2020 Presidential Election thread

posted by jmog

The conservatives are still waiting for the left to give Trump a “shot”. It’s only been 4 years. 

While lefty twitter and crazy liberals yeah never gave Trump a shot, I think a wide majority of the country did after the election. He then screwed it shortly after taking office with the Muslim Ban and his conduct on twitter. Trump was never able to grow his base or his support above 47% of the country. 

I don't think it is a wrong approach for us all to give Biden a shot out of the gate. If he reverts to the typical liberal policies that republicans dislike, then so be it. Conservatries can go back to their corners.

I think your other post is right on. It seems like most of the country in those swing states ticket split. People want anyone but Trump, yet a divided government. We likely got it. 

I’ve been disconnected the past few days aside from knowing when the election was called.

Catching up on everything now. 

The Four Seasons Landscaping debacle is goddamn amazing. 

posted by ptown_trojans_1

While lefty twitter and crazy liberals yeah never gave Trump a shot, I think a wide majority of the country did after the election. He then screwed it shortly after taking office with the Muslim Ban and his conduct on twitter. Trump was never able to grow his base or his support above 47% of the country. 

I don't think it is a wrong approach for us all to give Biden a shot out of the gate. If he reverts to the typical liberal policies that republicans dislike, then so be it. Conservatries can go back to their corners.

I think your other post is right on. It seems like most of the country in those swing states ticket split. People want anyone but Trump, yet a divided government. We likely got it. 

Good post. 

posted by Automatik

The Four Seasons Landscaping debacle is goddamn amazing. 

posted by ptown_trojans_1

While lefty twitter and crazy liberals yeah never gave Trump a shot, I think a wide majority of the country did after the election. He then screwed it shortly after taking office with the Muslim Ban and his conduct on twitter. Trump was never able to grow his base or his support above 47% of the country. 

I don't think it is a wrong approach for us all to give Biden a shot out of the gate. If he reverts to the typical liberal policies that republicans dislike, then so be it. Conservatries can go back to their corners.

I think your other post is right on. It seems like most of the country in those swing states ticket split. People want anyone but Trump, yet a divided government. We likely got it. 

You can't be serious ptown...

3.5 years of Russia Russia Russia was NOT the twitter brigade, it was MSM and the democrats IN CONGRESS.

anyone see real clear politics has moved Arizona Pennsylvania and Georgia back to to close to call and yahoo has moved Georgia back to to close to call. 

posted by sportchampps

anyone see real clear politics has moved Arizona Pennsylvania and Georgia back to to close to call and yahoo has moved Georgia back to to close to call. 

I feel I could’ve sorted and counted all the votes myself and had it done by Thur

Here's the thing: the reason there's a thing called @FiveThirtyEight is because 538 was the margin in FL when the Republican SCOTUS reversed the 2000 election during a recount, making Dubya the president. That's the kind of margin where races can flip. That's not what's up now.

— Joy WE VOTED!! WEAR A MASK!! Reid 😷) (@JoyAnnReid) November 10, 2020

posted by CenterBHSFan

Here's the thing: the reason there's a thing called @FiveThirtyEight is because 538 was the margin in FL when the Republican SCOTUS reversed the 2000 election during a recount, making Dubya the president. That's the kind of margin where races can flip. That's not what's up now.

— Joy WE VOTED!! WEAR A MASK!! Reid 😷) (@JoyAnnReid) November 10, 2020

Um...538 is the total number of EC votes and why you need 270 to win.

That lady is clueless especially on what happened in 2000. 

posted by sportchampps

anyone see real clear politics has moved Arizona Pennsylvania and Georgia back to to close to call and yahoo has moved Georgia back to to close to call. 

I believe RCP never called PA. 

posted by like_that

I believe RCP never called PA. 

This could be bad.  There's just no way they're ever proving widespread voter fraud that could even be argued to overcome a 50-100k deficit.  I'm guessing their hope is to come up with a variety of anecdotal evidence and then argue there's no way to know how many votes were affected....so we need a run-off.

The late arriving ballots were apparently nowhere near enough to offset that deficit.  We really, really wouldn't want to throw out otherwise legal ballots simply because they came a few hours (or even a few days) late.

I think one of the lawyers said this weekend we'd see evidence [yesterday] after they filed.  Still waiting on that evidence...

Unity and Healing!

And no, there is no way there is enough fraud to prove anything material. At this point it is just a witch hunt to prove any. It’s still annoying that it’s 2020 and this is the dumbass way we count votes. 

posted by iclfan2

Unity and Healing!

And no, there is no way there is enough fraud to prove anything material. At this point it is just a witch hunt to prove any. It’s still annoying that it’s 2020 and this is the dumbass way we count votes. 

Personally, it’s the best way. I want every vote to be cast in paper, so there is a trail. 

posted by Laley23

Personally, it’s the best way. I want every vote to be cast in paper, so there is a trail.

That went swimmingly back in 2000.

I agree, though, because one computer glitch could cause mass chaos.  Imagine a Presidential run-off because a state lost 100k votes and there was no other way to certify the winner.

posted by ptown_trojans_1

While lefty twitter and crazy liberals yeah never gave Trump a shot, I think a wide majority of the country did after the election. He then screwed it shortly after taking office with the Muslim Ban and his conduct on twitter. Trump was never able to grow his base or his support above 47% of the country. 

I don't think it is a wrong approach for us all to give Biden a shot out of the gate. If he reverts to the typical liberal policies that republicans dislike, then so be it. Conservatries can go back to their corners.

I think your other post is right on. It seems like most of the country in those swing states ticket split. People want anyone but Trump, yet a divided government. We likely got it. 

Not to put too fine of a point in this but calling it a Muslim ban shows that you're a lying hack.  Have a nice day. 

posted by superman

Not to put too fine of a point in this but calling it a Muslim ban shows that you're a lying hack.  Have a nice day. 

I wasn’t going to call him out on that point but you are not wrong.

posted by jmog

I wasn’t going to call him out on that point but you are not wrong.

I'd say he's also not right.  We can't know it was actually a racist motivation/intention, but the justification was pretty weak and indeed the courts found it was without merit.

Sort of like the border wall.  In theory, it's a vulnerability.  But like a lot of things Trump said, there's really not actual evidence of it.

Also, how hilarious would it be if Trump got $100M book deal (seriously?!?), and the IRS seized the proceeds to pay his past-due taxes and fines?

posted by gut

I'd say he's also not right.  We can't know it was actually a racist motivation/intention, but the justification was pretty weak and indeed the courts found it was without merit.

Sort of like the border wall.  In theory, it's a vulnerability.  But like a lot of things Trump said, there's really not actual evidence of it.

The ban was from countries that the Obama admin had listed as terrorist havens. It did not ban Muslims like ptown’s naming it suggests.

Calling it a Muslim ban is the part that is a lie, as Muslims were still allowed in the country.  Those handful of countries just were not.

posted by jmog

Calling it a Muslim ban is the part that is a lie, as Muslims were still allowed in the country.  Those handful of countries just were not.