit with all your right winged buddies on here. Give me a break. If you can’t handle a little opposition to your opinions, I recommend growing a sack. 

  • SportsAndLady replied to "Progressives, part 3..." at 08:53 pm
  • posted by like_that

    Please STFU, S&L has it all figured out and knows your views better than even you do.   The guy that pretty much shares the same views as 90% of the posters on this site is desperately trying to differentiate himself.  It's hilarious. 

    You’re very stubborn, aren’t you? I’m not trying to differentiate myself. I’m simply lol’ing at a group of people on a forum screaming they’re pretty moderate or libertarian and that the left have gone crazy and are super far left. 

    Youre right, I do agree with most said on here. And still do. But I don’t try and convince myself I’m something I’m not and I certainly don’t let people with different opinions (libs) effect me too much. 

    You guys read some article about how some guy in England went into a women’s bathroom because he doesn’t identify as a man, and you go apeshit thinking that’s how it’s going to be here. 

    Next time, say these words to yourself and then move on: “who gives a fuck”

    youll feel better 

  • SportsAndLady replied to "Progressives, part 3..." at 08:47 pm

  • Lol, you guys are funny. I show up and say “you guys are right winged Republicans” and it throws you in a hissy fit. 

    And ICL did you just call me a bitch? Haha wtf? you take politics too serious, dude. When you’re on a message board calling someone a bitch because you disagree with their opinion of your political affiliation, it’s time to re evaluate things. 

  • SportsAndLady replied to "Progressives, part 3..." at 05:21 pm
  • posted by BoatShoes

    And here Gut provides an ironic and good self-owning example of how even the most prominent crazy left person in American politics is not even as progressive as what is considered normal in much/most of the western world - but yet the American left is OFF The RAILS!!! (fwiw I don't support felons voting in prison - making my views on this issue much more conservative than the majority of the world - SJW's hang me in the streets. But hey, the CRAZY LEFT). 

    Here's a list of felony voting in other countries - The U.S. being one of only four that has post-release restrictions: 

    https://felonvoting.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000289

     

     

    The "CRAZY LEFT" folk on here just like to say that because they disagree so much with the "CRAZY LEFT" folk because they're so far right. It's not actually crazy left, it's just left. But they're so far right, that it is viewed in their eyes as CRAZY LEFT. 

    And yet they don't realize it. And when someone like me tells them that, I'm called a troll or accused of being sleeper, or an idiot.

  • SportsAndLady replied to "2020 Presidential Election thread" at 05:18 pm
  • posted by jmog

    You have no idea what a libertarian is if you say they “lean left” or “lean right”. 

     

    Libertarianism is typically socially liberal and fiscally conservative. So they agree with conservatives fiscal ideas and the classic liberals (NOT modern left) on social ideas. 

     

     

    And you have no idea what I was saying. I was saying they're not fucking libertarian, they're republicans who either won't admit it (for whatever reason) or they don't realize it.

  • SportsAndLady repped a post in "2020 Presidential Election thread" at 04:36 pm
  • posted by gut

    Ehhh, it's a true [socially] liberal position, that now appears right leaning because the left has gone batshit over identity politics.  And then on fiscal, it's a traditionally conservative position.

    I feel like the left reflexively labels libertarians as right-wingers, mainly because everyone that disagrees with them gets labeled right-winger in order to dismiss them.

    More broadly, if you are for smaller govt, especially federal - which aligns both socially and fiscally for libertarians - then you are considered at least right-leaning according to the modern big-Fed Democratic party.  The irony is the Repubs aren't really any less big-Fed than Democrats.

    What I think S&L is getting at, I think, is that the majority of people inclined to libertarianism - say, being for legalizing drugs (something Democrats tend to support more) and lower income taxes (something Republicans tend to support more) generally seem to vote Republican more than Democrat when they're playing the two party game and, at least on this board in particular, spend an inordinate amount of political discussion on "tHe lEFT" - e.g. multiple threads on disgust with progressives. 

    So while on the one hand you have the true Capital L Libertarians like Justin and O-Trap who will not abide either party -  you have the lower case l libertarians who'd probably prefer a robust libertarian party but vote R 99% of the time because by golly - while the GOP may be a complete fraud doing everything fiscally they railed on Obama about and be totally cool with infringing on property rights on social issues - goddamn those libz!

    It's a phenomenon on the right - people who vote down ticket Republican and then say "I'm not a Republican though, I'm a libertarian!"

