Protests, Riots, Police trashiness cont.

QuakerOats Senior Member
11,701 posts 66 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Jan 14, 2021 2:49 PM

“Endless suits have been brought to change the election rules set by state legislatures.” Three judges on the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals offered that assessment on Oct. 20. “This pervasive jockeying threatens to undermine public confidence in our elections. And the constant court battles make a mockery of the Constitution’s explicit delegation of this power to the state legislatures.”

 

Nearly four months later, after thousands of ballots had been cast under the rules set in June, the state elections board entered into a secretive agreement with Democratic activists. The agreement changed election rules. The board’s actions “draped a shroud of uncertainty” over this state’s elections, according to the 4th Circuit dissenters, threatening “even greater turbulence” if the rule changes were allowed to stand. “This chaos must end.”

“The victim of a last-minute interference, whatever its source, is the same: a federal election,” the 4th Circuit dissenters noted. “It is a difficult enough task to conduct an election in the middle of a pandemic without proliferating lawsuits and constantly changing rules.”

“Whenever interference occurs, it incentivizes an avalanche of partisan and destabilizing litigation against election rules duly enacted by state legislatures,” they added.

“This phenomenon is hardly unique to North Carolina,” the dissenters warned. “Around the country, courts are changing the rules of the upcoming elections at the last minute. It makes the promise of the Constitution’s Elections and Electors Clauses into a farce. It disrespects the Supreme Court’s repeated and clear command not to interfere so late in the day. This pernicious pattern is making the courts appear partisan, destabilizing federal elections, and undermining the power of the people to choose representatives to set election rules.”

https://www.carolinajournal.com/opinion-article/high-courts-punt-paves-way-for-future-legal-battles-over-elections/

 

 

Democrats are generally pushing for the widest voting possible, demanding mail-balloting, extended windows to cast and count those ballots and fewer fraud checks such as signature-matching or witnesses to verify that ballots are cast legitimately.

 

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/oct/25/election-lawsuits-break-record-votes-counted/

 

 

 

And on and on and on ………….

·  Pre-election lawsuits related to the 2020 United States ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-election...

22 rows · Litigation was initiated by Democrats, seeking measures to ease voting, and Republicans, seeking to block such measures. [1] [2] [3] "[O]ver 230 election-related federal lawsuits were filed from January 1 to October 23, higher than any of the past three presidential election years during the same time period", according to a USA Today analysis. [2]

  •  

STATE

FIRST FILING DATE

CASE

COURT

Arizona

September 30, 2020

 

U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit

Arizona

June 10, 2020

Arizona Democratic P…

U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit

California

June 11, 2020

Gallagher v. Newsom

California Superior Court, County of Sutter

Georgia

May 8, 2020

The New Georgia Proj…

U.S. District Court for the Northern Distric…

·  Most highly litigated election in US history enters final ...

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/...

Nov 03, 2020 · A common theme emerged in the pre-election litigation: Democrats and their allies sought accommodations across the country for voters, like …

·  Election lawsuits break record before votes counted ...

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/oct/25/...

Oct 26, 2020 · Other lawsuits are over in-person voting, postponements and the like. But the biggest chunk — about 230 cases — involve mail-in voting, said Jerrick Adams , Ballotpedia’s ballot expert.

·  Voting-related Lawsuits Pepper US before Election Day ...

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/US-Election-2020...

Oct 10, 2020 · Hundreds of lawsuits about voting have been filed before the Nov. 3 election. The cases concern the fundamentals of the American democratic process, including how ballots are cast and counted. A look at some of the top lawsuits in battleground states:ARIZONA: A federal...

·  Federal election lawsuits have already set a ... - USA TODAY

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/10/...

Oct 30, 2020 · Lawsuits initiated by Democrats and advocacy groups have accused Republican election officials of purposefully curtailing the vote for constituencies that don't support them. In Minnesota, several ...

·  Voting-related lawsuits pepper US before Election Day ...

https://www.timesrepublican.com/news/todays-news/...

Hundreds of lawsuits about voting have been filed before the Nov. 3 election. The cases concern the fundamentals of the American democratic process, including how ballots are cast and counted. A ...

·  High court's punt paves way for future legal battles over ...

https://www.carolinajournal.com/opinion-article/...

