Progressives, part 3...

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Fri, Jul 26, 2019 1:56 PM
posted by Spock

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dems-launch-impeachment-investigation-with-bid-for-grand-jury-info-insist-mueller-delivered

 

 

Holy cow.....Political suicide is coming.

Good luck, Nadler

gut Senior Member
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Fri, Jul 26, 2019 1:57 PM
posted by Spock

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dems-launch-impeachment-investigation-with-bid-for-grand-jury-info-insist-mueller-delivered

Obviously they'll do everything they can to keep this alive up to the election.

But I think the motivation might actually be more unethical.  They expected the Mueller Report to, at a minimum, give them plenty of dirt and oppo research on Trump, maybe new areas to investigate for crimes/impeachment.  That didn't happen, so now they want the grand jury testimony so they can uncover potential new witnesses that they might then pursue for dirt on Trump.

Someone mentioned the statute of limitations on indicting Trump might be 5 years, so if he gets re-elected I expect some epic trolling somewhere around April 2024.

Spock Senior Member
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Fri, Jul 26, 2019 2:47 PM
posted by gut

Obviously they'll do everything they can to keep this alive up to the election.

But I think the motivation might actually be more unethical.  They expected the Mueller Report to, at a minimum, give them plenty of dirt and oppo research on Trump, maybe new areas to investigate for crimes/impeachment.  That didn't happen, so now they want the grand jury testimony so they can uncover potential new witnesses that they might then pursue for dirt on Trump.

Someone mentioned the statute of limitations on indicting Trump might be 5 years, so if he gets re-elected I expect some epic trolling somewhere around April 2024.

They have to keep this in the news to have a chance at a soundbite for 2020 of "do you want to vote for a president that is going to be impeached?"

 

 

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Fri, Jul 26, 2019 5:08 PM
posted by gut

Obviously they'll do everything they can to keep this alive up to the election.

But I think the motivation might actually be more unethical.  They expected the Mueller Report to, at a minimum, give them plenty of dirt and oppo research on Trump, maybe new areas to investigate for crimes/impeachment.  That didn't happen, so now they want the grand jury testimony so they can uncover potential new witnesses that they might then pursue for dirt on Trump.

Someone mentioned the statute of limitations on indicting Trump might be 5 years, so if he gets re-elected I expect some epic trolling somewhere around April 2024.

 

 

 

 

Talk about being between a rock and a hard place.  They have to choose between continuing a witch hunt that has no there there, or embracing full-on Marxism. 

 

Starting to feel sorry for them.

majorspark Senior Member
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Sat, Jul 27, 2019 12:42 AM
posted by QuakerOats
Starting to feel sorry for them.

Kind of felt this way about Mueller.

gut Senior Member
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Sat, Jul 27, 2019 1:20 AM
posted by majorspark
Starting to feel sorry for them.

Kind of felt this way about Mueller.

He was well-compensated for his troubles.

The mind-blowing thing is that Dems didn't see that coming, or that they put him up there anyway.  Or maybe I lack savvy, and don't realize that even 2-3 quality soundbites out of that hearing make it worth it.  But, me, I would have known how he was going to perform and what he was going to say....and then I wouldn't have called him to testify.

I mean, if you watched the hearing it was a total flop.  But the 2-3 minutes of edited outtakes that will get played again and again in the media is probably a stone-cold winner for Democrats.

Spock Senior Member
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Sat, Jul 27, 2019 7:49 AM

Look at the Dems you are talking about.  They are so blinded that I dont think they even saw it that way.  They probably sat there all day thinking "Man Mueller is killing it!"

 

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Sat, Jul 27, 2019 12:50 PM

Anyone see this new trend happening with people throwing water in police while they try to arrest someone? I hope people start getting beaten/ tazed.

Also, rightfully saying Baltimore is a shit hole does not make you racist. I don’t think people know what that word means anymore.

O-Trap Chief Shenanigans Officer
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Sat, Jul 27, 2019 1:32 PM
posted by iclfan2

I hope people start getting beaten/ tazed.


iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Sat, Jul 27, 2019 8:56 PM

...you reap what you sow.

Anyway, this continues to be said among mainstream dems 

"But for voter disenfranchisement, Stacey Abrams would be the governor of Georgia."

Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand speaks at the National Urban League Conference in Indianapolis.”

Per the hill. Remember this when CNN writes articles asking what happens when Trump doesn’t accept an election. She lost by 55k votes amid record voter turnout. 

Spock Senior Member
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Sat, Jul 27, 2019 9:32 PM

Bette Midler is now a racist also.

