On Mar 13, 2024:
posted by CenterBHSFanI'm waiting on Ptown to come and tell us that special investigator Hur is not a doctor and should not have took it upon himself to determine Biden's cognitive state in order to give him a free pass and therefore should have turned the whole thing over to be criminalized and prosecuted under the fullest extent of the law.
Did he say Biden had dementia?
I agree with a lot of the report and have said Biden is too old to run. However, I still think he is less a threat than Trump. That is where I diverge from a lot of posters on here.
On Feb 27, 2024:
Why? This just seems like a dumb money grab.
posted by geeblockWell they had to bring the national guard to the schools so my father could attend a decent school and there were riots when he attended college, my parents were married 9 months after interracial marriage was made legal in 1968, so yea I wouldn’t have to mention slavery. That argument about no one being alive when there were slaves has to be the top 10 dumbest arguments someone could make. Great job .
However the driving force behind much of the hatred was backed by religion which was more my point than anything having to do with my life but thanks for chiming in with something that wasn’t said.
The whole point had very little to do with slavery but the fact that religion all over the world was often used for man’s objectives. Weather we look at Israel/palestine, the crusades, nazis, manifest destiny or *gasp*slavery. I wasn’t alive for most of those but see how easy it is to reference something I wasn’t around for? Do better.
Slavery and racism aren't exactly the same as I think that is the disconnect.
You are combining the two.
I also think you are being too general about slavery and religion in the Constitution. The founding fathers were all over the place faith wise, but all agreed in some sort of higher power. See Jeffersons Bible as one example.
If you have to condemn religion for slavery you must also acknowledge it had a big hand in its defeat here. The anti-slavery movement of the 19th century was mostly driven by Christians and people from the north.
I get what you are saying, I think, but you are just combining a lot and making broad generalizations.
On Feb 26, 2024:
posted by CenterBHSFanWhat is worse:
Rhetoric or
Ongoing actions
Trump's actions by people that were in office before and what they plan on doing next.
Trump will surround himself with people that only agree with him. He will not appoint the traditional Republicans.
The blueprint is right there in Project 2025.
posted by justincredibleYeah, that's enough of this conversation for me. Enjoy your day.
I got ya Justin. I agree with you know the foundation of this country and the concept of a higher power or God.
The whole Christian National is taking one particular religious view and having it dominate over all others
That goes against what you are talking about.
David Fench had a good take on it today. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/25/opinion/christian-nationalism.html?smid=nytcore-android-share
posted by jmogI think it sets a difficult precedent for sure, especially for cost/liability insurance for IVF facilities.
That being said...
The left argument for abortion is that it is ALWAYS the mother's choice, basically her choice if its a human/person or not.
If you don't buy this, that the woman chooses if the fetus is a human or not. Understand that in most states the woman can choose to kill the fetus (abortion) but if she WANTS the child and someone assaults her and the fetus dies, the assailant can be charged with homicide or manslaughter of the fetus.
So when the mother wants the fetus, it is counted as a human/person, when the mother doesn't want it, then it is not a human person.
In this Alabama case, the mother wanted those embryos, the IVF place (accident or negligence) allowed for them to be destroyed. So its the mother's choice if they were human/persons or not right?
I know that sounds like an asinine argument, but that just follows the "pro-choice" logic to the end.
I agree that the IVF facility should be held liable given this circumstance.
However, your last few sentences is what worries me. The issues on where life begins and when it is viable are religious, moral, ethical, and scientific questions.
It is not a matter of government. I think many of here would agree with that. The last thing we want is one particular religious view dictating when life begins for all.
This is just my post from the other thread. Yes, I do think Biden is too old to run.
Stephen A. Voice, HOWEVER,
What Trump and his advisors are saying, to me, is far worse.
Trump, just in the last week, is in favor of a national abortion ban, against article 5 in NATO, in favor of mass detention facilities and deportation, and Christian Nationalism. (As in Christian laws tied to the Bible like the Bama IVF law, white Nationalist)
Sorry, that is an immediate no. No, to any of that and I'm sure many of the libertarians on here would be very against that amount of federal power. That is exactly what Trump is saying he and his advisors want to do.
You can try and bury your head in the sand and say oh that is just Trump being Trump, but his advisors will be in power and their rhetoric is absolutely terrible.
His advisors like Stephen Miller, the Project 2025 folks, and his religious advisors are the ones I listen to on what they plan on doing once he is in office.
That to me is far worse than the current situation we have now. That's my rational.
On Feb 21, 2024:
Yes, I do think Biden is too old to run.
Stephen A Voice, HOWEVER,
What Trump and his advisors are saying, to me, is far worse.
