O-Trap

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On Sep 14, 2019:

  • O-Trap repped a post in "Impressed by the Trump administration part II" at 09:39 pm
  • posted by geeblock

    Trickle down economics as far as I can tell is free beer tomorrow... we have the middle class actually stumping for the top 1% as if they have some connection to them all so some poor person can’t get some cheese and milk while they continue to ship jobs overseas which will never change and they tell you hey well next year we will look into it 

    If that was directed at me, then I'm confused as to where you think I was stumping for the 1%.

    Also, TAXES trickle down.  Just ask the Democrats about Trump's tariffs.

  • O-Trap replied to "Impressed by the Trump administration part II" at 07:47 pm
  • posted by geeblock

    Trickle down economics as far as I can tell is free beer tomorrow... we have the middle class actually stumping for the top 1% as if they have some connection to them all so some poor person can’t get some cheese and milk while they continue to ship jobs overseas which will never change and they tell you hey well next year we will look into it 

    There's a flaw baked into this idea.  It's within this line:
    "[...] we have the middle class actually stumping for the top 1% as if they had some connection to them."

    This assumes that the only reason those in the middle class would ever side with the top 1% is because they identify with them.  It precludes any notion that it's because those people believe that their position is ethically and philosophically more reasonable.

    Worth noting: I know very few, if any, who are in lock step with billionaires on everything.  Plenty who oppose tax increases on the wealthy, for example, also oppose those same wealthy individuals using their money to influence legislation.

  • O-Trap replied to "Impressed by the Trump administration part II" at 01:28 pm
  • posted by geeblock

    They have you convinced that it’s poor people keeping you poor. Social programs not including Medicare cost u 100$ to 150$ a year. Eliminating them completely will do nothing to change your life. In fact helping people eat will reduce medical costs. It interesting you ignore where most of your money goes, (military/pentagon) even though our military is the size of the next 7 or 8 countries combined. Or the fact that corporations aren’t paying there share for example amazon/Walmart. But rather focus on the narrative that there is a person  in welfare selling their food stamps to get high or driving around in a Escalade with an iPhone. If u actually look at the data, of the 13 states who tested participants, less than 1% tested positive for drugs and it was a huge waste of money. Just my two cents 

    I agree with about 80% of this, honestly.

    I didn't realize that there were 13 states that had studied it, but I do remember that it ended up costing taxpayers more in Florida with testing than it did without, and yeah, it was under 1%.

    I also agree that the amount we spend on the military is absurd.  Sure, it means that we've become virtually indestructible from the outside, but if we weren't so involved in other nations, that would be even less necessary than it is now (and it's already not necessary now).

    Made me think of this:
     


    My contention is the notion of corporate taxes.  This term ... "share" or "fair share" ... keeps getting thrown around.  I still have yet to hear a logical argument to adequately articulate what a fair share would actually be.  Granted, this isn't limited to corporate taxes.  The same applies to personal income taxes as well.  Shoot, basically all taxes.

On Sep 13, 2019:

  • O-Trap replied to "Impressed by the Trump administration part II" at 06:19 pm
  • posted by Spock

    Sweet.  About time.  You should have to turn in your cell phone and not be allowed to get cable TV either till you can feed your kids.

    Cable I understand.  It's absolutely a luxury.  There's no real utility.

    Your cell phone, however?  That can be pretty helpful for getting a job and, thus, no longer needing unemployment.

    Beyond that, this isn't exactly the same thing as other social programs.  It's not sucked out of a slush fund or anything.  It's paid into by employers specifically for cases of unemployment.  I'm not sure I'm suddenly a cheerleader of big government regulating the decisions of private citizens just because I think the ways in which they'd spend their money might not be as frugal as others.

    I do wonder how much it's going to cost to implement this, though.  Not exactly a fan of spending dimes to make sure the nickels aren't being wasted.

  • O-Trap replied to "Crazy traffic citations" at 01:53 pm
  • posted by vball10set

    wow--2mph over? how much did they get you for?

    It was almost exactly half a lifetime ago, so I admit, I don't remember how much the ticket was for, but for a nearly-18-year-old, it felt like a ton of money.

  • O-Trap replied to "Crazy traffic citations" at 01:29 pm

  • I once got a ticket for going 22 MPH in a school zone.

    Truth is, I was trying to pick up speed.  I'd come out of the school, so I didn't see the lights flashing, but they were normally off by that time anyway.

    The kicker?  The officer who pulled me over had been a senior at our HS when I was a freshman.

  • O-Trap replied to "Progressives, part 3..." at 01:23 pm
  • posted by Heretic

    Someone's following in 45's footsteps in showing everyone how to use Twitter to be the biggest l'il bitch around!

    More or less.

    Never, EVER thought I'd say this, but I miss practically every president prior to Trump in my lifetime.  Obama, Clinton, the Bushes, Reagan ... all of them.  They didn't play angry armchair quarterback on social media, any virtue signaling they did was more impersonal, they didn't feel the need to respond and quarrel with every notable voice that disagreed with them, and frankly, they appeared to know the difference between an ideological adversary and an evil villain.

    In summation, they acted like adults.  Holy fucking Moses, where have the adults gone in politics?

  • O-Trap replied to "Progressives, part 3..." at 12:38 pm

  • *sigh*

    Beto is an idiot.

    Yes, O'Rourke.  It is a threat, but it's contingent on you entering his home against his will and confiscating his property without his consent.

    It's hardly unreasonable to say that someone will protect their home and property with necessary force.  And the fact that Beto would do this using governmental power actually illustrates the point of the 2nd Amendment.  It's not primarily for hunting or home security from burglars and robbers.  It's to protect against the boots-on-the-ground style of militaristic force that Beto is calling on here.


     

  • O-Trap replied to "2019 Fantasy Football" at 12:34 am

  • I had the 1th pick in one of my drafts, and I took Kamara.  Then, I just traded this past week to get Saquon (without giving up Kamara).

    Feeling pretty good about my RB situation.  lol