The problem was bad enough when the 4th Circuit dissenters issued their opinion, citing 385 election-related lawsuits filed across the country. A mere three days later, the number had jumped to 411 lawsuits. That was the figure cited in an Oct. 23 brief from national election-integrity group True the Vote.

·  CONFIRMED: Democrats and Leftie Attorney Marc Elias Just ...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/09/confirmed...

Sep 24, 2020 · Basically, it looks like the corrupt liberal lawyer, Marc Elias from Perkins Coie, is leading Democrats in their lawsuits around the country. The Democrats are suing all of the battleground states to change their election laws. Elias was working together with the Democrat NC Attorney General and the Democrat controlled board of elections (BOE).

gut Senior Member
18,369 posts 115 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Jan 14, 2021 2:51 PM

I wonder how long before the FBI comes for QO...

friendfromlowry Senior Member
7,778 posts 86 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Jan 14, 2021 3:06 PM
posted by QuakerOats

“Endless suits have been brought to change the election rules set by state legislatures.” Three judges on the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals offered that assessment on Oct. 20. “This pervasive jockeying threatens to undermine public confidence in our elections. And the constant court battles make a mockery of the Constitution’s explicit delegation of this power to the state legislatures.”

 

Nearly four months later, after thousands of ballots had been cast under the rules set in June, the state elections board entered into a secretive agreement with Democratic activists. The agreement changed election rules. The board’s actions “draped a shroud of uncertainty” over this state’s elections, according to the 4th Circuit dissenters, threatening “even greater turbulence” if the rule changes were allowed to stand. “This chaos must end.”

“The victim of a last-minute interference, whatever its source, is the same: a federal election,” the 4th Circuit dissenters noted. “It is a difficult enough task to conduct an election in the middle of a pandemic without proliferating lawsuits and constantly changing rules.”

“Whenever interference occurs, it incentivizes an avalanche of partisan and destabilizing litigation against election rules duly enacted by state legislatures,” they added.

“This phenomenon is hardly unique to North Carolina,” the dissenters warned. “Around the country, courts are changing the rules of the upcoming elections at the last minute. It makes the promise of the Constitution’s Elections and Electors Clauses into a farce. It disrespects the Supreme Court’s repeated and clear command not to interfere so late in the day. This pernicious pattern is making the courts appear partisan, destabilizing federal elections, and undermining the power of the people to choose representatives to set election rules.”

https://www.carolinajournal.com/opinion-article/high-courts-punt-paves-way-for-future-legal-battles-over-elections/

 

 

Democrats are generally pushing for the widest voting possible, demanding mail-balloting, extended windows to cast and count those ballots and fewer fraud checks such as signature-matching or witnesses to verify that ballots are cast legitimately.

 

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/oct/25/election-lawsuits-break-record-votes-counted/

 

 

 

And on and on and on ………….

·  Pre-election lawsuits related to the 2020 United States ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-election...

22 rows · Litigation was initiated by Democrats, seeking measures to ease voting, and Republicans, seeking to block such measures. [1] [2] [3] "[O]ver 230 election-related federal lawsuits were filed from January 1 to October 23, higher than any of the past three presidential election years during the same time period", according to a USA Today analysis. [2]

  •  

STATE

FIRST FILING DATE

CASE

COURT

Arizona

September 30, 2020

 

U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit

Arizona

June 10, 2020

Arizona Democratic P…

U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit

California

June 11, 2020

Gallagher v. Newsom

California Superior Court, County of Sutter

Georgia

May 8, 2020

The New Georgia Proj…

U.S. District Court for the Northern Distric…

·  Most highly litigated election in US history enters final ...

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/...

Nov 03, 2020 · A common theme emerged in the pre-election litigation: Democrats and their allies sought accommodations across the country for voters, like …

·  Election lawsuits break record before votes counted ...

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/oct/25/...

Oct 26, 2020 · Other lawsuits are over in-person voting, postponements and the like. But the biggest chunk — about 230 cases — involve mail-in voting, said Jerrick Adams , Ballotpedia’s ballot expert.

·  Voting-related Lawsuits Pepper US before Election Day ...

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/US-Election-2020...

Oct 10, 2020 · Hundreds of lawsuits about voting have been filed before the Nov. 3 election. The cases concern the fundamentals of the American democratic process, including how ballots are cast and counted. A look at some of the top lawsuits in battleground states:ARIZONA: A federal...