Trump, just in the last few days is in favor of a national abortion ban, against article 5 in NATO, in favor of mass detention facilities and deportation, and Christian Nationalism.
Sorry, that is an immediate no. No, to any of that and I'm sure many of the libertarians on here would be very against that amount of federal power. That is exactly what Trump is saying he and his advisors want to do.
You can try and bury your head in the sand and say oh that is just Trump being Trump, but his advisors will be in power and their rhetoric is absolutely terrible.
That to me is far worse than the current situation we have now. That's my rational.
posted by QuakerOats
The Religion of Radical Environmentalism is looking more dangerous than the Religion of Peace.
Thought for sure you were going post the latest on Hunter Biden and Biden impeachment.
Is there an update you can share?
Can we all agree, wtf Alabama on your embryo ruling? Total screws up IVF facilities.
On Feb 9, 2024:
posted by like_thatGridlock is always the way to go.
Gridlock does nothing to solve the debt, immigration, defense budget, or any other issue you seem to care about.
Old does not equal dementia.
Good see this board are still experts in dementia and practicing doctors on the subject.
One can say someone is too old to be President and not think they have dementia.
I know that blows some people's mind on here.
On Feb 8, 2024:
posted by AutomatikYou're way overthinking this.
Keep the following updated:
Headline
About
Experience
Skills
Open to (depending if looking or not)
The end.
Agreed. I use it to stay connected in the architecture, engineering, construction, economic development, and real estate world.
Some of it is pure marketing BS, but helps when trying to track down and stay connected with folks. It is all industry dependent.
On Jan 26, 2024:
posted by gutWhy do you keep defending Biden?
Not defending Biden at all.
I see him as the lesser of two evils if given a choice between the two.
posted by gutMaybe the libertarians don't believe in intimidating or shaming people into voting a certain way. Must be what makes them right wingers.
Maybe if they actually tried to work toward a political solution instead of complaining, they could be taken seriously.
posted by CenterBHSFanSpeaking of Trump, I heard today that the woman who sued him for sexual harassment (and won) is now suing him again because he continues to deny it
Defamation suit, which she won for $83M because as posters say on here Trump is an asshole and can't keep his mouth shut.
I highly doubt he pays because he will just appeal and appeal.
posted by CenterBHSFanIs this you and forgot what you just posted earlier or are you just trying to be a jackass towards me?
The posters that are more libertarian on here would say they are not Republicans.
So, I was referring to the parties.
On Jan 25, 2024:
Also, Trump trying to kill a Congressional deal on immigration and Ukraine/Israel funding is typical Trump.
Some Congressional Republicans are now likely to not approve any deal in immigration reform this year because it may help Biden.
I guess if it such an important issue, why not work to fix it now?
posted by CenterBHSFanToo many team players voting and not enough people willing to vote off-party.
If only the libertarians on here actually put their efforts toward findings those people instead of just complaining...
posted by jmog1. No pass at all, Trump is an asshole.
2. Trump didn’t concede. Hillary and the DNC claimed and made up for 3+ years that Trump stole the election, was illegitimate, and colluded with a foreign adversary to steel it. Thats not exactly conceding, that’s calling the election into question
3. Gore and DNC fought over hanging chads for nearly 2 months before conceding.
The point is that Trump didn’t start this “questioning election” BS. He may have made it worse, but truthfully his BS is just as bad as what they did to him in 2016-2019. It’s almost flip a coin
Obviously both way worse than the Gore/hanging chad scenario.
But come on ptown, pointing out flaws in someone else’s argument that Trump somehow was the one that started questioning elections is not even close to “giving Trump a pass”.
Trumps and asshole and has caused a shit ton of BS, even more so after he lost that during his presidency.
Thats the truth. But pointing out that Ds suck at times as well turns you into a “see, your a MAGA MORON like this whole board” even though all of us except QO can’t stand Trump.
There is not a single R I would vote Trump over.
I would vote RFK, Tulsi Gabbard (if she runs again), etc over Trump from the D side.
I would only vote for Trump over Biden and Harris. Can’t vote in 4 more years of dementia and Roomba walking around stages after a speech.
Our disagreement boils down to this.
You see everything that Trump as done and said as just the same as everything that Democrats have done or said. I see them as drastically different and what Trump did between election day and Jan 6 as far, far worse.
The fact you cannot see the difference is in fact giving him a pass.
You think this even though you are just flat wrong on your 2nd point. You are conflating and combining a lot of items just as Trump does using the same language. So while you may not like Trump, you have accepted and even using his own language and line of thinking.
You may not like him, but you are acting and thinking just like him. Congrats.
Trump was right. He could kill someone on 5th Avenue and you would still vote for him over Biden.