Covid-19 discussion, continued...

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  • Fri, Apr 10, 2020 3:50 PM
    posted by QuakerOats

     

    By the way, the big makeshift hospital they built inside the Seahawks stadium is being dismantled.  They had ZERO patients.

    Yeah, because they acted earlier than most states and thus are already of most of the country in terms of cases and deaths. 

    Their policies are working, which is why they did not need the makeshift hospital. The fact that it is being dismantled is actually good news. 

    I'll give a ton of credit to DeWine and how Ohio is handling this. The cases and deaths is on the downward trend. Keep it up guys. 

    Where I am at in Maryland, cases are still on the rise. Although, Hogan has done a great job at limiting the impact. 

    Fri, Apr 10, 2020 3:54 PM
    posted by QuakerOats

     

    By the way, the big makeshift hospital they built inside the Seahawks stadium is being dismantled.  They had ZERO patients.

    There was a field hospital in Southampton setup for DDay casualties that was never used either. Was DDay really just a "fake invasion"?

    Fri, Apr 10, 2020 4:13 PM
    posted by O-Trap

    Don't know what to tell you.  She's almost 2 and a half, so she fits well into 'toddler' territory, but she's chill, and she still sleeps about 14 hours a day.  We take her on walks (keeping probably 25-30 feet between ourselves and others, because that's relatively easy to do on walks), play with her a lot, and do video calls with all the grandparents most every day, and that seems to keep her happy, so there aren't too many tantrums.

    Your kid is definitely a mutant (and I'm jealous). So on behalf of parents with asshole toddlers, fuck you! 

    Fri, Apr 10, 2020 4:34 PM
    posted by ptown_trojans_1

    Yeah, because they acted earlier than most states and thus are already of most of the country in terms of cases and deaths. 

    Their policies are working, which is why they did not need the makeshift hospital. The fact that it is being dismantled is actually good news. 

    I'll give a ton of credit to DeWine and how Ohio is handling this. The cases and deaths is on the downward trend. Keep it up guys. 

    Where I am at in Maryland, cases are still on the rise. Although, Hogan has done a great job at limiting the impact. 

     

    I’m not saying the policies did not work or have not helped. I am saying the projections and models, which baked in mitigation, look to be terribly inaccurate.  Were they borne of bad bureaucratic numbers (as usual)?

    Fri, Apr 10, 2020 4:42 PM
    posted by iclfan2

    Your kid is definitely a mutant (and I'm jealous). So on behalf of parents with asshole toddlers, fuck you! 

    Well shit, I'll wear it like a badge.
     

    posted by QuakerOats

    I’m not saying the policies did not work or have not helped. I am saying the projections and models, which baked in mitigation, look to be terribly inaccurate.  Were they borne of bad bureaucratic numbers (as usual)?

    What makes you think they baked in mitigation like we've seen?

    I'm no fan of bureaucracy, particularly by force, but I'd imagine they probably built them with the worst possible outcome in mind.  After all, if you plan for the worst possible outcome, but you don't end up with it, it's an annoyance.  But if you don't plan for the worst possible outcome, but you get it, it's a significant problem.

     

    Fri, Apr 10, 2020 5:15 PM

     

     

    They indicated 2 million or more deaths; and maybe 1 million with mitigation.  Then they said maybe 240,000 deaths; then 100,000 to 200,000.  Now it may be 60,000.  My point is their modeling is poor, piss poor, and it led to much more panic than necessary, not to mention much more spending than likely warranted, and much, much more economic destruction than necessary.  We know who needs to be quarantined; they should handle it from there.

    Fri, Apr 10, 2020 5:45 PM

    Has anyone received their checks yet?

     

    Fri, Apr 10, 2020 5:56 PM
    posted by QuakerOats

     

     

    They indicated 2 million or more deaths; and maybe 1 million with mitigation.  Then they said maybe 240,000 deaths; then 100,000 to 200,000.  Now it may be 60,000.  My point is their modeling is poor, piss poor, and it led to much more panic than necessary, not to mention much more spending than likely warranted, and much, much more economic destruction than necessary.  We know who needs to be quarantined; they should handle it from there.