·  Federal election lawsuits have already set a ... - USA TODAY

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/10/...

Oct 30, 2020 · Lawsuits initiated by Democrats and advocacy groups have accused Republican election officials of purposefully curtailing the vote for constituencies that don't support them. In Minnesota, several ...

·  Voting-related lawsuits pepper US before Election Day ...

https://www.timesrepublican.com/news/todays-news/...

Hundreds of lawsuits about voting have been filed before the Nov. 3 election. The cases concern the fundamentals of the American democratic process, including how ballots are cast and counted. A ...

·  High court's punt paves way for future legal battles over ...

https://www.carolinajournal.com/opinion-article/...

The problem was bad enough when the 4th Circuit dissenters issued their opinion, citing 385 election-related lawsuits filed across the country. A mere three days later, the number had jumped to 411 lawsuits. That was the figure cited in an Oct. 23 brief from national election-integrity group True the Vote.

·  CONFIRMED: Democrats and Leftie Attorney Marc Elias Just ...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/09/confirmed...

Sep 24, 2020 · Basically, it looks like the corrupt liberal lawyer, Marc Elias from Perkins Coie, is leading Democrats in their lawsuits around the country. The Democrats are suing all of the battleground states to change their election laws. Elias was working together with the Democrat NC Attorney General and the Democrat controlled board of elections (BOE).

Tl;dr. Biden’s president. 

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
29,228 posts 321 reps Joined Apr 2010
Thu, Jan 14, 2021 3:35 PM

QO is BACK.

QuakerOats Senior Member
11,701 posts 66 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Jan 14, 2021 5:08 PM

Just a few inconvenient facts. 

jmog Senior Member
7,737 posts 50 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Jan 14, 2021 5:13 PM
posted by Fab4Runner

Perhaps there should be consequences for lying about a free and fair election for two months, and then inciting a violent insurrection. 

I agree, but what consequences did the democrats and media face for lying about a free and fair election of 2016 for 3.5 years and inciting violence over it?


Just curious if you had the same belief when they did it for the last 4 years?




Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
3,345 posts 35 reps Joined Oct 2010
Thu, Jan 14, 2021 5:55 PM
posted by QuakerOats

“Endless suits have been brought to change the election rules set by state legislatures.” Three judges on the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals offered that assessment on Oct. 20. “This pervasive jockeying threatens to undermine public confidence in our elections. And the constant court battles make a mockery of the Constitution’s explicit delegation of this power to the state legislatures.”

 

Nearly four months later, after thousands of ballots had been cast under the rules set in June, the state elections board entered into a secretive agreement with Democratic activists. The agreement changed election rules. The board’s actions “draped a shroud of uncertainty” over this state’s elections, according to the 4th Circuit dissenters, threatening “even greater turbulence” if the rule changes were allowed to stand. “This chaos must end.”

“The victim of a last-minute interference, whatever its source, is the same: a federal election,” the 4th Circuit dissenters noted. “It is a difficult enough task to conduct an election in the middle of a pandemic without proliferating lawsuits and constantly changing rules.”

“Whenever interference occurs, it incentivizes an avalanche of partisan and destabilizing litigation against election rules duly enacted by state legislatures,” they added.

“This phenomenon is hardly unique to North Carolina,” the dissenters warned. “Around the country, courts are changing the rules of the upcoming elections at the last minute. It makes the promise of the Constitution’s Elections and Electors Clauses into a farce. It disrespects the Supreme Court’s repeated and clear command not to interfere so late in the day. This pernicious pattern is making the courts appear partisan, destabilizing federal elections, and undermining the power of the people to choose representatives to set election rules.”

https://www.carolinajournal.com/opinion-article/high-courts-punt-paves-way-for-future-legal-battles-over-elections/

 

 

Democrats are generally pushing for the widest voting possible, demanding mail-balloting, extended windows to cast and count those ballots and fewer fraud checks such as signature-matching or witnesses to verify that ballots are cast legitimately.

 

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/oct/25/election-lawsuits-break-record-votes-counted/

 

 

 

And on and on and on ………….

·  Pre-election lawsuits related to the 2020 United States ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-election...

