I haven’t seen 5-6 yet. But 1-4 have been disappointing to me given what it was billed as. Very little behind the scenes of the ‘98 season. I haven’t learned anything new yet, aside from a few interview tidbits. I want the raw footage this thing was supposedly “filled” with and the whole reason it took 20+ years for Jordan to finally “ok” its release.
We all know about the dream team. Bad boys. His early accomplishments. Rodman. Jerry Krause. Etc.
posted by Laley23I haven’t seen 5-6 yet. But 1-4 have been disappointing to me given what it was billed as. Very little behind the scenes of the ‘98 season. I haven’t learned anything new yet, aside from a few interview tidbits. I want the raw footage this thing was supposedly “filled” with and the whole reason it took 20+ years for Jordan to finally “ok” its release.
We all know about the dream team. Bad boys. His early accomplishments. Rodman. Jerry Krause. Etc.
You might be the only person in the country with this view.
posted by SpockYou might be the only person in the country with this view.
Isiah Thomas probably isnt liking it very well, but for different reasons.
posted by thavoiceIsiah Thomas probably isnt liking it very well, but for different reasons.
He agreed to be part of it...so I am sure he is fine with it.
posted by SpockYou might be the only person in the country with this view.
Simmons and Russilo have the same view. Not that they are the end all be all, but prominent voices in industry and have the same fandom that I do on Jordan. 2nd Favorite player growing up (Reggie). It’s just that I already knew all this or read about it all.
I just wanted more behind the scenes stuff that this was billed as. It’s been a great documentary, but I already knew everything. I read and watched an insane amount of basketball when I was aged 7-15 (93-2001). Jordan was everything and I watched all the highlights and taped all the games. Read all the articles and clippings. Just thought we’d get more unseen footage and more unknown stories.
Ive heard Dream Team and Ep. 7 are fantastic and have more of what I am expecting. So really looking forward to that. I’m enjoying the whole thing tremendously. I fucking love Jordan. Just disappointed in what everyone told me it was going to be about. I legit expected a bit of background and then like 8 episodes of ‘98 footage.
posted by Laley23Simmons and Russilo have the same view. Not that they are the end all be all, but prominent voices in industry and have the same fandom that I do on Jordan. 2nd Favorite player growing up (Reggie). It’s just that I already knew all this or read about it all.
I just wanted more behind the scenes stuff that this was billed as. It’s been a great documentary, but I already knew everything. I read and watched an insane amount of basketball when I was aged 7-15 (93-2001). Jordan was everything and I watched all the highlights and taped all the games. Read all the articles and clippings. Just thought we’d get more unseen footage and more unknown stories.
Ive heard Dream Team and Ep. 7 are fantastic and have more of what I am expecting. So really looking forward to that. I’m enjoying the whole thing tremendously. I fucking love Jordan. Just disappointed in what everyone told me it was going to be about. I legit expected a bit of background and then like 8 episodes of ‘98 footage.
That's fair. I'm in the same boat as you as I knew a lot of this, but was actually looking forward to this as I wanted to revisit all of this. I want to be reminded how epic and great that team is.
The only real things I have learned so far was some of the early Jordan stuff and some of the stories/ rumors that were confirmed from Jordan himself. Like his stuff on Isiah was good. His comments about Pippen was enlightening too. I've also heard Ep 7 and 8 are great.
I don't GAF if I know it all or not. I absolutely love it.
posted by ernest_t_bassI don't GAF if I know it all or not. I absolutely love it.
This lol.
Laley’s comments legit make no sense.
posted by SportsAndLadyThis lol.
Laley’s comments legit make no sense.
He wants to see more behind the scenes footage of the 1998 season, because MJ has been holding onto the footage for over 20 years. What doesn't make sense about that?
I am enjoying the documentary and it is fun to relive his entire career, but I do agree with Laley's point. I wouldn't say I have been disappointed, but I felt like there was something missing and couldn't quite put my finger on it, until I saw Laley's post.
posted by like_thatHe wants to see more behind the scenes footage of the 1998 season, because MJ has been holding onto the footage for over 20 years. What doesn't make sense about that?
I am enjoying the documentary and it is fun to relive his entire career, but I do agree with Laley's point. I wouldn't say I have been disappointed, but I felt like there was something missing and couldn't quite put my finger on it, until I saw Laley's post.
Its not hard to see the direction it is going.....before you dismiss the whole thing because you want more footage.....give it time. Eventually you will get what you seek. Then he can insert his foot in his mouth.
posted by like_thatHe wants to see more behind the scenes footage of the 1998 season, because MJ has been holding onto the footage for over 20 years. What doesn't make sense about that?
I am enjoying the documentary and it is fun to relive his entire career, but I do agree with Laley's point. I wouldn't say I have been disappointed, but I felt like there was something missing and couldn't quite put my finger on it, until I saw Laley's post.
There’s been plenty of footage.
posted by SportsAndLadyThere’s been plenty of footage.
