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posted by iclfan2

Adult males pretending to be women dancing like ho’s for children, how is that comparable to child pageants (which I disagree with and a ton of people hated the Netflix Cuties things)? They aren’t really comparable. 

It's not.  Neither is the little girl holding the bondage teddy bear. 

This pageant thing (as disgusting as it is and has always been) mostly just gets brought up in discussions on this subject because the other side likely believes their political opponents while expressing outrage likely had their kids enrolled in it or were indifferent.  Same goes with the catholic church.  Politics infects everything.  There are equally worthless people out there.  The problem is neither side does not want to piss off their share of them.

posted by gut
Is that really new though?  I'm thinking of the kids' pageant circuit that's been around a few decades, at least [and creepy as hell].

The pageant is quite creepy.  Maybe even the cornerstone in recent times.  There is always a push to build on what gets accepted as somehow normal activity.  

Look something evil is trying to come out of the shadows.  If you can't see that there is some sort push to normalize the sexulization of kids at the earliest age you are either a blind fool or worse.

Big family gathering at my aunt and uncles country cabin.  Great weather, kids out fishing, the sound of ATV's buzzing about, a fire by a giant 20ft rock,  several different turkeys.  Its a feast of traditional classics to new additions as the family has grown.  All from two people born 90 years ago.  Grandpa has been gone for the last few.  Grandma is still with us.  Good talking with her. Much to be thankful for.  My grandparents were the best.

A lot has changed since I was a kid and Grandpa asking white or dark with a single turkey and something in his hand resembling an electric bush trimmer.  I grew up on land originally owned by my great grandparents, much of which has now been sold off.  Times change but memories are timeless. Lots of laughs with the cousins who knew the "spots".

That dude is three sheets to the wind.

posted by gut

I don't see a need for a special counsel with the documents. 

No one will ever stir the pot again.  Don't even sniff at it.  There is your need.

posted by gut

There's pretending to keep Trump from running, and there's actually doing it.

A "special counsel" has been appointed.  In other words a "special legal operation".  What is it with oppressive government actions and the word "special" somehow whitewashes reality.  In a "special legal operation" innocent lives get ruined and their finances are razed to the ground by the force of government power with the sole intent to achieve a goal.  I guess it's better than a "special military operation" where cities are destroyed and dead well into the 6 figure range.

posted by kizer permanente

It shouldn't, but Republicans are the ones who don't want counting to begin until election day since Trump did a great job convincing them the elections are rigged. Then the same Republicans complain it takes too long to count mail ins.

https://apnews.com/article/elections-local-elections-9ee577c7a06132f87ddb0217bfcd4b73

So what you are saying is both parties are fucking it up it places.  I am shocked.

posted by gut

I don't think there's any chance Trump gets re-elected.  I think he's a big reason the "red wave" was barely a ripple.  If he's on the 2024 ticket, that virtually guarantees Dems control all of government.

The best way for the leaders of the republican party to get rid of Trump is to figure out why a large number of their base loathe them.

posted by iclfan2

You should not have to wait this long to find out results of an election. It’s ridiculous. 

We shouldn't. Our republic is designed to handle the occasional hiccup but when this becomes the norm it's not just ridiculous it's quite dangerous.  This is going to need to be addressed.  

posted by gut

So so so wish they would randomly list the candidates, and without the "D" or "R" designation.  The idiots would all cancel each other out.  I'd guess at least 70% of the country would have no idea who to vote for, especially down ballot.  Double bonus: you have to correctly match the POTUS and VP in order for your choice to count!

This would be great.  At least you would have to do some work to identify the candidates party affiliation.  Also imagine the mind fuck some poor schlub would have realizing they mistakenly cast a vote for the opposite party.

I have been voting on election day for 32 yrs.  As long as long as I am physically able it will remain that way.

posted by BR1986FB

Like I said, they need to all go to Florida's program. Arizona is a joke. Banana Republic countries are probably laughing at their inefficiency.

States need to solve this legislatively through their elected government.  Outside of that it does not end well.

When elections consistently are decided long after election day.  Beware. 

posted by QuakerOats

I believe Ron DeSantis would be nearly unbeatable.  

Never underestimate the democrat machine's ability to ruin a candidate.  Reagan was a once in a lifetime gift.  Trump was a puff of hot air that exposed a lot.  Thankfully some good was done that can not be easily reversed.

posted by Heretic

Big thing was probably simply that Rs overplayed their hand way too early due to Biden's age and weakness and let things like abortion, "don't say gay", etc. be rallying cries, as well as talks about social security cuts. Add into that how Trump's appeal among anyone that isn't pure MAGA seems to really be diminishing and a lot of candidates got weaker since they were so directly tied to him.

The guy specifically targeted with the "don't say gay" schtick had the best night.  I do agree with you on the MAGA fatigue.

This "democracy itself" is on the ballot seems to have some legs.  Look for future usage.

The democrat power brokers already have his minders in place.

posted by gut

But LOL at the media already branding Desantis as a "smarter Hitler".  That's quite the meteoric rise to go from basically nobody to history's greatest pyschopath in the course of a few years.

Once the media is assured Trump has no pulse they will be in full on kill Desantis mode.

posted by iclfan2

Yea, look at Fetterman in PA, had a stroke and legit can’t understand speech, lol but still might win. Wild

These are ideal candidates.  Controllable and managed by power brokers behind the scenes.  Look at Biden.  This is not new.  In my lifetime Strom Thurmond wheeled into the Senate looking like a literal corpse.  My grandpa looked better in his casket.  Ditto Robert Byrd.  Dianne Feinstein has lost her shit.  Chuck Grassley is like 89 and running for reelection.  I could go on.