LOCKED: Disgusted with progressives, part 2...

posted by ptown_trojans_1

That's my rational on why would she be making this up? Why would she subject herself to this? She never wanted this to play out, which is why Feistein held on to it for so long. 

That said, unsurprisingly, people that believe her and were already against Kav are yelling now. People, like on her, that were didn't believe her are not convinced. 

I've come around that this all doesn't matter as the Rs just want to push this through and are just going through the motions today. 

Kav should get confirmed sometime soon. This all doesn't matter as in the end, the Rs just do not believe her. 

The Pubs were never going to believe her, no matter how credible her story was.  The Louies were always going to believe her, regardless of whether or not there was an credible evidence.

As for why she might?  If she's convinced that the ends justify the means (lying to keep Kavanaugh from the SCOTUS), I could MAYBE see her doing it.  But if any witnesses existed, but they weren't close to either Ford or Kavanaugh, I could see them trying to stay out of it even if they DID remember something.

Democrats sending out fundraising emails during this. It's NOT political though.

Will continue to come down to he said she said and if the couple right leaning people will vote no. I could see 2 repubs flipping. She did throw her friend under the bus who denied knowing anything about the incident (That at one point she said was a witness). None of this would ever hold up in an actual court of law (she would crumble under cross examination), but as the dem talking point has been repeated numerous times "it's a job interview not a hearing". 

I actually don't know any women like this IRL. I hope that this trend amongst many young females discontinues. Can't stop soon enough!

posted by CenterBHSFan

I actually don't know any women like this IRL. I hope that this trend amongst many young females discontinues. Can't stop soon enough!

If I ever happen to meet Brie Larson, I'm definitely asking her for her phone number.

The Democrats have stepped in it.  What a circus.

posted by CenterBHSFan

I actually don't know any women like this IRL. I hope that this trend amongst many young females discontinues. Can't stop soon enough!

 

Forcing the answer you want is assault.

Asking the question is not.

Brie was looking for a reason to be incensed, so she found one.

"If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail."

“They know the optics of 11 white men questioning Dr. Ford ... will be so harmful and so damaging to the GOP.” -- Areva Martin, CNN legal analyst

“They understand that you have all of these white men who would be questioning this woman ... the optics of it would look terrible.” -- Gloria Borger, CNN chief political analyst

“Women across this nation should be outraged at what these white men senators are doing to this woman.” -- Rep. John Garamendi, D-Calif.

“There has been some discussion of the GOP senators who happened to all be ... white men.” -- Jim Sciutto, CNN correspondent

“What troubles me is now there are ... they’re all white men.” -- Jennifer Granholm, former governor of Michigan, on CNN

”You’re seeing on display a metaphor for what this party is, which is basically ignorant white men.” -- “Morning Joe” contributor Donny Deutsch

“All these white men ... stumbling all over themselves asking her, you know, aggressive and obnoxious questions.” -- Asha Rangappa, CNN analyst

“What are those -- that collection of old white men going to do?” -- Cynthia Alksne, MSNBC contributor

“If she testifies in front of the Judiciary Committee, where 11 members are white men ...” -- Susan Del Percio, Republican political strategist, on MSNBC

“Once again, it will be all white men on the Republican side of the Judiciary Committee.” -- CNN anchor Poppy Harlow

“The optics for Republicans are going to be really tricky ... You’ve got all white men on the Republican side here ...” -- Julie Pace, Washington bureau chief for The Associated Press, on CNN

“The Republicans, it happens to be 11 white men still on that side.” -- CNN host John Berman

“The Republicans, it is 11 white men, talk to me about how you think the tone inside this hearing on Monday will be perceived?" -- Berman, a few minutes later

“On the Republican side, all 11 are white men.” -- Berman, again, same show, several minutes later

“What hasn’t changed is the number of white men questioning, certainly, on the Republican side.” -- Dana Bash, CNN chief political correspondent

“The Republican side on the Senate Judiciary Committee is all white men ...” -- Irin Carmon, senior correspondent for New York Magazine, on MSNBC

“Only this crowd of clueless old white guys ...” -- The Washington Post’s Jennifer Rubin on Twitter

Asking about yearbooks... this is what this charade has come to. Holy shit democrats

posted by iclfan2

Asking about yearbooks... this is what this charade has come to. Holy shit democrats

Yep this is all Democrats. Lol

posted by QuakerOats

 

“They know the optics of 11 white men questioning Dr. Ford ... will be so harmful and so damaging to the GOP.” -- Areva Martin, CNN legal analyst

“They understand that you have all of these white men who would be questioning this woman ... the optics of it would look terrible.” -- Gloria Borger, CNN chief political analyst

“Women across this nation should be outraged at what these white men senators are doing to this woman.” -- Rep. John Garamendi, D-Calif.