22 rows · Litigation was initiated by Democrats, seeking measures to ease voting, and Republicans, seeking to block such measures. [1] [2] [3] "[O]ver 230 election-related federal lawsuits were filed from January 1 to October 23, higher than any of the past three presidential election years during the same time period", according to a USA Today analysis. [2]

  •  

STATE

FIRST FILING DATE

CASE

COURT

Arizona

September 30, 2020

 

U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit

Arizona

June 10, 2020

Arizona Democratic P…

U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit

California

June 11, 2020

Gallagher v. Newsom

California Superior Court, County of Sutter

Georgia

May 8, 2020

The New Georgia Proj…

U.S. District Court for the Northern Distric…

·  Most highly litigated election in US history enters final ...

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/...

Nov 03, 2020 · A common theme emerged in the pre-election litigation: Democrats and their allies sought accommodations across the country for voters, like …

·  Election lawsuits break record before votes counted ...

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/oct/25/...

Oct 26, 2020 · Other lawsuits are over in-person voting, postponements and the like. But the biggest chunk — about 230 cases — involve mail-in voting, said Jerrick Adams , Ballotpedia’s ballot expert.

·  Voting-related Lawsuits Pepper US before Election Day ...

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/US-Election-2020...

Oct 10, 2020 · Hundreds of lawsuits about voting have been filed before the Nov. 3 election. The cases concern the fundamentals of the American democratic process, including how ballots are cast and counted. A look at some of the top lawsuits in battleground states:ARIZONA: A federal...

·  Federal election lawsuits have already set a ... - USA TODAY

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/10/...

Oct 30, 2020 · Lawsuits initiated by Democrats and advocacy groups have accused Republican election officials of purposefully curtailing the vote for constituencies that don't support them. In Minnesota, several ...

·  Voting-related lawsuits pepper US before Election Day ...

https://www.timesrepublican.com/news/todays-news/...

Hundreds of lawsuits about voting have been filed before the Nov. 3 election. The cases concern the fundamentals of the American democratic process, including how ballots are cast and counted. A ...

·  High court's punt paves way for future legal battles over ...

https://www.carolinajournal.com/opinion-article/...

The problem was bad enough when the 4th Circuit dissenters issued their opinion, citing 385 election-related lawsuits filed across the country. A mere three days later, the number had jumped to 411 lawsuits. That was the figure cited in an Oct. 23 brief from national election-integrity group True the Vote.

·  CONFIRMED: Democrats and Leftie Attorney Marc Elias Just ...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/09/confirmed...

Sep 24, 2020 · Basically, it looks like the corrupt liberal lawyer, Marc Elias from Perkins Coie, is leading Democrats in their lawsuits around the country. The Democrats are suing all of the battleground states to change their election laws. Elias was working together with the Democrat NC Attorney General and the Democrat controlled board of elections (BOE).

Besides the USA Today article which merely says that there have been a lot of lawsuits from the left and right, the rest of these are sourced from not-always-reliable right wing sites.  I looked up one - True the Vote.  My favorite part of their organization is their Pray the Vote campaign - to count the number of prayers being offered for voters and fair elections.  The prayer tracker is particularly helpful.  That topic is confusing right now though.  Pat Robertson - one of many televangelists who said that God told him that Trump would win the election - recently said that Trump is living in an alternate universe and it is time for him to leave.  That's a big admission on Pat's part considering how God has previously told him all along that Trump was his Chosen One who was going to lead the US away from its sins.  So the Pray the Vote effort seems particularly trying now, at a time where God Himself cannot seem to decide who should win the election.  

BRF Senior Member
11,621 posts 107 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Jan 14, 2021 6:12 PM
posted by friendfromlowry

Tl;dr. 

Me, too. 
Heretic Son of the Sun
20,517 posts 202 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Jan 14, 2021 6:36 PM
posted by friendfromlowry

Tl;dr. Biden’s president. 

Don't worry -- using the Obama terms as precedent, he'll find many a thing to shift his whining to over the next few years, so he can have a new complaint every single day. It's what he does best: Impotent Tears.

Fletch Member
0 posts 3 reps Joined Nov 2020
Thu, Jan 14, 2021 9:30 PM

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/left-wing-activist-charged-in-capitol-riot


Who posted that BLM had no fingerprint on the capital protest?

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Thu, Jan 14, 2021 10:02 PM

GOONx19 An exceptional poster.
7,413 posts 94 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Jan 15, 2021 8:43 AM
posted by Fletch

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/left-wing-activist-charged-in-capitol-riot


Who posted that BLM had no fingerprint on the capital protest?

