Covid-19 discussion, continued...

Automatik Senior Member
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Fri, Jun 5, 2020 2:38 PM
posted by BR1986FB

I'm really not looking forward to returning to my office. I'm going to make a pitch to be able to (at a minimum) work from home on Fridays.

I think increased flexibility for WFH will be the new norm and I'm all for it. WFH is great, but for this long me and my gf...it's a miracle we are still together.

I always thought I would love 100% WFH, I was wrong. I could do it if some travel was involved, I need to get the hell out of the house.

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Fri, Jun 5, 2020 5:26 PM
posted by Automatik

I think increased flexibility for WFH will be the new norm and I'm all for it. WFH is great, but for this long me and my gf...it's a miracle we are still together.

I always thought I would love 100% WFH, I was wrong. I could do it if some travel was involved, I need to get the hell out of the house.

My girlfriend wants to kill me. When I was at the office she was either babysitting grandkids or could stream Netflix to watch what she wanted on days off. Now, at least one of the parents of the grandkids is home and she can't watch Netflix because the streaming messes up my phone app that's connected to my computer. She's counting down the days until I go back.

sportchampps Senior Member
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Fri, Jun 5, 2020 5:39 PM

I hope my wife’s company goes full time WFH. In the last few weeks a lot of companies in her industry have. I can do my job anywhere so it would give us the ability to relocate. 
 

We would probably move to a suburb of Nashville ASAP if they make the announcement. 

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Sat, Jun 6, 2020 2:08 PM

Health Experts quote: “As public health advocates, we do not condemn these gatherings as risky for Covid 19 transmission... This should not be confused with a permissive stance on all gatherings, particularly protests against stay-home orders”. K, go fuck yourselves. 
 

In other news, Arizona seems to be popping off with new Corona cases. 

gut Senior Member
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Sat, Jun 6, 2020 4:13 PM
posted by iclfan2

In other news, Arizona seems to be popping off with new Corona cases. 

Hard to tell if increases aren't driven by more testing. Looking at deaths, which is as objective a measure as we have, it's still trending down.  But that lags by 4-5 weeks.

I think the last projection the "experts" made was 3000 deaths a day by June.  We're running about 1/3 of that.

gut Senior Member
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Sat, Jun 6, 2020 4:14 PM
posted by iclfan2

Health Experts quote: “As public health advocates, we do not condemn these gatherings as risky for Covid 19 transmission... This should not be confused with a permissive stance on all gatherings, particularly protests against stay-home orders”. K, go fuck yourselves.

 

Along those lines, I guess Covid-19 stopped being racist and decided to "take a knee" with the protestors.

Spock Senior Member
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Sat, Jun 6, 2020 5:38 PM

Sick of seeing numbers....let's add some context to this.  Are they young? Old? Symptomatic?  

 

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Mon, Jun 8, 2020 3:17 PM

The WHO has handled this horribly, so grain of salt, but this seems significant if true: "From the data we have, it still seems to be rare that an asymptomatic person actually transmits onward to a secondary individual," Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove, head of WHO's emerging diseases and zoonosis unit, said at a news briefing from the United Nations agency's Geneva headquarters. "It's very rare."

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/08/asymptomatic-coronavirus-patients-arent-spreading-new-infections-who-says.html

OSH Kosh B'Gosh
4,424 posts 18 reps Joined Nov 2009
Mon, Jun 8, 2020 3:23 PM
posted by iclfan2

The WHO has handled this horribly, so grain of salt, but this seems significant if true: "From the data we have, it still seems to be rare that an asymptomatic person actually transmits onward to a secondary individual," Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove, head of WHO's emerging diseases and zoonosis unit, said at a news briefing from the United Nations agency's Geneva headquarters. "It's very rare."

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/08/asymptomatic-coronavirus-patients-arent-spreading-new-infections-who-says.html

A lot of people silent on this news. I still can't believe how many people are out there claiming how deadly this virus is and will continue to be. Some calling for extending the lockdown or even another lockdown because of a second wave.

SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Mon, Jun 8, 2020 4:35 PM
posted by iclfan2

The WHO has handled this horribly, so grain of salt, but this seems significant if true: "From the data we have, it still seems to be rare that an asymptomatic person actually transmits onward to a secondary individual," Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove, head of WHO's emerging diseases and zoonosis unit, said at a news briefing from the United Nations agency's Geneva headquarters. "It's very rare."

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/08/asymptomatic-coronavirus-patients-arent-spreading-new-infections-who-says.html

That’s very good news

Think that fear was the most scary of all this (asymptomstic spreading it)

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Mon, Jun 8, 2020 5:56 PM
posted by OSH

A lot of people silent on this news. I still can't believe how many people are out there claiming how deadly this virus is and will continue to be. Some calling for extending the lockdown or even another lockdown because of a second wave.

