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WOW. NCAA saying all tournament will be played with no fans. 

posted by iclfan2

WOW. NCAA saying all tournament will be played with no fans. 

That's going to be weird.  It's gotta have a huge impact on performance, I'd think.  The small school underdog won't get that boost from the fans.

I wonder if the broadcasts are going to overlay some sort of fan soundtrack?  It would be surreal to watch the games without that background noise.

posted by gut

That's going to be weird.  It's gotta have a huge impact on performance, I'd think.  The small school underdog won't get that boost from the fans.

I wonder if the broadcasts are going to overlay some sort of fan soundtrack?  It would be surreal to watch the games without that background noise.

Guess I'll be finding out next week when my friends and I have our annual "get shitfaced and watch basketball for four days" get-together. It definitely seems like it'll be very weird to hear announcers and watch players while not seeing or hearing anything else. I'd guess if things got too weird, we'd go with music for audio and watch the games on mute, but I'd rather it didn't come down to that because I always get put in charge of that and I'd rather focus on watching games and cursing my bracket.

posted by gut

That's going to be weird.  It's gotta have a huge impact on performance, I'd think.  

Have to think it's also going to have an impact on those working these events (concessions, etc). Was thinking about this earlier and if it continues to escalate, how will this effect those that work in the service industry (waiters, waitresses) that rely on tips. Will they start shutting down eating establishments where larger groups might sit down to eat?

News reporting a possible case at Miami Valley Hospital in Dayton. 

Shit is getting close.

There is a case in Warren, Ohio too.

So Trump just banned all flights from Europe for 30 days (other than the UK). If that includes Cargo that’s gonna be an issue. Gonna suck for people who can’t get refunds back.

Tom Hanks and his wife tested positive.

NBA suspending season.

And CNN is fucking talking about calling it Chinese or Wuhan virus is racist. Fucking so much journalisming. 

We have 10 days before we leave for Costa Rica.  Shit better not get fucking canceled! Our trip insurance covers our hotel in the event of a canceled flight.  I doubt it will cover our govt. saying we can't go.

posted by iclfan2

There is a case in Warren, Ohio too.

So Trump just banned all flights from Europe for 30 days (other than the UK). If that includes Cargo that’s gonna be an issue. Gonna suck for people who can’t get refunds back.

Tom Hanks and his wife tested positive.

Looks like not Cargo and only foreign nationals, not US citizens.

Some good news - The Cleveland Clinic developed a new test for the virus that gives results in hours instead of the current 2-3 days. Took them nine days to develop the test.

https://www.cleveland19.com/2020/03/12/cleveland-clinics-new-coronavirus-test-kits-will-deliver-results-hours/

Trump and Pence supposedly ate dinner with Brazilian officials at Mar-a-Lago this weekend and one of them is now suspected of having the virus. Here is a Brazilian article via translator. 
 

https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=pt&sp=nmt4&u=https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/colunas/monicabergamo/2020/03/wajngarten-volta-de-viagem-aos-eua-com-bolsonaro-com-suspeita-de-coronavirus.shtml&usg=ALkJrhhevre5lq-D9nVN2R4vdQSalVt3Vg

posted by iclfan2

Looks like not Cargo and only foreign nationals, not US citizens.

US citizens and permanent residents will, from the sound of it, possibly have to be filtered through specific airports with controlled screening before re-entry, but yeah, it does sound like they'll be able to get home.

posted by ernest_t_bass

We have 10 days before we leave for Costa Rica.  Shit better not get fucking canceled! Our trip insurance covers our hotel in the event of a canceled flight.  I doubt it will cover our govt. saying we can't go.

This is going to get much worse before it gets any better. Sorry man but I wouldn’t plan on taking that trip. 

posted by Rotinaj

This is going to get much worse before it gets any better....

That's a very relative, and ultimately useless, statement.  I think we'd all agree 100X more cases is "much worse", but that would still be less than about 0.03% of the population.  And of those, maybe 0.3% would die.....meaning this probably won't kill as many people as the flu does every year.

The contagious factor and mortality rate are perhaps high enough to justify all this.  This is definitely worse than the flu in that respect, but maybe not all that much.  And many, many people still aren't bothered to get flu vaccinations.  I think this is a gross overreaction, and less about politics and more about a newscycle that is searching for Armageddon around every disaster.

Right, billion dollar organizations are making decisions based on the news cycle. Have you even listened to an expert speak on the subject? 

I go back and forth on this. 

If you are going to slow a virus that has a 3-4% mortality rate, the easiest way is to avoid spaces where there are large gatherings. 

If the Governors of states, based on their health departments are making those recommendations, it is only prudent to follow them. No one wants a death of a person to be caused by them going to an event and coming in contact with the virus. 

It sucks, it really does as it means a ton of events are getting cancelled, but at this rate, given what the health experts are saying, all these cancellations make sense. 

I see much of this as mostly covering their asses in case someone would get it.

As stated, the common flu kills tens of thousands a year and spreads so easily.   None of these organizations want any liability. I wholeheartedly believe that what they are all saying isnt 100% how they truly feel, but to be uber safe to protect them from lawsuits they are taking this route.

I say refund folks their money if they dont want to attend events because of this ubt if they want to go. let them.

posted by Rotinaj

This is going to get much worse before it gets any better. Sorry man but I wouldn’t plan on taking that trip. 

Lalalala.. not what I want to hear!  :(   If the plane is leaving Chicago, and we're allowed to be on it, we plan to be on it.  I just hope that worldwide travel is not banned by then.  I purchased trip insurance in the event of a flight cancellation, but I'm considering dropping the extra $140 for FULL coverage, which will cover us backing out b/c of COVID.  

posted by ernest_t_bass

Lalalala.. not what I want to hear!  :(   If the plane is leaving Chicago, and we're allowed to be on it, we plan to be on it.  I just hope that worldwide travel is not banned by then.  I purchased trip insurance in the event of a flight cancellation, but I'm considering dropping the extra $140 for FULL coverage, which will cover us backing out b/c of COVID.  

The other risk is that you are able to go, then you can't get back. I don't know how bad it will get, but wouldn't want to risk getting stuck in a third world country if things become really bad.

The problem with travel is that 3 years from now....there will be parts of the world that will still have this virus as part of their society.  It isnt going away ever