posted by BR1986FBThe one thing I will say about Jim Brown, that points to a bit of hypocrisy, is that he's spouting off about country, etc yet he was one of the ones supporting Ali dodging Vietnam.
Government != Country. The government got it wrong.
posted by Dr Winston O'BoogieI have no problem with anything you say. I just don't understand why someone isn't allowed to believe differently than that without being crushed. I hated it when Trump and others blasted Kapernick for his protest. But the people who hated that are the same ones crucifying Drew Brees because he doesn't see it their way. That's 1984 style groupthink.
I get it. I have friends who have that opinion and we just agree not to discuss it. I think the general public being outraged is overkill but I think his teammates and friends are going to be upset not over his opinion but over his tone def lack of awareness that his memory of his papaw in ww2 is more important to him than what is happening to them and their families. He works at a job that is 70% black so I mean with the amount of time those guys spend together I’m sure they were hurt.
posted by Dr Winston O'BoogieI have no problem with anything you say. I just don't understand why someone isn't allowed to believe differently than that without being crushed. I hated it when Trump and others blasted Kapernick for his protest. But the people who hated that are the same ones crucifying Drew Brees because he doesn't see it their way. That's 1984 style groupthink.
This is how things work in this era. 2 sides to everything and each side blasts the other on social media for their opinions. Won't be changing any time soon unfortunately.
posted by geeblockI get it. I have friends who have that opinion and we just agree not to discuss it. I think the general public being outraged is overkill but I think his teammates and friends are going to be upset not over his opinion but over his tone def lack of awareness that his memory of his papaw in ww2 is more important to him than what is happening to them and their families. He works at a job that is 70% black so I mean with the amount of time those guys spend together I’m sure they were hurt.
I agree his timing was terrible. He was asked a question where he could have said, "You know what, we have a lot more important topics to worry about today than that."
posted by Dr Winston O'BoogieI agree his timing was terrible. He was asked a question where he could have said, "You know what, we have a lot more important topics to worry about today than that."
Meh. It would have been better but only slightly.
posted by geeblockI get it. I have friends who have that opinion and we just agree not to discuss it. I think the general public being outraged is overkill but I think his teammates and friends are going to be upset not over his opinion but over his tone def lack of awareness that his memory of his papaw in ww2 is more important to him than what is happening to them and their families. He works at a job that is 70% black so I mean with the amount of time those guys spend together I’m sure they were hurt.
I agree with that. To me, the fact random Twitter people are outraged AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE OUTRAGED means nothing because right now, on both sides of the political spectrum, we're living in an era where weaponized outrage is the main form of "debate" on social media (fuck, I saw something unbelievably stupid even by Twitter standards when people were blasting actress Emma Watson for customizing her black box deal to her Instagram feed Tuesday or something like that...).
I was surprised by his statement because it came off as tone deaf to all those teammates in a "I wouldn't do it and they shouldn't, too" sort of way where why they're upset and would want to potentially kneel/protest wasn't even remotely resonating with him. Seems it would have been far better for him to have said something along the lines of how he personally isn't comfortable with kneeling due to his family and military service, but that not everyone has the same feelings that he does and in the wake of events and how he knows a lot of people, including teammates, who are upset by them, he feels it's more important right now to listen to them and do what he can to help because this isn't about him right now. Doesn't have to be something super-woke or whatnot; just that he cares about how his teammates are feeling about current events and will support them as much as he can.
posted by HereticI agree with that. To me, the fact random Twitter people are outraged AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE OUTRAGED means nothing because right now, on both sides of the political spectrum, we're living in an era where weaponized outrage is the main form of "debate" on social media (fuck, I saw something unbelievably stupid even by Twitter standards when people were blasting actress Emma Watson for customizing her black box deal to her Instagram feed Tuesday or something like that...).
I was surprised by his statement because it came off as tone deaf to all those teammates in a "I wouldn't do it and they shouldn't, too" sort of way where why they're upset and would want to potentially kneel/protest wasn't even remotely resonating with him. Seems it would have been far better for him to have said something along the lines of how he personally isn't comfortable with kneeling due to his family and military service, but that not everyone has the same feelings that he does and in the wake of events and how he knows a lot of people, including teammates, who are upset by them, he feels it's more important right now to listen to them and do what he can to help because this isn't about him right now. Doesn't have to be something super-woke or whatnot; just that he cares about how his teammates are feeling about current events and will support them as much as he can.
That would have came off better. I won’t kneel but I support them kneeling. I’m definitely not a fan of forcing someone into a movement they aren’t into but I probably stop short of feeling sorry for him.
Let's look at it this way, at the rate we're going, we will all be cancelled eventually. Everyone screws up sooner or later.
posted by Dr Winston O'BoogieLet's look at it this way, at the rate we're going, we will all be cancelled eventually. Everyone screws up sooner or later.
I don’t think it’s all doom and gloom it’s not that hard really
posted by geeblockI don’t think it’s all doom and gloom it’s not that hard really
Nvm I just uninvited my fiancé’s brother to the wedding
posted by geeblockNvm I just uninvited my fiancé’s brother to the wedding
posted by friendfromlowry
Yea. Basically her sisters banned also but I didn’t notify her on a Facebook post🤦♀️
posted by geeblockYea. Basically her sisters banned also but I didn’t notify her on a Facebook post🤦♀️
I am here for the story
posted by geeblockYou absolutely passed judgement on who is allowed to have an opinion and who is an actual activist and who does work in their community.
No I didn't. I simply said people who served and their families might have a legitimate reason to disagree with the protest on several levels. I never said one side was wrong or not entitled to their opinion. I DID say some people are virtue signaling - and they are, on both sides. You're the one who picked a side. And let me explain something to you - just because YOU disassociate the anthem from the flag doesn't mean other people have to.
Only a fucking poser would say "what has Jim Brown done in the last 20 years?!?". He's 84 years old, JFC if a white guy said what you said about Jim Brown..
posted by gutNo I didn't. I simply said people who served and their families might have a legitimate reason to disagree with the protest on several levels. I never said one side was wrong or not entitled to their opinion. I DID say some people are virtue signaling - and they are, on both sides. You're the one who picked a side. And let me explain something to you - just because YOU disassociate the anthem from the flag doesn't mean other people have to.
Only a fucking poser would say "what has Jim Brown done in the last 20 years?!?". He's 84 years old, JFC if a white guy said what you said about Jim Brown..
I didn’t bring up Jim brown at 84 years old someone else did? His opinion was used as relevant. So either he is too old to speak or he has just chosen not too. I’m 47 years old and besides him being my dads favorite person I haven’t heard his name since high school. Just being honest. I have no problem with him except I hate the browns
posted by geeblockI didn’t bring up Jim brown at 84 years old someone else did? His opinion was used as relevant. So either he is too old to speak or he has just chosen not too. I’m 47 years old and besides him being my dads favorite person I haven’t heard his name since high school. Just being honest. I have no problem with him except I hate the browns
Don’t even respond to gut. He’s never wrong, you’re always wrong and an idiot, and he knows everything about everything.
Also, Jim Brown is a piece of shit woman beater. Fuck him. (As a big browns fan)
posted by SportsAndLady
Also, Jim Brown is a piece of shit woman beater. Fuck him. (As a big browns fan)
I have struggled with this knowledge, as a big Browns fan also.
posted by iclfan2I am here for the story
It’s a long story but here is a sneak peek
So Jason’s a drunk?
I am so sick of people throwing the word racism on everything.
Do these protestors realize that most of the cities they are in have black mayors, city councils that have more black members then white and black police chief's?
Oh and they are all democrats?