The lockdown was shown to be a complete overreaction by week 2.  There was nothing to justify it beyond that, except that the people who enacted it had too much ego involved to reverse course. 

gut Senior Member
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Mon, Jun 8, 2020 7:32 PM
posted by OSH

A lot of people silent on this news. I still can't believe how many people are out there claiming how deadly this virus is and will continue to be. Some calling for extending the lockdown or even another lockdown because of a second wave.

That's not a surprise - as the news on this gets better, the issue has become more political driven (until it got upstaged).

It kind of makes sense for people questioning how effective the lockdowns were.  So it would have done little, except to spread it to your family members who probably would have gotten it from you, anyway.

Of course, the problem will continue to be people recognizing symptoms and taking steps to isolate themselves.  Or simply ignoring symptoms and failing to take precautions because they're selfish assholes.

Look for this news to get VERY politicized in the coming days.  People on the right are going to argue this supports ending all restrictions and measures now.  While people on the left will insist everything needs to persevere until we reach completely unrealistic goals of testing and contact tracing.

kizer permanente Senior Member
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Mon, Jun 8, 2020 8:48 PM

It got Dick Goddard 

friendfromlowry Senior Member
7,778 posts 87 reps Joined Nov 2009
Mon, Jun 8, 2020 9:58 PM
posted by gut

Look for this news to get VERY politicized in the coming days.  People on the right are going to argue this supports ending all restrictions and measures now.  While people on the left will insist everything needs to persevere until we reach completely unrealistic goals of testing and contact tracing.

I feel like it's already been this way for weeks. People on Reddit have been fucking insufferable about it. 

DeWine: Gonna open up restaurants next week
Redditor: (with 196 upvotes) Well here comes the second wave of death good luck to hospitals keeping up!! 

SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Tue, Jun 9, 2020 12:00 AM
posted by friendfromlowry

I feel like it's already been this way for weeks. People on Reddit have been fucking insufferable about it. 

DeWine: Gonna open up restaurants next week
Redditor: (with 196 upvotes) Well here comes the second wave of death good luck to hospitals keeping up!! 

Reddit is an absolute cesspool of liberal garbage. I used to love that site. Everything is so political and left-wing, really ruined it for me. 
 

 

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Tue, Jun 9, 2020 8:55 AM
posted by SportsAndLady

Reddit is an absolute cesspool of liberal garbage. I used to love that site. Everything is so political and left-wing, really ruined it for me. 

Can confirm.

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Tue, Jun 9, 2020 10:16 AM
posted by friendfromlowry

I feel like it's already been this way for weeks. People on Reddit have been fucking insufferable about it. 

DeWine: Gonna open up restaurants next week
Redditor: (with 196 upvotes) Well here comes the second wave of death good luck to hospitals keeping up!! 

I used to enjoy reddit for for some of the humorous or cool stuff I'd find there.  But I had to delete it for stuff like this.  It was after the "Florida Morons" movement - when they reopened the beaches in FLA and redditers by the thousands claimed that those who went to the beaches had signed their own death certificates.  I think so far, the number of early beachgoers who've died of COVID is hovering right around zero.  

thavoice Senior Member
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Tue, Jun 9, 2020 11:52 AM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

The lockdown was shown to be a complete overreaction by week 2.  There was nothing to justify it beyond that, except that the people who enacted it had too much ego involved to reverse course. 

..but over 100k Ohioans had it in March, and by April there was going to be 10k new cases PER DAY in Ohio.

 

OSH Kosh B'Gosh
4,424 posts 18 reps Joined Nov 2009
Tue, Jun 9, 2020 12:21 PM

Anyone see this news?

The study, by researchers from Harvard medical school, Boston University of Public Health and Boston children’s hospital, looked at images captured between January 2018 and April 2020 and found a “steep increase” in vehicle counts starting in August 2019 and peaking in December 2019. Between September and October, five of the six hospitals observed had their highest daily volume of cars in the period analysed.

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
3,345 posts 36 reps Joined Oct 2010
Tue, Jun 9, 2020 1:19 PM
posted by thavoice

..but over 100k Ohioans had it in March, and by April there was going to be 10k new cases PER DAY in Ohio.

 

They gave themselves the ultimate out - "if we're accused of oveerreacting, then we know we did our job successfully".  Instead, they could have said, "Imperfect information led us to error on the side of caution and shut things down for a couple of weeks.  Once we realized hospitals weren't going to be overwhelmed (not even close), we decided to adjust our strategy."  In reality, all they've done is keep doubling down.  Crazy.

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