    It'd be like me saying I'm not a Democrat even though I vote Democrat every time despite my hope that I could vote for an MMT-Party that wants to cut payroll taxes and sell securities to fund a Green New Deal. There are elements of the Democratic party that embarrass me and that I don't support but the reality is, in our political spectrum, I'm still a Democrat and a left-winger despite what I might want to call myself or vote for in a perfect world. 

  • SportsAndLady repped a post in "NBA '18/'19 Season" at 03:15 pm
  • posted by SportsAndLady

    I also hate how Russell Westbrook treats that one reporter. Because the reporter wrote a negative article about him, he responds “next question” to every question that reporter asks. Bothers me

    I got a good laugh because one of the Blazers had a shirt that read "Got Bricks? Next question" making fun of Westbrook's shit with the reporter and of his shooting performance in the series.

  • SportsAndLady replied to "2020 Presidential Election thread" at 12:37 pm
  • posted by gut

    LOL, you seem to be taking on the roll of Sleeper....does this mean you will be leaving us soon?

    You can't be that dense to disagree with what I said about Libertarian and classic liberalism....you just be like "derp....right winger", which is a classic libtard response.  Maybe you were Sleeper all this time?

    Maybe you were too young to notice, but about 20 years ago Democrats wanted to do away with labels and instead focused on the individual and uniqueness, wanting to eliminate the entire concept of gender, for example.  They were much more about tolerance, as opposed to today's goals of forced accomodation.  So, yes, 20 years ago that party was very much more classic liberalism....but have today moved much further left.

    That's all for today's lesson.

    So this is the part where you call people trolls or a completely other poster (that you didn’t agree with) because they call you out? So far so good, this all checks out!

  • SportsAndLady replied to "What was the last movie you watched?" at 12:01 pm
  • posted by O-Trap

    I mean, I wouldn't go that far.  Damn.

    No, he’s genuinely a terrible person. I’d call it a “good riddance” event. 

  • SportsAndLady replied to "2020 Presidential Election thread" at 12:00 pm

  • Ahhh, yes. You guys are definitely not republicans/right wing. You’re libertarians! You actually lean left but you just APPEAR to be right leaning because those darn lefties have just pushed so far left!

    never change, OC, never change. 

  • SportsAndLady replied to "2020 Presidential Election thread" at 11:02 am
  • posted by CenterBHSFan

    SnL, if you think you can narrow down all of my thoughts about Buttigieg in two posts about him leading/not leading with "I'm gay!" then I'll give you a billion dollars to give me the same kind of crystal ball that you have lol!

    I've said nothing about the fact that I think his military experience is a plus (I've always thought this about various presidents and people who were running), I like the fact that he thinks the left are edging towards authoritarianism and that freedom shouldn't be owned by the republicans right now. I like the fact that he doesn't think terrorists should have the right to vote. 

    I don't like the fact that he led with "I'm gay!" once or a thousand times. Because IMO it's just a sexuality and I'm not into the identity politics thing; which both the left and right are partaking of lately. 

    For the record, in one of my quotes, I was very willing to give HIM the benefit of the doubt and said that maybe it was the people who are running his campaign that ran with his sexuality and that I didn't know. But sure, I smeared him. Ok.

    But of course, that makes me part of the cesspool. But go ahead and keep dragging this out, it's obviously giving you something, whatever that something is is immaterial. After all, this forum is just as much for your enjoyment as it is anybody elses.

    Lol, you don’t have to get so worked up over this. You guys wanted an example of why I thought this place is heavily right winged, and I provided one. Relax

  • SportsAndLady replied to "NBA '18/'19 Season" at 10:27 am

  • I also hate how Russell Westbrook treats that one reporter. Because the reporter wrote a negative article about him, he responds “next question” to every question that reporter asks. Bothers me

  • SportsAndLady replied to "2020 Presidential Election thread" at 10:23 am
  • posted by CenterBHSFan

    Um, no. That's not what I was saying. I saw several people quote tweeting and thought I had replied to one, but I didn't find it (what I thought I had replied to), so I just thought that i had just saw it. I didn't spend a lot of time looking for it, either, just glanced down through a few scrolls.
    I also never said anything about "one tweet" and I certain never smeared the guy. Why would you even say that? You can believe all you want to that this is "a right wing cesspool" but at least be fair in your assessment. 

    I see this on this site all the time - people misrepresenting what others have said. How about stop it? It's hard enough to try to be fair and have a decent discussion without that kind of jackassery. Mistakes can happen often enough, no need to misrepresent just for the sake of making a point.

    Lol. You quoted your own post. You were attempting to smear him because he leads with his sexuality. When in fact he doesn’t. 

    How are we supposed to have a fair and decent conversation when you (sometimes) post non-factual info?