    Any expert on the subject hopes to be wrong on their projections. 

    Who exactly should be quarantined? Would you lump yourself into that group?

    Everyone age X and older? All obsese people? Diabetics? Ashmatic? Who cares for these people? Gets them groceries and other supplies? Do you seal them off in their homes? 

    Fri, Apr 10, 2020 6:00 PM
    posted by ernest_t_bass

    Has anyone received their checks yet?

     

    My sister said she got an alert from her bank about a $1200 deposit today. 

    Fri, Apr 10, 2020 6:08 PM
    posted by ernest_t_bass

    Has anyone received their checks yet?

     

    Supposed to start Monday and Tuesday. 

    Fri, Apr 10, 2020 6:28 PM
    posted by ernest_t_bass

    Has anyone received their checks yet?

     

    Fri, Apr 10, 2020 6:38 PM
    posted by QuakerOats

    They indicated 2 million or more deaths; and maybe 1 million with mitigation.  Then they said maybe 240,000 deaths; then 100,000 to 200,000.  Now it may be 60,000.  My point is their modeling is poor, piss poor, and it led to much more panic than necessary, not to mention much more spending than likely warranted, and much, much more economic destruction than necessary.  We know who needs to be quarantined; they should handle it from there.

    You've tracked it right, but they're just updated estimates based on the progress resulting from the measures.  You can't fault someone for that.  That's how estimates work.  They base them on the current circumstances and update them as models dictate.

    Now, as for the money spent, and MAYBE some of the economic measures, sure.

    However, no. We don't "know who needs to be quarantined."  It takes too long to even know who is infected.  That's part of the problem.
     

    posted by Automatik

    Any expert on the subject hopes to be wrong on their projections. 

    Who exactly should be quarantined? Would you lump yourself into that group?

    Everyone age X and older? All obsese people? Diabetics? Ashmatic? Who cares for these people? Gets them groceries and other supplies? Do you seal them off in their homes? 

     

    I'm sure he's healthy as a horse and not in his own determination of who needs to be quarantined.  It's like where people draw the line on "bad" people.  They'll always draw that line below themselves.
     

    posted by kizer permanente

    LOL  Rep'd.

     

    Fri, Apr 10, 2020 8:53 PM

    I think my wife and I are over the income limit to be eligible for stimulus.

    Fri, Apr 10, 2020 9:53 PM
    posted by slingshot4ever

    I think my wife and I are over the income limit to be eligible for stimulus.

    Sick humble brag

    Fri, Apr 10, 2020 9:58 PM

    Doesn’t it just phase down after $150k? Or is it cut off?

    Fri, Apr 10, 2020 10:01 PM
    • If you're a single US resident and have an adjusted gross income less than $99,000
    • If you file as the head of a household and earn under $146,500
    • If you file jointly without children and earn less than $198,000

    A single US resident must have a Social Security number and an AGI under $75,000 to receive the full amount of $1,200. The sum decreases as your AGI goes up. If your adjusted gross income reaches $99,000, you won't be eligible for the stimulus. 

    https://www.cnet.com/how-to/coronavirus-stimulus-checks-up-to-1200-arrive-soon-eligibility-how-much-youll-get-and-when/

    Sat, Apr 11, 2020 1:11 AM

    I don’t remember what we earned in 2018 but I hope we receive something but I’m not sure we will.

    Sat, Apr 11, 2020 3:41 AM
    posted by justincredible

    You're an absolute fucking moron.

    No comment....except that I think you now understand my point.

    I mean, he thinks me mocking him is "jimmys rustled" as opposed to "OMG this guy is going to kill people with his stupidity".

    Carry on.

    Sat, Apr 11, 2020 8:58 AM
    posted by gut

    No comment....except that I think you now understand my point.

    I mean, he thinks me mocking him is "jimmys rustled" as opposed to "OMG this guy is going to kill people with his stupidity".

    Carry on.

    Sweet contribution. Let’s keep it on topic, please provide updated stats on how 250mm Americans are going to have covid 19. Tysm

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