“There has been some discussion of the GOP senators who happened to all be ... white men.” -- Jim Sciutto, CNN correspondent

“What troubles me is now there are ... they’re all white men.” -- Jennifer Granholm, former governor of Michigan, on CNN

”You’re seeing on display a metaphor for what this party is, which is basically ignorant white men.” -- “Morning Joe” contributor Donny Deutsch

“All these white men ... stumbling all over themselves asking her, you know, aggressive and obnoxious questions.” -- Asha Rangappa, CNN analyst

“What are those -- that collection of old white men going to do?” -- Cynthia Alksne, MSNBC contributor

“If she testifies in front of the Judiciary Committee, where 11 members are white men ...” -- Susan Del Percio, Republican political strategist, on MSNBC

“Once again, it will be all white men on the Republican side of the Judiciary Committee.” -- CNN anchor Poppy Harlow

“The optics for Republicans are going to be really tricky ... You’ve got all white men on the Republican side here ...” -- Julie Pace, Washington bureau chief for The Associated Press, on CNN

“The Republicans, it happens to be 11 white men still on that side.” -- CNN host John Berman

“The Republicans, it is 11 white men, talk to me about how you think the tone inside this hearing on Monday will be perceived?" -- Berman, a few minutes later

 

“On the Republican side, all 11 are white men.” -- Berman, again, same show, several minutes later

“What hasn’t changed is the number of white men questioning, certainly, on the Republican side.” -- Dana Bash, CNN chief political correspondent

“The Republican side on the Senate Judiciary Committee is all white men ...” -- Irin Carmon, senior correspondent for New York Magazine, on MSNBC

“Only this crowd of clueless old white guys ...” -- The Washington Post’s Jennifer Rubin on Twitter

 

Whether or not the optics aren't the best (earlier, I admitted they weren't), it doesn't change the facts of the case.

posted by iclfan2

Asking about yearbooks... this is what this charade has come to. Holy shit democrats

Oh, come on.  You knew it was going to devolve into a shit show.  ;)

Also a good performance by Kavanaugh.  Enough for his supporters and the right wing.....but I think Ford probably changed more than 2 votes.

Put an end to the circus and just have the vote.

what a shit show today was.  

The average guy is sitting here thinking "you mean to tell me he liked parties and drinking?"  "Cool".

Kavanaugh said "beer" more times than Homer Simpson.  He was compelling, but also trying way too hard.

floor vote on saturday.

THey must know that Flake and other center pubs are all voting for Kavenaugh

posted by Spock

floor vote on saturday.

 

THey must know that Flake and other center pubs are all voting for Kavenaugh

I think that's a bad sign for them if they aren't voting today. They originally wanted to vote today. 

Judiciary vote is today, the floor vote is monday.  GOP is going to cuck themselves per usual.  They just gave the dems 3 full days to come up with more bullshit.  Not to mention Avenati's client has a primetime interviewing with NBC airing Sunday.

posted by CenterBHSFan

Before Feinstein released her "bombshell" I was indifferent. After first woman came forward I was skeptical. Second accuser came out and I was smelling smoke. Third/fourth... I'm not buying any of it now.

I agree that there were plenty of other choices for the GOP. Would you have approved if they immediately dropped him like a hot potato? I know it probably would have crossed MY mind to do that, but that doesn't mean that is what I would do. But it would have crossed my mind. Do you think that the GOP is/was wrong in trying to get this woman to tell her side of the story? Would you rather that they did not?

I suppose that there might be some culpability in the GOP but right now, I can't think of what it is.

I don't give two shits or a fuck about Mark Judge. 

Again, I hope this never happens again. I don't believe it is beneficial to the accusers, the accused, the politicians or the public.

I am saying that the GOP people investigating these nominees knew the baggage and they blew it off. 9 deep field FBI background checks and nobody thought - gee he's got this creepy friend who wrote a book with a character in it with the same last name getting hammered all the time. Gee, there's emails where he references getting hammered. 

Etc. 

And indeed - in the grand world all,of those things may be irrelevent to his being a judge but Kavanaugh was already held up for two years when nominated for the court of appeals. The GOP establishment that pushed their guy Kavanaugh on Trump blew this thing. It was a layup and they gave the Democrats all they could possibly get out of this fight. 

posted by BoatShoes

I am saying that the GOP people investigating these nominees knew the baggage and they blew it off. 9 deep field FBI background checks and nobody thought - gee he's got this creepy friend who wrote a book with a character in it with the same last name getting hammered all the time. Gee, there's emails where he references getting hammered. 

Etc. 

And indeed - in the grand world all,of those things may be irrelevent to his being a judge but Kavanaugh was already held up for two years when nominated for the court of appeals. The GOP establishment that pushed their guy Kavanaugh on Trump blew this thing. It was a layup and they gave the Democrats all they could possibly get out of this fight. 

For drinking? LMAO.  What happened to the good ol days (about 2.5 weeks ago) when liberals made fun of conservatives for being up tight? 

This made me lol:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/theconcourse.deadspin.com/brett-kavanaugh-really-really-likes-beer-1829375091/amp

He's never forgotten even part of a night though whilst imbibing in that sweet sweet beer 😂

posted by like_that

Judiciary vote is today, the floor vote is monday.  GOP is going to cuck themselves per usual.  They just gave the dems 3 full days to come up with more bullshit.  Not to mention Avenati's client has a primetime interviewing with NBC airing Sunday.

After watching about 5 mins of Kav's testimony and then seeing Lindsay Graham have his outburst, I'm pretty convinced the committee votes for him and he gets confirmed by about a 52-48 margin.