Covid-19 discussion, continued...

posted by gut

The amount of money involved...the ENTIRE MARKET rallied 5% on this news.  You go to jail when you make news like this without having all your ducks in a row.

Big deal to be first.  It IS a race, especially for someone like Pfizer that didn't have a govt partnership in this.

Kind of known about phizer for a month or more but couldn't say anything about it as we are under a confidentiality agreement.

Our company is engineering millions of dollars of equipment for the ramping up of this program. We had the order a month ago and they needed the design and fabrication done by the end of the year, specifically for the vaccine they were going to have done.

Also working with another company that specifically makes the ampules (little glass tubes) that hold medicine/vaccines and ramping up their glass melting/producing facilities in Q1 of 2021 as they know production of their ampules will increase by a lot come Q1. This project is one I am directly working as it involves oxygen/natural gas combustion in the glass melting furnaces.

Our engineering office literally tried to say no to phizer because with the economy coming back so well we were drowning in work. They kept raising their price they would pay until we said yes and basically had to tell other customers they would not be getting their systems until Jan/Feb. It would be like going to the car dealer and wanting an F150 for $40,000 MSRP but they are sold out for the next 3 months. You keep upping how much you will pay until you can get one ahead of someone else and you end up paying $100,000 for the same F150, but you get it in a few weeks and someone else doesn't get theirs until January.

posted by friendfromlowry

“Sniff sniff, why didn’t they have the vaccine ready before the election. Then Trump would of won 😢😢😢😢😢”

posted by jmog

Kind of known about phizer for a month or more but couldn't say anything about it as we are under a confidentiality agreement.

Really we've all known about it.  Well, maybe not the people who get their pandemic porn exclusively from CNN.  But I've been anxiously waiting to hear about effectiveness.

I think they said "at least 90% effective".  Not sure what the models or CI's look like, but I believe it's 96 cases out of 22,000 vaccinated in the trial, which is something like 0.4% of the total.  Except who knows how that translates to several months in the real world with no covid restrictions.  But 50-60% like the flu vaccine wasn't going to get it done.  This is truly incredible, great news.

posted by friendfromlowry

“Sniff sniff, why didn’t they have the vaccine ready before the election. Then Trump would have won 😢😢😢😢😢”

Since it's CC, it should be "Then Trump would of won".

3 team basketball scrimmage Saturday....one of visiting players tested positive today and wiped out every player that was on the court at any point with him over the 8 quarters.

My son somehow avoided the quarantine but then got the call this afternoon that the random kid behind the plastic shields of the table and the kid doesn’t eat, just sits there with mask on and reads....that kid got him quarantined.

Silly stuff

It got Coach Izzo.

And he said no one has been more cautious than him.  Has no idea how or where he could have gotten it.

The best thing is 90% effective lets us go back to normal not a new normal. For them to receive the 2 billion from the US they have to deliver this year. 

We should have enough doses for the US population by mid 2021 as long as distribution goes right. I hope Biden keeps with Trumps plan to use the Army for distribution they are actually good at supply chain management be cause if they get behind they just call for more people instead of having to hire and train people privat

posted by sportchampps

The best thing is 90% effective lets us go back to normal not a new normal. For them to receive the 2 billion from the US they have to deliver this year. 

We should have enough doses for the US population by mid 2021 as long as distribution goes right. I hope Biden keeps with Trumps plan to use the Army for disruption they are actually good at supply chain management be cause if they get behind they just call for more people instead of having to hire and train people privat

Trump and disruption. That’s about right

posted by friendfromlowry

“Sniff sniff, why didn’t they have the vaccine ready before the election. Then Trump would have won 😢😢😢😢😢”

“Sniff sniff why didn’t they have the vaxine ready befor the election than Trump would of one and I woulda made my wife nut 😥😥😥😥” 

There, made it more Spock authentic. 

posted by sportchampps

We should have enough doses for the US population by mid 2021 as long as distribution goes right. I hope Biden keeps with Trumps plan to use the Army for distribution they are actually good at supply chain management

posted by gut

the ENTIRE MARKET rallied 5% on this news

the markets were up big before the news was even announced. international markets were killing it and the indexes were up big pre-market

I saw the news before 8.

posted by queencitybuckeye

I saw the news before 8.

which is why i mentioned the international markets and pre-market.

SPY was up 2-3% at 4am.

it's premarket so it doesn't mean a tremendous amount, but the market was probably gonna be up today no matter what.

also, there was a huge sell-off towards the end of the day today so it only ended up 2% or so (which is about where it was at 4AM this morning)

posted by MontyBrunswick

which is why i mentioned the international markets and pre-market.

SPY was up 2-3% at 4am.

it's premarket so it doesn't mean a tremendous amount, but the market was probably gonna be up today no matter what.

also, there was a huge sell-off towards the end of the day today so it only ended up 2% or so (which is about where it was at 4AM this morning)

The pre-market was already up big on the Biden win over the weekend. The vaccine just added to it.

posted by sportchampps

The best thing is 90% effective lets us go back to normal not a new normal. For them to receive the 2 billion from the US they have to deliver this year. 

We should have enough doses for the US population by mid 2021 as long as distribution goes right. I hope Biden keeps with Trumps plan to use the Army for distribution they are actually good at supply chain management be cause if they get behind they just call for more people instead of having to hire and train people privat

If not the army, then Chick-fil-A. The have logistics and operations down pat. 

Just got notification that we're continuing our WFH arrangements until at least April 1.

posted by justincredible

Just got notification that we're continuing our WFH arrangements until at least April 1.

I wouldn't be surprised if my company doesn't have me stay at home permanently unless I need to come in the office for something.

Myself, and many others, are far out pacing their goals for the year. My current role is to help the sales team pre-engineer the systems so that they get it right. So my goals are based on $$ that I help the sales team land.

My goal was $750,000 for the year, I am currently at $1.5 million. There are a few others in the same situation. If you have somewhat decent worth ethics you get a lot more done at home than you do in an office. Assuming you have a job you can do remotely.

Yeah, I'm hoping to negotiate this into permanent WFH status so we can move somewhere else.

posted by gut
Hopefully it's already been addressed, but one thing I haven't heard or seen is how this is going to work globally?  Are we going to get Pfizer's first 100M doses that roll off the line, or do we get like 25% of what they can produce and the rest is going to Canada, Britain, etc?

Just brainstorming here, but wouldn't it be smart for some of these airlines to get in on this action and help distribute the vaccines around the world? 

posted by justincredible

Yeah, I'm hoping to negotiate this into permanent WFH status so we can move somewhere else.

As someone who hasn't had a regular office in many years, my experience is initially you really bust your ass to justify you're not screwing around, then eventually you settle into a more normal work schedule.  And then, after a while, you start to miss the interaction with colleagues. 

Companies are all thinking about the bottom line, and the demand to work from home more, to reduce their overhead on office space.  The short-term efficiency gains will eventually start to crack while the loss of those office synergies start piling up.  Some companies will do this well, but it's REALLY hard to manage remote working effectively.

To me the sweet spot is going into an office 2-3 times per week.  Companies that try to do 100% remote are going to have problems.  And productivity monitoring software really sucks the life out of the appeal of flexible schedules working from home.

And I realize I'm becoming an old man screaming at clouds but I really hate when colleagues send me a text instead of an email.  If you're anything like my stupid friends and family, you're turning a 30 second conversation or email into a 15 minute constant interruption with a series of text messages back and forth.