Covid-19 discussion, continued...

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Fri, Mar 5, 2021 12:23 AM
posted by justincredible

Cases is a stupid metric because it's a lot easier to manipulate with testing. If you're gonna base it on something it should be hospitalizations. 

You would think they would figure this out after a year...

gut Senior Member
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Fri, Mar 5, 2021 12:42 AM
posted by like_that

You would think they would figure this out after a year...

 We need to remember most people are stupid...The moment they start telling people things are under control is when everyone stops all following the guidelines and a bunch more don't bother to get vaccinated.

IMO, even if we get to herd immunity it's probably not going to prevent a future mutation from being prevalent (like the seasonal flu).  It will take 2-3 years to crank-up enough global vaccinations to potentially wipe it out. 

But maybe if you've been vaccinated or actually had it then it won't be that big of a deal no longer "novel" to your system. 

8,788 posts 21 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Mar 5, 2021 9:21 AM
posted by justincredible

Cases is a stupid metric because it's a lot easier to manipulate with testing. If you're gonna base it on something it should be hospitalizations. 

Agree. It should be hospitalizations.

However, it is better than nothing. Low bar I know.  

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Fri, Mar 5, 2021 11:39 AM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Agree. It should be hospitalizations.

However, it is better than nothing. Low bar I know.  

No, no it's not.
Verbal Kint Senior Member
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Fri, Mar 5, 2021 12:01 PM
posted by gut

 

But maybe if you've been vaccinated or actually had it then it won't be that big of a deal no longer "novel" to your system. 

Is this true, don't we need to shut down small businesses and don't let kids smile at each other to protect everyone, even if the severity rate is less than 1%?


Fletch Member
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Fri, Mar 5, 2021 1:20 PM

After a year of science gathering, to keep the healthy population locked down for less then .03% of the population is ridiculous.



Automatik Senior Member
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Fri, Mar 5, 2021 1:44 PM

Seems to be about pride now. State/local government's dug themselves so far in the lockdown hole they creep out the reopening to not look like they were huge mistakes. They'll piggyback it on the increasing vax numbers to save face.

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Fri, Mar 5, 2021 2:30 PM

Biden calls out the Texas governor over removing the mask mandate, and at the same time allows 108 covid-infected illegal aliens to waltz into Texas and be dispersed throughout the country, along with tens of thousands more on the way. 


Mind numbing.



Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Fri, Mar 5, 2021 3:01 PM
posted by QuakerOats

Biden calls out the Texas governor over removing the mask mandate, and at the same time allows 108 covid-infected illegal aliens to waltz into Texas and be dispersed throughout the country, along with tens of thousands more on the way. 


Mind numbing.



You're onto him - Biden's sole goal is to let those brown skin Mexican farraners in to infect you and your women and children.   Their comin' to get ya Quaker!!!  They don't even speak English!!!!

Spock Senior Member
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Sat, Mar 6, 2021 8:40 AM
posted by Automatik

Seems to be about pride now. State/local government's dug themselves so far in the lockdown hole they creep out the reopening to not look like they were huge mistakes. They'll piggyback it on the increasing vax numbers to save face.

If they want re-elected they will pull out fast.

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Sat, Mar 6, 2021 9:27 AM
posted by Spock

If they want re-elected they will pull out fast.

That's what she said. 

superman Senior Member
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Sun, Mar 7, 2021 11:42 AM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

You're onto him - Biden's sole goal is to let those brown skin Mexican farraners in to infect you and your women and children.   Their comin' to get ya Quaker!!!  They don't even speak English!!!!

If your IQ ever hits 80, you should sell. 

Fred Garvin Senior Member
302 posts 6 reps Joined Nov 2009
Mon, Mar 8, 2021 9:54 AM

Got my first dose yesterday. Pfizer. Arm is a bit sore today but other than that no issues.

Ironman92 Administrator
56,729 posts 141 reps Joined Nov 2009
Mon, Mar 8, 2021 10:55 AM
posted by Fred Garvin

Got my first dose yesterday. Pfizer. Arm is a bit sore today but other than that no issues.

To be nosey....how old are you?


Spock Senior Member
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Mon, Mar 8, 2021 11:04 AM

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-vaccine-updates-03-08-21/h_0a5c1e4e02c8447fea6e6c33039b0f09?tab=all


So the CDC is going to come out with "what vaccinated people can do"


Really, GTFOH.  The CDC doesnt have any authority to dictate what people can do.

sportchampps Senior Member
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Mon, Mar 8, 2021 11:20 AM

How often does Ohio release te cases per 100k stat

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Mon, Mar 8, 2021 11:32 AM
posted by Spock

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-vaccine-updates-03-08-21/h_0a5c1e4e02c8447fea6e6c33039b0f09?tab=all


So the CDC is going to come out with "what vaccinated people can do"


Really, GTFOH.  The CDC doesnt have any authority to dictate what people can do.

They are coming out with guidelines which are basically suggestions.  That's much different than enacting a law and dictating what you can or can't do.  

Verbal Kint Senior Member
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Mon, Mar 8, 2021 12:21 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

They are coming out with guidelines which are basically suggestions.  That's much different than enacting a law and dictating what you can or can't do.  

Suggestions you say

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
3,345 posts 24 reps Joined Oct 2010
Mon, Mar 8, 2021 12:40 PM
posted by Verbal Kint

Suggestions you say

Of course someone's always got to go to the  Nazi/Hitler button.  Read:

  • The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich by William Shirer
  • Adolf Hitler by Ian Kershaw
  • Becoming Hitler by Thomas Weber
  • Nazi Germany and the Jews by Saul Friedland


Just to name a few.  The US now and throughout its history has nothing in common with Nazi Germany.  CDC or other suggesting people maintain social distancing or wear a mask is only that - a suggestion.  If you don't want to do it, don't do it.  There's been a guideline about eating according to the food pyramid since the 1960s, and I'm not aware of anyone sent to a concentration camp for not eating their vegetables.  


Whenever a Democrat is in office, he/she is not one step away from Stalin.  Whenever a Republican is in office, he/she is not one step away from Hitler.  Those comparisons are so meaningless and frankly a huge insult to the people who had to live in those time.  Hell, read about the 1936 Olympics in Berlin and what life was like there at the time.  This is pre-death camp and I can assure you that no one in the US faces anything similar to the Nazi government of those years.  

Weak try.

Gardens35 Senior Member
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Mon, Mar 8, 2021 12:57 PM

The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich is most likely the best ever written on the subject.



Yes, terms like Nazi, Fascist, Dictator etc get tossed around frivolously.



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