Covid-19 discussion, continued...

Trimmer36 Junior Member
25 posts 5 reps Joined Nov 2010
Sat, Nov 21, 2020 8:14 AM
posted by Fletch

Giving Cuomo the Emmy is on par with giving Sadaam the peace prize

On par with Rush Limbaugh receiving the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
3,345 posts 23 reps Joined Oct 2010
Sat, Nov 21, 2020 8:31 AM
posted by Fletch

Giving Cuomo the Emmy is on par with giving Sadaam the peace prize

Holy crap. Is this what right wingers are saying?

Spock Senior Member
5,271 posts 8 reps Joined Jul 2013
Sun, Nov 22, 2020 9:27 AM
posted by Trimmer36

On par with Rush Limbaugh receiving the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

And Obama getting the Peace prize before he did anything


Dont forget Obama giving Biden that same award.

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
9,465 posts 79 reps Joined Nov 2009
Mon, Nov 23, 2020 9:46 AM

Good news. Third vaccine should be effective enough.


https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/23/oxford-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-is-70percent-effective-trial-shows-.html

Automatik Senior Member
15,737 posts 93 reps Joined Nov 2009
Mon, Nov 23, 2020 9:52 AM

Fuck it, give me all 3.

Fletch Member
0 posts 0 reps Joined Nov 2020
Mon, Nov 23, 2020 10:46 AM
posted by iclfan2

Good news. Third vaccine should be effective enough.


https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/23/oxford-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-is-70percent-effective-trial-shows-.html

Let China have the is ine


jmog Senior Member
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Mon, Nov 23, 2020 10:54 AM
posted by kizer permanente

https://www.wkbn.com/news/coronavirus/its-the-moment-to-act-nearly-1000-cleveland-clinic-caregivers-out-due-to-coronavirus/?fbclid=IwAR149YfISay0oyEsMnVep2LeH4K0EyPPamKTTcINOkfdP9rhk8iX6jLOBcc



Cue QQ telling us everything is cool. 

Would be pertinent information to know how many of those 1000 were due to being positive vs how many are due to having to quarantine for 10-14 days due to contact tracing (coming in contact with someone who was positive or thought to be positive).


Not good news either way but would have been good relevant information.


kizer permanente Senior Member
1,309 posts 14 reps Joined Aug 2017
Mon, Nov 23, 2020 11:23 AM
posted by iclfan2

Good news. Third vaccine should be effective enough.


https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/23/oxford-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-is-70percent-effective-trial-shows-.html

Looks like if they do the half dose then full dose, it’s as effective as the other 2  


QuakerOats Senior Member
11,701 posts 53 reps Joined Nov 2009
Mon, Nov 23, 2020 12:07 PM
posted by jmog

Would be pertinent information to know how many of those 1000 were due to being positive vs how many are due to having to quarantine for 10-14 days due to contact tracing (coming in contact with someone who was positive or thought to be positive).


Not good news either way but would have been good relevant information.



Yes ...context matters, GREATLY. 


They have 51,000 employees , so 1.9% being affected in an urban area is not really anything special.

kizer permanente Senior Member
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Mon, Nov 23, 2020 1:00 PM
posted by QuakerOats


Yes ...context matters, GREATLY. 


They have 51,000 employees , so 1.9% being affected in an urban area is not really anything special.

Then take your own advice and apply context. Like how many of their 51,000 employees can work on covid floors and how many that can are part of the 1000 off sick right now.
Obviously to make a public address it's worse than "1.9% bEiNg AfFeCtEd Is NoT rEaLlY aNyThInG sPeCiAl".

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
3,345 posts 23 reps Joined Oct 2010
Mon, Nov 23, 2020 1:28 PM
posted by QuakerOats


Yes ...context matters, GREATLY. 


They have 51,000 employees , so 1.9% being affected in an urban area is not really anything special.

Yes it is because they're hospital workers and probably got it from the same source. 

QuakerOats Senior Member
11,701 posts 53 reps Joined Nov 2009
Mon, Nov 23, 2020 1:45 PM
posted by kizer permanente

Then take your own advice and apply context. Like how many of their 51,000 employees can work on covid floors and how many that can are part of the 1000 off sick right now.
Obviously to make a public address it's worse than "1.9% bEiNg AfFeCtEd Is NoT rEaLlY aNyThInG sPeCiAl".



Their own spokesperson said it is not a real issue yet. 


That does not mean it couldn't be at some point, but when the panic promoters simply say that over 1,000 Cleveland Clinic employees are out due to covid it makes it sound like the end of the world, without the context.

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
3,345 posts 23 reps Joined Oct 2010
Mon, Nov 23, 2020 1:57 PM
posted by QuakerOats



Their own spokesperson said it is not a real issue yet. 


That does not mean it couldn't be at some point, but when the panic promoters simply say that over 1,000 Cleveland Clinic employees are out due to covid it makes it sound like the end of the world, without the context.

If you had a loved one at the Clinic, you'd be concerned. 

sportchampps Senior Member
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Mon, Nov 23, 2020 4:19 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

If you had a loved one at the Clinic, you'd be concerned. 

I’m going to say most work places have Atleast 2% of their workforce out because of covid. 


sportchampps Senior Member
7,527 posts 31 reps Joined Nov 2009
Mon, Nov 23, 2020 4:21 PM

My vaccine trial date was pushed back until the second week of December. Reading that the AZ one is only 70% effective I may just opt out and wait for the other vaccines. If it’s only 70% effective and I only have a 66% chance of getting it I’m not sure it’s worth the risk. 

kizer permanente Senior Member
1,309 posts 14 reps Joined Aug 2017
Mon, Nov 23, 2020 4:40 PM
posted by sportchampps

My vaccine trial date was pushed back until the second week of December. Reading that the AZ one is only 70% effective I may just opt out and wait for the other vaccines. If it’s only 70% effective and I only have a 66% chance of getting it I’m not sure it’s worth the risk. 

Nah....It depends how its dosed. 

When given a half dose then a full dose a month later it was 90% effective. When given 2 full doses it was only 62% effective,

sportchampps Senior Member
7,527 posts 31 reps Joined Nov 2009
Mon, Nov 23, 2020 4:42 PM

Hmm I wonder if they can tell me which of those 2 dose schedules I would get if it’s not thenplacebo

Ironman92 Administrator
56,729 posts 140 reps Joined Nov 2009
Mon, Nov 23, 2020 5:25 PM

Ross County Health Dept trying to shut down all sports for the 8 local school districts but continuing school? Backlash is strong right now.

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