Controversial opinions

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
7,259 posts 55 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Feb 16, 2018 6:19 AM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

The federal government should have a standing offer of $5,000 to any man or woman who wishes to either have a vasectomy or their tubes tied.  The government pays for the procedure and the person gets a check for the 5k.  You can only get it once; you must be 18 and cannot be older than 30.  Just a thought. 

Why cannot be older than 30?

Why not just pay for the procedure instead of a cash payout? 

 

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
3,345 posts 36 reps Joined Oct 2010
Fri, Feb 16, 2018 8:25 AM
posted by CenterBHSFan

Why cannot be older than 30?

Why not just pay for the procedure instead of a cash payout? 

 

You pay an incentive so that you entice people who will likely be bad parents, thus eliminating that outcome. You have an age cutoff so that someone can’t have 8 kids with 8 fathers, but then go in to get the procedure when they’re 42 and not likely to get pregnant again. Or some guy who’s 55 for the same reason. 18-30 seems to cover the lion’s share of problematic parents. 

Verbal Kint Senior Member
1,062 posts 16 reps Joined Jul 2017
Fri, Feb 16, 2018 10:06 AM

Both the EPA and FDA have 0% credibility

Ironman92 Administrator
56,729 posts 168 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Feb 16, 2018 10:25 AM

Elementary school drug programs do more harm than good

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
29,228 posts 321 reps Joined Apr 2010
Fri, Feb 16, 2018 10:49 AM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

The federal government should have a standing offer of $5,000 to any man or woman who wishes to either have a vasectomy or their tubes tied.  The government pays for the procedure and the person gets a check for the 5k.  You can only get it once; you must be 18 and cannot be older than 30.  Just a thought. 

A girl runs a non profit doing something similar http://www.projectprevention.org/.

FatHobbit Senior Member
9,058 posts 68 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Feb 16, 2018 5:48 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

The federal government should have a standing offer of $5,000 to any man or woman who wishes to either have a vasectomy or their tubes tied.  The government pays for the procedure and the person gets a check for the 5k.  You can only get it once; you must be 18 and cannot be older than 30.  Just a thought. 

Personally i think we need everyone to have some kind of temporary birth control that can only be removed when they have passed a test and are ready to be parents. Too many people spitting out babies that aren't ready. 

Spock Senior Member
5,271 posts 9 reps Joined Jul 2013
Fri, Feb 16, 2018 5:54 PM
posted by Ironman92

Elementary school drug programs do more harm than good

DARE programs were proven to not work years ago

gut Senior Member
18,369 posts 117 reps Joined Nov 2009
Sat, Feb 17, 2018 11:24 AM
posted by FatHobbit

Personally i think we need everyone to have some kind of temporary birth control that can only be removed when they have passed a test and are ready to be parents. Too many people spitting out babies that aren't ready. 

Drug and IQ test in order to vote and procreate.

Belly35 Elderly Intellectual
10,015 posts 56 reps Joined Nov 2009
Sun, Feb 18, 2018 7:27 AM

Three felons coventions and your ducks are tied.... No babies for you.......

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
29,228 posts 321 reps Joined Apr 2010
Mon, Feb 26, 2018 10:47 AM

Not sure if these have been said:

-If you are poor and can't afford a kid(s), then you shouldn't have on.

-Those able bodied on welfare should have to work for their welfare.  A minimum of 30 hours/week community service.  I might have already said this one.

-The majority of good intention laws are bullshit.

-Any private business should be able to deny service to anyone for any reason.

-Title IX is trash.

-The ACLU is trash.

-Affirmative Action is trash in this modern age.

-Min wage should be $0.

Ironman92 Administrator
56,729 posts 168 reps Joined Nov 2009
Mon, Feb 26, 2018 11:04 AM
posted by like_that

Not sure if these have been said:

-If you are poor and can't afford a kid(s), then you shouldn't have on.

-Those able bodied on welfare should have to work for their welfare.  A minimum of 30 hours/week community service.  I might have already said this one.

-The majority of good intention laws are bullshit.

-Any private business should be able to deny service to anyone for any reason.

-Title IX is trash.

-The ACLU is trash.

-Affirmative Action is trash in this modern age.

-Min wage should be $0.

Not completely on board with the last one but all others are on point for me

jmog Senior Member
7,737 posts 52 reps Joined Nov 2009
Mon, Feb 26, 2018 1:29 PM
posted by like_that

Not sure if these have been said:

-If you are poor and can't afford a kid(s), then you shouldn't have on.