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Mon, Jul 29, 2019 12:20 PM
posted by iclfan2

 

Also, rightfully saying Baltimore is a shit hole does not make you racist. I don’t think people know what that word means anymore.

Ehh, they were still pretty bad comments to disparage an American city. 

Also, Baltimore isn't a shit hole. Some parts are still like the Wire, but other areas are pretty damn nice and fun. I often head up to Baltimore for events, dinners, games ,etc. The entire area from downtown to the inner harbor, baseball park, Fell's Point, Federal Hill and Port Covington area is nice. If you ever visit, Sagamore Rye is based in Port Coveington and is a nice rye. It has really grown and been rebuilt in the last 10 years. It is like every major city on the rebound. I'll admit it still has a ways to go. 

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Mon, Jul 29, 2019 12:51 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Ehh, they were still pretty bad comments to disparage an American city. 

Also, Baltimore isn't a shit hole. Some parts are still like the Wire, but other areas are pretty damn nice and fun. I often head up to Baltimore for events, dinners, games ,etc. The entire area from downtown to the inner harbor, baseball park, Fell's Point, Federal Hill and Port Covington area is nice. If you ever visit, Sagamore Rye is based in Port Coveington and is a nice rye. It has really grown and been rebuilt in the last 10 years. It is like every major city on the rebound. I'll admit it still has a ways to go. 

I'm not saying Trump isn't a clown for saying it, but jumping on "racism" is such a dumb complaint. Like defending Sharpton now bc Trump said he's a con man. I get that twitter is like 2% of America, but shit all it seems like is the media and people crying over Trump's dumb comments. 

I've been to the inner harbor and the nice parts (wife's friend that we stayed with lived on Federal Hill), I'd go back, but doesn't change that the bad parts are extremely bad.

O-Trap Chief Shenanigans Officer
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Mon, Jul 29, 2019 1:02 PM

I'm not a huge fan of Charlie Kirk, and I disagree with his overall position on immigration, but he does a great job and represents the pro-wall group well here.

https://www.facebook.com/realCharlieKirk/videos/688907744892796/

Spock Senior Member
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like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Mon, Jul 29, 2019 1:52 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Ehh, they were still pretty bad comments to disparage an American city. 

Also, Baltimore isn't a shit hole. Some parts are still like the Wire, but other areas are pretty damn nice and fun. I often head up to Baltimore for events, dinners, games ,etc. The entire area from downtown to the inner harbor, baseball park, Fell's Point, Federal Hill and Port Covington area is nice. If you ever visit, Sagamore Rye is based in Port Coveington and is a nice rye. It has really grown and been rebuilt in the last 10 years. It is like every major city on the rebound. I'll admit it still has a ways to go. 

LOL, you are giving Baltimore wayyyyy too much credit.  I have been plenty of times, and outside of the few little parts you named, it is a complete shit hole. 

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Mon, Jul 29, 2019 2:13 PM
posted by Spock

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/29/us/gilroy-california-food-festival-shooting-monday/index.html

 

That didnt take long.

Lol, "assault-style". 

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Mon, Jul 29, 2019 2:58 PM
posted by iclfan2

Anyone see this new trend happening with people throwing water in police while they try to arrest someone? I hope people start getting beaten/ tazed.

Also, rightfully saying Baltimore is a shit hole does not make you racist. I don’t think people know what that word means anymore.

 

 

 

The left cannot even begin to discuss real issues any more; they have zero to add in the arena of ideas.  All they have is identity politics and highly aggressive behavior aimed at completely shutting down or destroying those they disagree with.  Not going to end well, or in their favor.

majorspark Senior Member
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Mon, Jul 29, 2019 3:00 PM

geeblock should be highly troubled by Elijah Cummings gerrymandered 7th district.

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Mon, Jul 29, 2019 3:08 PM
posted by like_that

LOL, you are giving Baltimore wayyyyy too much credit.  I have been plenty of times, and outside of the few little parts you named, it is a complete shit hole. 

Nah. I think the city reminds me of DC 10-15 years ago. Some parts are bad, but others, including on the northern end as well are not bad. 

posted by majorspark

geeblock should be highly troubled by Elijah Cummings gerrymandered 7th district.


Oh, it is not as bad as mine, the MD 6th which the state assembly changed to get the R out of office. MD 6 is all of western Maryland, but then the swoops around to include the city of Frederick and populous portions of Montgomery County. It is totally gerrymandered to favor the Ds. 

MD's Congressional District are just as bad the PA and NCs, maybe even worse. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maryland%27s_congressional_districts

 

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