United Healthcare CEO killed

sportchampps

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Tue, Dec 10, 2024 11:47 AM

Three things. I do work on the business side of doctors offices and for more then one specialty.


1) Prior Authorizations are easy to get granted. The problem is 90% of the people I have worked with in these offices don’t take the time to do them correctly or wait way to long to do them because they feel like they are wasting time. I probably get 98% of mine thru on the first time.

2) Insurances change their policies and the language in the policy every year. They literally make it almost impossible to figure out what they are saying is covered is not covered and when it is covered. The employees in their call center helping providers are even more clueless. Your only chance is to try it and find out. They need real people to write these policies and not lawyers.

3) Pharmacies often give you the wrong information about cost and if your prescription has been approved or sent for approval. When I was in Mental Health I had patients who needed their prescriptions ASAP and the number of times they lost or mishandled the scripts were insane. 

Dr Winston O'Boogie

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Tue, Dec 10, 2024 1:01 PM

We obviously have a hopelessly broken system.  Say what you want about Obamacare, but it was an attempt at addressing this.  It’s not presented a significant change, but it’s more than any other politician has successfully done.  Outside of national security, this is our number one problem in my book.  Cliches about us “having the finest healthcare system in the world” ring more and more hollow every year.


This doesn’t justify a murder, that isn’t my stance at all.  I think health insurers are a huge part of the problem, but not the only part.

jmog

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Tue, Dec 10, 2024 2:37 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

We obviously have a hopelessly broken system.  Say what you want about Obamacare, but it was an attempt at addressing this.  It’s not presented a significant change, but it’s more than any other politician has successfully done.  Outside of national security, this is our number one problem in my book.  Cliches about us “having the finest healthcare system in the world” ring more and more hollow every year.


This doesn’t justify a murder, that isn’t my stance at all.  I think health insurers are a huge part of the problem, but not the only part.

To be fair Obamacare did nothing but make it worse and the insurance companies more $$.


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Dr Winston O'Boogie

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Tue, Dec 10, 2024 3:16 PM
posted by jmog

To be fair Obamacare did nothing but make it worse and the insurance companies more $$.


Obamacare also gained access to insurance coverage (albeit shitty quality) many people could not previously get.  As I said, Obamacare is not a solution by any stretch of the imagination.  I give it credit only for being the first major attempt at reform.  It is insignificant compared to what is ultimately needed.

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Ironman92

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Tue, Dec 10, 2024 3:48 PM

Also….many teachers are hesitating to retire because the insurance is more than 5x higher after you retire

That makes good sense. Keep the old bitter teachers around and they’ll be even more bitter.

j_crazy

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Tue, Dec 10, 2024 4:47 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Obamacare also gained access to insurance coverage (albeit shitty quality) many people could not previously get.  As I said, Obamacare is not a solution by any stretch of the imagination.  I give it credit only for being the first major attempt at reform.  It is insignificant compared to what is ultimately needed.

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Obamacare on the whole is trash. But, my son would have been uninsurable if not for the elimination of the lifetime maximum benefit. His heart troubles and ultimate open heart surgery that he had when he was 5 weeks old cost a total of $1.34million. So after 5 weeks of life, he was over the $1million maximum most plans employed before the ACA. So, for as much as I hate it, there was some good in Obamacare. Crazy to think that he's now a fit, healthy teenager with no long term medical needs but would be uninsurable. 

Laley23

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Tue, Dec 10, 2024 5:09 PM

It saved my life (financially, not figuratively...though maybe if I couldnt have afforded the medicine). 

I was an independent contractor and not insured thru work. My plan was decent, but then I got diagnosed with Ankylosing Spondylitis after about 1-1.5 yrs of wasting money on treatments for "back pain". The shot (Humira/Enbrel) to keep the disease at bay was like $11k per month for me. Got on my parents insurance once ACA went into effect (I was eligible as a 25 year old not yet 28). It lowered the cost to $30 per month, and also qualified my for some sort of assistance card that knocked it down to $5...

QuakerOats

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Tue, Dec 10, 2024 6:04 PM

x know more about healthcare ceo assassin than one nearly started civil war 4 months ago

Dr Winston O'Boogie

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Wed, Dec 11, 2024 7:54 AM
posted by majorspark

He is a left wing nutjob.  The product of an elite education.

I don’t think this is accurate.  He appears to have plenty of opinions considered right wing.  


majorspark

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Wed, Dec 11, 2024 4:07 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

I don’t think this is accurate.  He appears to have plenty of opinions considered right wing.  


Fine.  When I read things like anti-capitalist, sympathizers more on the left, shouting "lived experience" among other things my radar points left... I have the sense the guy has some guilt about his privileged upbringing.  From what I have read he has not always felt this way.  Just my instincts.  

CenterBHSFan

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Wed, Dec 11, 2024 4:44 PM

The guy is nuts. Psychopathy.

Dr Winston O'Boogie

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Thu, Dec 12, 2024 9:25 AM
posted by majorspark

Fine.  When I read things like anti-capitalist, sympathizers more on the left, shouting "lived experience" among other things my radar points left... I have the sense the guy has some guilt about his privileged upbringing.  From what I have read he has not always felt this way.  Just my instincts.  

You may be right.  It just seems like his political views are all over the board.  He appears to have gone off the rails during the last 6-12 months.



geeblock

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Thu, Dec 12, 2024 9:38 AM

not sure if its true, but someone quoted as a former roomate said he no longer could have sex because of nerve damage in his spine.  I could see where that would make someone go off the rails.

BRF

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Sat, Dec 14, 2024 10:31 AM

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gut

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Sat, Dec 14, 2024 11:30 AM

The vile rhetoric from the usual idiots is unsurprising.  Showing, once again, they are just fine with violence [including, apparently, murder] if they approve of the intent.

Inevitably the "class warfare" was going to result in real warfare.  The more you see just how batshit crazy the left is the more you understand why Trump got elected.