Episode 6 had some more, but they pretty much breezed thru the entire regular season in terms of 98' footage. There have been some highlights from the released footage, but overall nothing too revealing. I am hoping we get to see much more candid footage during the playoffs. It would be nice to see how tense everyone was during the ECF series, especially after Miller hit that game winner.
I think it’s been excellent. I’ve enjoyed how they’ve done it.
posted by Ironman92I think it’s been excellent. I’ve enjoyed how they’ve done it.
Same. Feel like people just like to bitch about shit that everyone universally agrees is great.
I haven't really learned anything new, but I have enjoyed every minute of it.
posted by SportsAndLadySame. Feel like people just like to bitch about shit that everyone universally agrees is great.
You're taking this hard. Thoughts and prayers.
It’s been great, imo. I feel like MJ is really being honest about things. I think some of what he says is embellished a little, but still pretty honest.
posted by SportsAndLadySame. Feel like people just like to bitch about shit that everyone universally agrees is great.
Its been very well made and Ive enjoyed every second. I can still be disappointed.
People have been talking this up for over a decade about the days and days worth of footage the crew got during 1998. Yet, we have seen probably less than an hour of it. With 4 to go, we still have to go through Seattle, Jazz 1 before only thing left is 1998. I dont know how much they are going to show, but for the hype about that footage, its been really minuscule. Did we really need an entire Rodman episode? Did we need the Bad Boys 30 for 30 inter-spliced in this? I would take more security guard gambling and locker room cigars and golf course hangouts 100 times out of 100 than have them re-hash the Pistons walking off the court again.
I loved the Dream Team episode, because I love the Dream Team and episode 6 was much better than 1-5 on the 1998 stuff. But it is still really lacking for the amount they have.
posted by Laley23Its been very well made and Ive enjoyed every second. I can still be disappointed.
People have been talking this up for over a decade about the days and days worth of footage the crew got during 1998. Yet, we have seen probably less than an hour of it. With 4 to go, we still have to go through Seattle, Jazz 1 before only thing left is 1998. I dont know how much they are going to show, but for the hype about that footage, its been really minuscule. Did we really need an entire Rodman episode? Did we need the Bad Boys 30 for 30 inter-spliced in this? I would take more security guard gambling and locker room cigars and golf course hangouts 100 times out of 100 than have them re-hash the Pistons walking off the court again.
I loved the Dream Team episode, because I love the Dream Team and episode 6 was much better than 1-5 on the 1998 stuff. But it is still really lacking for the amount they have.
Personal preferences for sure. The Pistons hump was huge and worthy of the time it was given. I’ve never heard much about the goings on behind the scenes of 1997-98. Security guard gambling and crappy golf play/gamblings are the right amount for me. I haven’t heard the hype of this prior to 6 months ago. No doubt they are making these to please the most viewers and still tell the story. Rodman didn’t get a whole episode but agree a bit less would’ve been enough. I’ll guess you already knew more on this stuff than 99.5% of the people watching....that’s asking for some minor letdowns. I’d guess if you knew less you’d enjoy it even more 🤷🏻♂️.
posted by Ironman92Personal preferences for sure. The Pistons hump was huge and worthy of the time it was given. I’ve never heard much about the goings on behind the scenes of 1997-98. Security guard gambling and crappy golf play/gamblings are the right amount for me. I haven’t heard the hype of this prior to 6 months ago. No doubt they are making these to please the most viewers and still tell the story. Rodman didn’t get a whole episode but agree a bit less would’ve been enough. I’ll guess you already knew more on this stuff than 99.5% of the people watching....that’s asking for some minor letdowns. I’d guess if you knew less you’d enjoy it even more 🤷🏻♂️.
My Brother-in-law and father-in-law feel the same as me. Same with a lot of my Chicago friends. But they grew up here and watched it all transpire live.
For a lot on here, it would be like someone filming the Cavs/LeBron for all of 2015-16. Everyone knows its being filmed. But then LeBron says the footage wont come out. Then 10 years later he grants the rights to interview people about it all. Some stuff leaks, and the hype grows. Then he grants the rights for the documentary to be finalized. Then finally, after saying it wont be, he allows it to all be released.
We are all insanely hyped for it, and then they make us sit through an episode focusing on his HS years, then his first 4 in Cleveland. Then an entire episode on the Decision. Then an Olympics episode. And then the Warriors beating them. Then maybe for the last 4 we get the behind the scenes stuff we didnt witness in real time. The locker-room talks during the finals. The dinners they went on as a team. The drive that LeBron took with his wife back through his old neighboorhood. All that shit.
This is mostly great for the interviews thus far. Because we are getting some answers and some honesty from a lot of people who never talked before. But man, I could sit there and watch Jordan in the lockerroom for an entire episode chatting with his teammates pre-game, halftime, post-game. I didnt need his UNC stuff in there, or Pistons, or Rodman, or even the Krause tearing it all down stuff. All that could've been mentioned and given 10-15 minutes on.