-Those able bodied on welfare should have to work for their welfare.  A minimum of 30 hours/week community service.  I might have already said this one.

-The majority of good intention laws are bullshit.

-Any private business should be able to deny service to anyone for any reason.

-Title IX is trash.

-The ACLU is trash.

-Affirmative Action is trash in this modern age.

-Min wage should be $0.

I am not 100% "good" with all of these, but have similar feelings on all. The two "biggest" issues I would have is the poor and kids and the minimum wage being $0.

 

I don't think people should have kids if they can't afford them, but don't think any given "law" should be enacted to enforce this.

I do believe the market should determine wages, but not sure $0 is the right final answer (some compromise should be made).

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
29,228 posts 321 reps Joined Apr 2010
Mon, Feb 26, 2018 1:49 PM
posted by jmog

I am not 100% "good" with all of these, but have similar feelings on all. The two "biggest" issues I would have is the poor and kids and the minimum wage being $0.

 

I don't think people should have kids if they can't afford them, but don't think any given "law" should be enacted to enforce this.

I do believe the market should determine wages, but not sure $0 is the right final answer (some compromise should be made).

Well to clarify, I didn't mean it in the sense of passing a law to prevent it. 

What would be your compromise with min wage if you have one?

justincredible Honorable Admin
37,969 posts 250 reps Joined Nov 2009
Mon, Feb 26, 2018 1:50 PM

The true minimum wage is $0 (unemployed). Minimum wage laws provide barriers to enter the workforce for our least skilled workers. If someone only provides $5/hr worth of value, and the minimum wage is $10/hr, guess who isn't going to have a job for very long? It's illegal to provide a job to someone who only creates $5/hr worth of value, even if both parties agree to it.

Let states/cities set their own, but the Federal minimum wage should be $0.

OSH Kosh B'Gosh
4,424 posts 18 reps Joined Nov 2009
Mon, Feb 26, 2018 2:54 PM

College athletes shouldn't be paid. They should have the ability to acquire sponsorship, endorsements, etc. just like any Olympic athlete does.

The only "reason" I'd excuse college athletes getting paid is to make-up for their inability to work a part-time job while they commit to a sport for 20+ hours a week. I especially believe this in D3 athletics where there's no athletic scholarship involved. No one markets D3 schools more than what the athletes do. 

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
7,259 posts 55 reps Joined Nov 2009
Mon, Feb 26, 2018 3:01 PM
posted by like_that

-Title IX is trash.

-The ACLU is trash.

 

Did Title IX get revoked or is the Trump administration working on it?  Either way, I agree with you on it.

The ADL (these people are afraid of every number and possible hand gesture - not the least of some words like "peckerwood" and "peni" and mythological things like Thor's Hammer) and SLPC is also trash.

Spock Senior Member
5,271 posts 9 reps Joined Jul 2013
Mon, Feb 26, 2018 8:59 PM
posted by OSH

College athletes shouldn't be paid. They should have the ability to acquire sponsorship, endorsements, etc. just like any Olympic athlete does.

The only "reason" I'd excuse college athletes getting paid is to make-up for their inability to work a part-time job while they commit to a sport for 20+ hours a week. I especially believe this in D3 athletics where there's no athletic scholarship involved. No one markets D3 schools more than what the athletes do. 

Athletes shouldnt be paid.  They should be allowed to make a % of the revenue a school makes while they are there.  When they graduate they get the money.  If they go one and done they dont get any of it and they have to pay back their scholly

Trueblue23 BASEDgod
7,504 posts 19 reps Joined Nov 2009
Mon, Feb 26, 2018 11:31 PM

We should privatize the organ donation market and give incentives ($$) to donate.

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
29,228 posts 321 reps Joined Apr 2010
Tue, Feb 27, 2018 7:07 AM
posted by CenterBHSFan

 

Did Title IX get revoked or is the Trump administration working on it?  Either way, I agree with you on it.

 

No, but it should.

wkfan Senior Member
1,850 posts 13 reps Joined Nov 2009
Tue, Feb 27, 2018 7:58 AM
posted by Spock

Athletes shouldnt be paid.  They should be allowed to make a % of the revenue a school makes while they are there.  When they graduate they get the money.  If they go one and done they dont get any of it and they have to pay back their scholly

If this were to happen, D1 schools need top abolish the free ride scholarships for athletes.  If they are getting paid to play, they can pay their own way.

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