Covid-19 discussion, continued...

Oddly worded headline but good news.

NEW POLL: Increasing number of Americans, including Black people, would take COVID vaccine https://t.co/S9r5J5479a pic.twitter.com/N4YoKC36Ti

— The Hill (@thehill) December 16, 2020

Sitting at home on day 3 of not being able to taste or smell.  Headaches and mild flu like symptoms.  

Kind of hoping this is it.....no vaccine for me!!!!!!

So you're immune forever? link? 

posted by Automatik

So you're immune forever? link? 

From what I know, this vaccine has never been reported to have mutated in any way like the influenza virus.  So like many others once you get it you should be immune.

posted by Fletch

From what I know, this vaccine has never been reported to have mutated in any way like the influenza virus.  So like many others once you get it you should be immune.

There have been cases, albeit a small number, of people getting it twice.

posted by queencitybuckeye

There have been cases, albeit a small number, of people getting it twice.

likely false positive testing is more likely the reason for those.

That was a serious question and something I've been wondering regularly.

Reason I ask is, friend was sick in March....early COVID. Never got actual COVID test.

Tested positive for antibodies in around May. His "levels" were high. Not sure on the exact terminology there. 

He just tested again for antibodies 2 weeks ago and his level were significantly lower. What does that mean? If anything? 

Also, I know antibody tests can be inaccurate. Just a topic to discuss. 

posted by Automatik

He just tested again for antibodies 2 weeks ago and his level were significantly lower. What does that mean? If anything?

From what I've seen, they believe immunity lasts at least 4 months, but probably more than 6.  If I had it in March, I'd assume I could get it (and spread it) again.

But immunity to SARS and MERS is longer than 12 months, possibly years.  Other cold viruses immunity can last for years.

It's not just when antibodies disappear.  Your body also enlists T-cells in defense, and I think that's how it remembers to produce antibodies, also (but probably wrong there).

Anyway, officially the guidance is immunity lasts 4-6 months.  That would be one hell of a thing if everyone had to get vaccinated again in 6 months.  But it appears likely that immunity will last longer than 12 months.

Maybe your friends immune system sucks.  Maybe their diet sucks.  

I'm leaning towards we don't know shit....for sure.

posted by Spock

Maybe your friends immune system sucks.  Maybe their diet sucks.  

I'd say over half the population of the united states is metabolically unhealthy, so there is that so the reason to put small businesses out of business.  It is okay to go to McDonalds, but not to a gym 

posted by Spock

Sitting at home on day 3 of not being able to taste or smell.  Headaches and mild flu like symptoms.  

Kind of hoping this is it.....no vaccine for me!!!!!!

Should have worn a mask

posted by gut

The big question to be decided is how long before we return to normal?  Because the more austere and draconian leaders seem to be signaling 6-9 months or longer...while I'm thinking 100M vaccinated by the end of February is basically pandemic over in the US.  A lot of people could still get it at that point, but their mortality rate would be virtually 0.

posted by Spock

Sitting at home on day 3 of not being able to taste or smell.  Headaches and mild flu like symptoms.  

Kind of hoping this is it.....no vaccine for me!!!!!!

Have you tried the TikTok trend with the Orange. People are saying it works to restore your sense of taste and smell. 

posted by friendfromlowry

Should have worn a mask

Should of worn a mask

Fify

Just heard my cousin got vaccinated today. She works in at Cleveland as a CVICU nurse. I'm happy for her, has to be a somewhat feeling of relief. She's seen some horrible shit throughout this pandemic.

posted by friendfromlowry

Should have worn a mask

*should of

Dangit... wildcasts beat me.  Derp

Bill Hemmer interviewing Fauci and asks "only 1.5% of cases in NY are linked to bars and restaurants - was it a mistake to shut them down?".

And Fauci just dodges and goes to "well, you've got to provide financial relief for them".

Whether bars and restaurants might actually reduce private gatherings (where 75% of cases are spreading), or increase them with people "continuing the party at Bob's"....I'm not sure how much difference that makes if you can't and won't enforce curfews and restrictions on private gatherings.

posted by gut

Bill Hemmer interviewing Fauci and asks "only 1.5% of cases in NY are linked to bars and restaurants - was it a mistake to shut them down?".

And Fauci just dodges and goes to "well, you've got to provide financial relief for them".

Whether bars and restaurants might actually reduce private gatherings (where 75% of cases are spreading), or increase them with people "continuing the party at Bob's"....I'm not sure how much difference that makes if you can't and won't enforce curfews and restrictions on private gatherings.

So the follow up question was not..."relief for who?  you think the staff can survive on government handouts in NYC?"

Starting Monday my daughter gets to give the vaccine to nursing home patients in Scioto Co