If I’m Votto after what happened in the off-season i don’t blame him if he says f it and coasts and collects a paycheck it’s what ownership is doing. Dude gave his career for a joke of a franchise.
friendfromlowry
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Yeah it’d be interesting to know what’s going through Votto’s head. On one hand, he can wipe away his tears with plenty of $100 bills. But year 16 in the league, four playoff appearances, no playoff series wins.
Am I looking at that correctly? 16 seasons, only two playoff games won (2012 where they won the first games vs Giants then lost the following three which still haunts me today) Swept by the Phillies in 2010, lost wild card game in 2013, swept by Braves in 2020.
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posted by sportchamppsIf I’m Votto after what happened in the off-season i don’t blame him if he says f it and coasts and collects a paycheck it’s what ownership is doing. Dude gave his career for a joke of a franchise.
He’s been adequately compensated
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posted by friendfromlowryYeah it’d be interesting to know what’s going through Votto’s head. On one hand, he can wipe away his tears with plenty of $100 bills. But year 16 in the league, four playoff appearances, no playoff series wins.
Am I looking at that correctly? 16 seasons, only two playoff games won (2012 where they won the first games vs Giants then lost the following three which still haunts me today) Swept by the Phillies in 2010, lost wild card game in 2013, swept by Braves in 2020.
And he was not good in those playoff games.
friendfromlowry
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Justin is going to come in here and ban us soon for the Votto slander.
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Holy fuck put this team out of its misery already. Can the season be done now
Laley23
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3-21?!?!? So bad.
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Even the Pirates might be in line for a series sweep this weekend.
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Lol
Just throw straight fastballs, don’t pitch
Heretic
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That pitching staff is just over-the-top bad. Getting to the point where giving up less than 10 runs in a game probably feels like a moral victory. I was randomly checking in from time to time while working. The first time I looked at the score, it was 3-0 Reds. Didn't feel like it was much longer and I looked again and it was 3-6. With all that done in two innings.
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I have never had a team make me this sad, and I'm a Jaguars fan
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posted by brutus161I have never had a team make me this sad, and I'm a Jaguars fan
Echoed as a Jets fan.
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Reds pitchers: 166 runs allowed
Reds hitters: 162 hits
Since the founding of the NL in 1876, no team had ever allowed more runs than the number of hits by their batters through more than 22 games before this team. (h/t to @Juice2uc for the heads up)— Joel Luckhaupt (@jluckhaupt) May 6, 2022
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Wonder if Phil has found himself yet...
QuakerOats
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Reds scored 3 in the top of the first and it looked hopeful, then the Brewcrew answered with 3 in the bottom half. Bad juju ...... when will it end?
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Reds already have an 11 game and a 9 game losing streak this season.
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posted by justincredibleReds already have an 11 game and a 9 game losing streak this season.
Reds are responsible for 9/11 confirmed.
Ironman92
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Reds dominate Pirates
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A 7-spot in the 8th. That's like a weeks worth of runs in one inning.
Heretic
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At least the Pirates got the second game. But it still feels like a humiliating day. Probably because of that 8th inning. Get nothing out of a bases loaded, no outs situation and then have a total pitching meltdown. That's the Pirates I've been conditioned to expect these last couple years.
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posted by HereticAt least the Pirates got the second game. But it still feels like a humiliating day. Probably because of that 8th inning. Get nothing out of a bases loaded, no outs situation and then have a total pitching meltdown. That's the Pirates I've been conditioned to expect these last couple years.
If it makes you feel any better Chad Kuhl is top 10 in ERA and Batting Avarage Against
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posted by Ironman92If it makes you feel any better Chad Kuhl is top 10 in ERA and Batting Avarage Against
While I don't think Kuhl is better than a low-end rotation piece and that good start is a mirage, I'm at the conclusion that the big difference between the Pirates and equally cheap Cleveland over these past few years has been the ability to consistently develop pitching -- which is weird considered that for a good while, Searage was considered an elite pitching coach.
But it just is so rare that ANYONE winds up being better than expected and they've had some huge flops. Glasnow sucked as a Pirate; as a TB player, the only thing keeping him from elite status has been his injury history. Currently, equally-touted Keller has also sucked, alternating between decent starts and ones where he gets bombed. And guys like Kuhl and other lesser-tier pieces tend to be the same way. Don't know if its the fault of the minor league developmental or at the MLB level, but as a small-market team, if they can't fix that, they'll never contend for even those brief windows that small-market teams tend to have.
ernest_t_bass
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World Series or bust!