Thank goodness they got the leader of this thing! I’m glad he’s facing charges. You can tell from the pictures and quotes that he’s a real charismatic influencer. It’s too bad that Trump’s supporters were tricked into following him to DC with the zip ties and pipe bombs. 


Fletch Member
0 posts 3 reps Joined Nov 2020
Fri, Jan 15, 2021 11:11 AM
posted by GOONx19

Thank goodness they got the leader of this thing! I’m glad he’s facing charges. You can tell from the pictures and quotes that he’s a real charismatic influencer. It’s too bad that Trump’s supporters were tricked into following him to DC with the zip ties and pipe bombs. 


I know you are being sarcastic but there has not been one drip of evidence to prove that those rioters (that looked a lot like Antifa in their back military outfits) were Maga.  You levy the complaint, you are the one too have to prove it, not the trumpsters.


Also noticed a lot of backpack wearing millennials in the crowd.  Maga?


queencitybuckeye Senior Member
8,068 posts 120 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Jan 15, 2021 11:21 AM
posted by Fletch

I know you are being sarcastic but there has not been one drip of evidence to prove that those rioters (that looked a lot like Antifa in their back military outfits) were Maga.  You levy the complaint, you are the one too have to prove it, not the trumpsters.


Also noticed a lot of backpack wearing millennials in the crowd.  Maga?


Not conclusive proof, but the Trumpkin crowd posting sets of pictures of an Antifa idiot and someone who looks similar and attempting to pass them off as the same person (they are not in at least four cases I've seen) is certainly evidence.


I've still not seen a reasonable motive for people from the left crashing what was a victory party for their side.

8,788 posts 20 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Jan 15, 2021 11:58 AM
posted by Fletch

I know you are being sarcastic but there has not been one drip of evidence to prove that those rioters (that looked a lot like Antifa in their back military outfits) were Maga.  You levy the complaint, you are the one too have to prove it, not the trumpsters.


Also noticed a lot of backpack wearing millennials in the crowd.  Maga?


LOL, maybe in your world. I think all of the other FBI arrests and indictments contradict your posts. 


geeblock Member
1,123 posts 0 reps Joined May 2018
Fri, Jan 15, 2021 12:31 PM
posted by Fletch

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/left-wing-activist-charged-in-capitol-riot


Who posted that BLM had no fingerprint on the capital protest?

So can we start saying MAGA + BLM everytime we say MAGA now the way everyone on here says ANTIFA everytime they say BLM? 


MAGA and BLM has a nice ring to it.

Verbal Kint Senior Member
1,062 posts 16 reps Joined Jul 2017
Fri, Jan 15, 2021 12:39 PM
posted by jmog

I agree, but what consequences did the democrats and media face for lying about a free and fair election of 2016 for 3.5 years and inciting violence over it?


Just curious if you had the same belief when they did it for the last 4 years?




Lol, you think rationale thinking will supersede hypocracy? 
Spock Senior Member
5,271 posts 9 reps Joined Jul 2013
Fri, Jan 15, 2021 1:22 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

LOL, maybe in your world. I think all of the other FBI arrests and indictments contradict your posts. 


The flaw in your logic is you believe the corrupt FBI

Heretic Son of the Sun
20,517 posts 202 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Jan 15, 2021 1:34 PM


posted by Fletch

I know you are being sarcastic but there has not been one drip of evidence to prove that those rioters (that looked a lot like Antifa in their back military outfits) were Maga.  You levy the complaint, you are the one too have to prove it, not the trumpsters.


Also noticed a lot of backpack wearing millennials in the crowd.  Maga?


The "not one drip of evidence" bit is kind of hilarious, considering that, with all the arrests that have happened, it's pretty easy to find out that people busted includes: a Proud Boys president/chapter leader/whatever, a few known QAnon adherents and a West Virginia Republican office-holder.

And the "you levy the complaint, you are the one who needs to prove it" bit is also kind of funny, considering this event happened because Trump levied a complaint and his attempts to prove it resulted in his legal team having a comically horrible win-loss record in the court system, leading to a bunch of yahoos throwing a fit because reality didn't meet their expectations.


8,788 posts 20 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Jan 15, 2021 1:54 PM
posted by Spock

The flaw in your logic is you believe the corrupt FBI

Yeah. I know they are part of the deep state. 


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