LOCKED: Coronavirus

posted by gut

Is it really that hard to imagine a sample virus for research infected one of the researchers?  I'd like to know more about the doctor that sounded an early alarm, and recently died from the disease.  It's not remotely the "ridiculous" or "outlandish" theory made out to be.  Yes, there are no markers for manipulation, which I said.  But that hardly rules out the source being a research lab.

And is it really a stretch to think at least one of H1N1, SARS or CV19 originated from a Chinese infectious disease lab?  That would be one hell of multiple coincidences if not.

 

Yes, yes it is hard. This isn't some movie man. There is zero evidence that China was behind any of those viruses. Just because we see China as shady and we see a disease show up does not mean China created the thing in a lab.

I guess you believe the CIA created AIDS too because that has as much evidence as you are putting forth. 

How about the theory the doctor was silenced so the ones in power do not have to deal with the disease? China is big on censure and squashing bad news. There is far more evidence of that than your crazy bat shit theory. 

We have the first case in northern CA of unknown origin. That was bound to happen. 

Seems like the CDC and NIH are on top of this now. 

posted by Laley23

There is more evidence that the moon landing was a hoax than what you are accusing

Can't be. At best, the amount of evidence is the same.

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Yes, yes it is hard. This isn't some movie man.

No it isn't, man.  It's real life man - accidents happen.  Especially in communist countries with bad regs and procedures.  How are we going to prove or disprove it was an accident?  LMAO, because China said this just happend?!?

Did I say China created any of those viruses?  Did I say all of those viruses were accidents?  You shouldn't try to mock other what other people think or write when you appear to struggle with both.

Go argue with the conspiracy nuts - you both deserve each other in your suspension of common sense.  I didn't claim or write anything you attributed to me in that post. That one or more of the 3 was a research containment accident is very plausible.  You certainly don't have any proof they weren't.

Nor did I imply the doctor was "silenced".  I said he identified the disease very early on, and then died from it.  Again, common sense to want to know more about someone obviously near ground zero of an outbreak.

posted by Laley23

There is more evidence that the moon landing was a hoax than what you are accusing. So, just be sure not to call people crazy or stupid for that line of conspiracy thinking in the future.

Another "slow" reader I see.  My apologies for not providing evidence to prove something I wasn't claiming.

I literally said there were "no markers indicating manipulation".  So I clearly wasn't claiming this was some test of a weaponized virus. 

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Yes, yes it is hard. This isn't some movie man. There is zero evidence that China was behind any of those viruses. Just because we see China as shady and we see a disease show up does not mean China created the thing in a lab.

I guess you believe the CIA created AIDS too because that has as much evidence as you are putting forth. 

How about the theory the doctor was silenced so the ones in power do not have to deal with the disease? China is big on censure and squashing bad news. There is far more evidence of that than your crazy bat shit theory. 

 

Chernobyl

Japan apparently closing schools until April.

posted by justincredible

Japan apparently closing schools until April.

Kids will not be happy in June.

We should be a little concerned, but the true issue is how many tens of thousands die for the normal flu each year. 35k-60K per year.....

Except the current Coronavirus death rate is 20 times higher than the common flu.

https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2020/02/28/pet-dog-in-hong-kong-tests-positive-for-coronavirus/

Holy shit......this virus is going to be tough to deal with if its jumping back to animals from humans.

I say the US shuts it all down.  Stop all travel, close the borders.  This is WWIII 

posted by Automatik

Except the current Coronavirus death rate is 20 times higher than the common flu.

SARS was over 11%!  Have seen some concerns this could be similar, because apparently coronavirus is the "base" of SARS.

Anyway, markets are down @15% and heading to full-on bear market territory.  My suspicion is it's a big buying opportunity, but if this does end-up grinding economies in the US and other developed countries to a halt then there's a huge economic hit.

Still, it's inconceivable to me that the long-term hit to value could be more than 5%.  The interesting angle - not to make this political as this is what market people are saying - is an economic hit increases the chance of Bernie winning the election, which would be a pretty big negative for markets.  But who knows....the markets could convince themselves that Bernie printing trillions of dollars is bullish.

I am getting ready, I think, to rotate out of fixed income (which has gotten a bump in the flight to safety) and back into equities in the next day or two.  Things calm down over the weekend and Monday could be a big market rally.

Listen to The Daily episode from yesterday. They talk to a disease expert, interesting stuff and definitely not uplifting.

posted by Automatik

Except the current Coronavirus death rate is 20 times higher than the common flu.

It's less than 3%. I mean seriously....fuck that lol.

Headed off next Saturday for 10 days in Europe...not even packing hand sanitizer. Hell, I might even lick a few handrails while I'm there lol.

posted by fish82

It's less than 3%. I mean seriously....fuck that lol.

Are you another who gets the bulk of your information from memes?

I'm not saying the sky is falling, but to just brush it off is flat out idiotic.

posted by Automatik

Are you another who gets the bulk of your information from memes?

I'm not saying the sky is falling, but to just brush it off is flat out idiotic.

I actually get it from the CDC, but thanks anyway lol.

Treatments will be far better here. We won't see anything approaching 3%.

As a us citizen aged 34 with good healthcare, I’m not personally worrying about impending death. However, I travel weekly and have a 10 month old. I’m at terrifyied of contracting it and passing it on to him.