Progressives, part 3...

Nothing triggers the Dems and their media quite as much as when Trump turns their identity politics against them.

It's a pretty awful statement to crap on people's homes like that....But this isn't costing Trump any votes.  If some of these people say "hey, he's right what are the Dems really doing to deserve my vote" and stay home, then Trump wins.

Trump has attacked plenty of the white Democrats.  But, predictably, every time he attacks Democrats of color who criticize him, the media calls him racist.  What they don't understand is this rallies Trump's base not because they're racist, but because it exposes the hypocrisy of the Dems.  He punches back - vulgar and moronic as he is, they like that he doesn't let identity politics bully him.

posted by Spock

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/29/us/gilroy-california-food-festival-shooting-monday/index.html

 

That didnt take long.

"The weapon, an AK-47-style rifle, was purchased legally [...]"



If it was " an AK-47-style rifle" in any real sense, it was not purchased legally.

If it was purchased legally, it was not "an AK-47-style rifle" in any real sense.

posted by O-Trap

"The weapon, an AK-47-style rifle, was purchased legally [...]"



If it was " an AK-47-style rifle" in any real sense, it was not purchased legally.

If it was purchased legally, it was not "an AK-47-style rifle" in any real sense.

While I am the first to jump all over the media when they pull dumb crap like this about guns, there could be some truth behind this. 

My dad owns an antique (WW2) Russian SKS AK-47. It is only semi-auto obviously to be legal and he purchased it legally. The only difference between it and the actual assault weapons that the Russians used in WW2 is the firing pin. It still has the bayonet and everything. It is a beautiful rifle. We have shot it a couple times but it’s mostly a collector gun. 

So, while the media is probably 100% wrong here, my dad does in fact own an AK-47 legally, just has had the firing pin replaced to only a semi-auto. 

Baltimore mayor complains about 'Rats and Dead Animals' on Camera

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnbzSIBrp2g

posted by jmog

While I am the first to jump all over the media when they pull dumb crap like this about guns, there could be some truth behind this. 

 

My dad owns an antique (WW2) Russian SKS AK-47. It is only semi-auto obviously to be legal and he purchased it legally. The only difference between it and the actual assault weapons that the Russians used in WW2 is the firing pin. It still has the bayonet and everything. It is a beautiful rifle. We have shot it a couple times but it’s mostly a collector gun. 

 

So, while the media is probably 100% wrong here, my dad does in fact own an AK-47 legally, just has had the firing pin replaced to only a semi-auto. 

I threw in the "any real sense" to kind of cover myself a little bit, but I didn't realize this was a thing, so that's fair.

It's still deceptive journalism, though, since the very thing that makes an AK-47 objectionable and "scary" is the fact that it's an automatic weapon.  I mean, I could hold up a store with an M4 rubber duck, and someone could make the case that it's "AK-47-like."

posted by O-Trap

"The weapon, an AK-47-style rifle, was purchased legally [...]"

And was illegal to take into California, was also illegal to be in the gun free zone, and obv it's illegal to kill people. But more laws will certainly stop this, and it's disgusting that the gun grabbers don't even wait for the bodies to be cold before spouting their BS.

posted by iclfan2

[...] it's disgusting that the gun grabbers don't even wait for the bodies to be cold before spouting their BS.

Well, they'll argue that gun crimes are happening on a daily basis and that there has been about one mass shooting per week, meaning the bodies never get cold before the next one.

I don't actually mind something like this catalyzing a discussion, but what bothers me is when they use the recency in an emotional appeal.  If we're going to discuss it even minutes after, that's fine.  Let's have a rational, civil discussion, where we seek effective and adequate solutions.

Let's not fly off the handle and say that if you don't agree with my position in both action and intensity, then you must hate the victims of the most recent event.  That's what so many did after 9/11 with Muslims.  They used an emotional appeal of the images of the victims and heroes during the attacks to vilify individuals who had been peaceful their entire lives, much in the same way people are vilifying the private ownership of guns by people who have been peaceful their entire lives.

posted by O-Trap

Well, they'll argue that gun crimes are happening on a daily basis and that there has been about one mass shooting per week, meaning the bodies never get cold before the next one.

Well there is gun violence everyday, but they don’t ever talk about that. Look at the murder totals over a weekend in Chicago. They are also almost all pistols. Yet the scary looking rifles are the ones they have a problem with. 

Was there a motive given for this? Did he post anything on social   media?

I know one set of parents who will be put in a nursing home as soon as this kid can get away with it:

https://twitter.com/radicalalert/status/1155917874982207489

posted by geeblock

Was there a motive given for this? Did he post anything on social   media?

All I've heard is that he said he was angry and that he posted something about the book Might is Right on Instagram not long beforehand.

posted by QuakerOats

Baltimore mayor complains about 'Rats and Dead Animals' on Camera.

You want to see the rats scurry.  Trump should ride into the rat infested areas of Cumming's district and ask what can he do to relieve them of their plight since they have been forgotten.  The scurrying rats will be on two legs instead of four. 

posted by majorspark

You want to see the rats scurry.  Trump should ride into the rat infested areas of Cumming's district and ask what can he do to relieve them of their plight since they have been forgotten.  The scurrying rats will be on two legs instead of four. 

Come on...

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Come on...

 

Yes you would see some two legged rats scurry.

posted by O-Trap

All I've heard is that he said he was angry and that he posted something about the book Might is Right on Instagram not long beforehand.

I bet I can guess what type of book this is without looking it up 

posted by geeblock

I bet I can guess what type of book this is without looking it up 

You'd be right.  It implies an intrinsic causal relationship between race and behavior.

posted by O-Trap

You'd be right.  It implies an intrinsic causal relationship between race and behavior.

That always reminds me of that draconian theory that the shape of your head, including bumps, determines intelligence >.>

posted by CenterBHSFan

That always reminds me of that draconian theory that the shape of your head, including bumps, determines intelligence >.>

It should be treated with about the same level of seriousness, yeah.

posted by majorspark

Yes you would see some two legged rats scurry.

Come on man. 

So as rats, do they need exterminated? 

Seriously man, listen to yourself. 

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Come on man. 

So as rats, do they need exterminated? 

Seriously man, listen to yourself. 

 

I didn't take him to mean it in the way you took it. At all. 

Jumping to the extermination?

"Seriously man, listen to yourself."