LOCKED: Disgusted with progressives, part 2...

posted by Spock

I missed that

 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6170543/Video-shows-journalist-bravely-reporting-Hurricane-Florence-2-men-stroll-casually-past.html

posted by geeblock

 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6170543/Video-shows-journalist-bravely-reporting-Hurricane-Florence-2-men-stroll-casually-past.html

Media has truly become sad and pathetic with its sensationalism (when it's not just making shit up).

Didn't matter which channel you were watching, you could sense real disappointment as this storm started to weaken significantly long before making landfall.

posted by gut

Media has truly become sad and pathetic with its sensationalism (when it's not just making shit up).

Didn't matter which channel you were watching, you could sense real disappointment as this storm started to weaken significantly long before making landfall.

the media is disappointed that they dont get to blame Trump for the storm

Hahaha the democrats are all in on the now not anonymous woman saying that Kavanaugh tried to rape her in 1980 something. Get the fuck out. They still stand behind Ellison too. So obvious a show of bullshit.

posted by iclfan2

Hahaha the democrats are all in on the now not anonymous woman saying that Kavanaugh tried to rape her in 1980 something. Get the fuck out. They still stand behind Ellison too. So obvious a show of bullshit.

Again, let's note that she hasn't filed formal charges...hasn't filed a civil complaint.  In other words, she has not opened herself to slander or defamation recourse....or, alternatively, a smear without reprecussions.  My understanding is the FBI told all to go find themselves.

This left wing ploy to derail the Kavennah vote is ridiculous.  To drag out something 35 years ago is wrong.  

posted by Spock

This left wing ploy to derail the Kavennah vote is ridiculous.  To drag out something 35 years ago is wrong.  

Well, not if the accusation is true...

In many states, this would be past the statute of limitations.  Some states, such as Maryland (which I think is where this would have occurred?), have no statute of limitations for rape.

Story in WaPo has her husband and a therapist from 2012 verifying her recollection.  She provided notes from that therapy session.  She also passed a lie detector test.  I'm inclined to believe her.

posted by gut

Well, not if the accusation is true...

In many states, this would be past the statute of limitations.  Some states, such as Maryland (which I think is where this would have occurred?), have no statute of limitations for rape.

Story in WaPo has her husband and a therapist from 2012 verifying her recollection.  She provided notes from that therapy session.  She also passed a lie detector test.  I'm inclined to believe her.

I have serious doubts for one main reason. She's not looking to press charges and allow due process to happen. That in and of itself makes me believe she's only interested in political grandstanding and that this is nothing more than a political hashtag moment #Shenanigans#MeToo#MuhParty

I’m going to laugh my ass off if trump pulls kavanaugh and then nominates Barret.  That truly is something the left doesn’t want.

posted by gut

Well, not if the accusation is true...

In many states, this would be past the statute of limitations.  Some states, such as Maryland (which I think is where this would have occurred?), have no statute of limitations for rape.

Story in WaPo has her husband and a therapist from 2012 verifying her recollection.  She provided notes from that therapy session.  She also passed a lie detector test.  I'm inclined to believe her.

If Feinstein believed her she wouldn't have hid it for 8 weeks and not bring it up once at their hearings. That, and the fact that bringing something up from 40 years ago already makes it fishy, are why I don't believe her at all.  The therapy sessions also never mentioned any name of someone. And polygraphs have no basis of being accurate.

posted by CenterBHSFan

I have serious doubts for one main reason. She's not looking to press charges and allow due process to happen. 

That's where I was at, but now she's come forward and is willing to speak to Congress.  So she'll be questioned under oath.  The fact she talked about it in therapy 6 years ago makes it really tough to think it's made-up.

posted by like_that

I’m going to laugh my ass off if trump pulls kavanaugh and then nominates Barret.  That truly is something the left doesn’t want.

But if they have to nominate someone else, is there time to confirm them before the election?

posted by gut

But if they have to nominate someone else, is there time to confirm them before the election?

They could slam it through as fast as they want. But yea it's like an 8 week process if you do it "by the book". 

posted by iclfan2

If Feinstein believed her she wouldn't have hid it for 8 weeks and not bring it up once at their hearings. That, and the fact that bringing something up from 40 years ago already makes it fishy, are why I don't believe her at all.  The therapy sessions also never mentioned any name of someone. And polygraphs have no basis of being accurate.

Feinstein may have been waiting for some additional corroboration.  More likely, she sat on it intentionally so there wouldn't be enough time to confirm someone else before the election.

Now I believe the incident happened.  To say it wasn't Kavanaugh would mean this woman realized she could use that therapy session to manufacture a very elaborate hoax.  I'm naturally very skeptical, but even I can't go that far.

posted by gut

Feinstein may have been waiting for some additional corroboration.  More likely, she sat on it intentionally so there wouldn't be enough time to confirm someone else before the election.

Now I believe the incident happened.  To say it wasn't Kavanaugh would mean this woman realized she could use that therapy session to manufacture a very elaborate hoax.  I'm naturally very skeptical, but even I can't go that far.

Yeah, I've come to that conclusion as well. I've found myself recently not quickly judging any women's account of events. If she is willing to testify on the record, let her. Let's see how this goes. 

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Yeah, I've come to that conclusion as well. I've found myself recently not quickly judging any women's account of events. If she is willing to testify on the record, let her. Let's see how this goes. 

Screw that. Vote at the earliest possible moment. The delaying tactic is far more important than a grabbed titty in high school.

posted by queencitybuckeye

Screw that. Vote at the earliest possible moment. The delaying tactic is far more important that a grabbed titty in high school.

 

This is where I'm at. Republicans agreed there should be testimony, Dick Durbin says this week is too soon. MMk confirm him. We will never know if she is telling the truth (it is LITERALLY impossible) and does coming onto a girl while drunk at 17 really disqualify you when as an adult there are a ton of woman defending his character? And why is it that this random ass woman should be believed more? There will never be proof, it will always be he said she said.

https://thefederalistpapers.org/opinion/kavanaughs-accuser-dirty-little-secret

Interesting  …..motive

posted by iclfan2

... does coming onto a girl while drunk at 17 really disqualify you when as an adult there are a ton of woman defending his character? And why is it that this random ass woman should be believed more? There will never be proof, it will always be he said she said.

Well, the accusation is much more serious than you characterize it.  Not like he should go to jail, but perhaps it would disqualify one from SCOTUS.

Saw another guy she named [not accused] - his buddy - denies it happened.  But she's the one that made him a witness.  She also said, rather specifically, there were 4 guys at the party (therapist notes said 4 were in the room, which the woman said was a recording error).

So I don't know if there's a big unsolvable mystery here.  Can someone else confirm the party happened and who was there?  

posted by QuakerOats

https://thefederalistpapers.org/opinion/kavanaughs-accuser-dirty-little-secret

Interesting  …..motive

Fake news, again.