Disgusted with the Biden administration

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Thu, Apr 15, 2021 10:32 AM

Interesting shift in sentiment from the media RE: leaving Afghanistan.

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Thu, Apr 15, 2021 11:47 AM
posted by justincredible

Interesting shift in sentiment from the media RE: leaving Afghanistan.

The only constant is the neocons are still butthurt lol.

I will give Biden credit if he actually follows thru, but every president since obama has been saying it.


justincredible Honorable Admin
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Thu, Apr 15, 2021 11:50 AM
posted by like_that

The only constant is the neocons are still butthurt lol.

I will give Biden credit if he actually follows thru, but every president since obama has been saying it.


Yeah, I hope he does. But I remember him saying the same thing in like 2012 that they'd be out by 2014.

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Thu, Apr 15, 2021 12:38 PM

Oh, the Russia bounty story was fake, yet talked about for weeks. Funny how these things only seem to happen to one side?

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Thu, Apr 15, 2021 1:15 PM

lol

8,788 posts 20 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Apr 15, 2021 1:17 PM
posted by justincredible

Yeah, I hope he does. But I remember him saying the same thing in like 2012 that they'd be out by 2014.

In the Obama years, Biden was actually the vocal one to withdraw while Gates and Clinton were more in the surge camp that prevailed. Then, in the later Obama years after the death of Bin Laden, Obama could not be seen as weak given the withdraw in Iraq and the situation in Afghanistan was worse in those years. 


That said, I also hope he follows through. Trump actually did lay a decent groundwork with talks with the Taliban and Afghan Gov. (That Obama could never do as he would be called weak). 

Spock Senior Member
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Thu, Apr 15, 2021 1:19 PM
posted by justincredible

lol

Put that on loop for about 5 minutes.  

8,788 posts 20 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Apr 15, 2021 1:19 PM
posted by iclfan2

Oh, the Russia bounty story was fake, yet talked about for weeks. Funny how these things only seem to happen to one side?

Not fake, I went back and read the original NYT story. The intel at the time said they had medium confidence on it. Now, they are saying it was low confidence it happened. I think that warrents a what the fuck happened in the intel verification process by the House and Senate Intel committees because either way it is a fuck up by the intelligence community. 

Spock Senior Member
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Thu, Apr 15, 2021 1:22 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Not fake, I went back and read the original NYT story. The intel at the time said they had medium confidence on it. Now, they are saying it was low confidence it happened. I think that warrents a what the fuck happened in the intel verification process by the House and Senate Intel committees because either way it is a fuck up by the intelligence community. 

Nice way to justify that.  Total BS over reach and political partisan move by a branch of government that should be impartal



8,788 posts 20 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Apr 15, 2021 1:24 PM
posted by Spock

Nice way to justify that.  Total BS over reach and political partisan move by a branch of government that should be impartal



Fake implies it was made up. We don't know that. The House and Senate should investigate and ask what changed and why was the previous estimate deemed medium to high confidence when it was not. Sounds to me a intel process and verifcaton story than anything. 


majorspark Senior Member
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Thu, Apr 15, 2021 1:24 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Not fake, I went back and read the original NYT story. The intel at the time said they had medium confidence on it. Now, they are saying it was low confidence it happened. I think that warrents a what the fuck happened in the intel verification process by the House and Senate Intel committees because either way it is a fuck up by the intelligence community. 

Perhaps it was one of the "six ways from Sunday" Schumer warned about.

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Thu, Apr 15, 2021 1:28 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Not fake, I went back and read the original NYT story. The intel at the time said they had medium confidence on it. Now, they are saying it was low confidence it happened. I think that warrents a what the fuck happened in the intel verification process by the House and Senate Intel committees because either way it is a fuck up by the intelligence community. 

Intel or fake sources? Was there a name of the Intel individual bc that would seem like a good place to start. 


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Thu, Apr 15, 2021 1:31 PM
posted by iclfan2

Intel or fake sources? Was there a name of the Intel individual bc that would seem like a good place to start. 


Nope there was not, just officials on background, which is normal for any story. So, a good hearing by the Senate and House would be a good place to start and determine process and how accurate the intel really was to the IC. 

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Thu, Apr 15, 2021 2:33 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Not fake, I went back and read the original NYT story. The intel at the time said they had medium confidence on it. Now, they are saying it was low confidence it happened. I think that warrents a what the fuck happened in the intel verification process by the House and Senate Intel committees because either way it is a fuck up by the intelligence community. 

Yes, this is clearly how the media portrayed this story LOL.


majorspark Senior Member
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Thu, Apr 15, 2021 6:51 PM

This Biden guy is turning out to be a real foreign policy genius.

queencitybuckeye Senior Member
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Thu, Apr 15, 2021 7:51 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Not from Manchin or Sinema, as they have a typical narrow view of infrastructure, so I expect it to be paired down as it moves through the Senate. 

The everything is infrastructure is dumb as shit. As someone who works in the field, yes we do need more spending on it, but everything does not fall in the category...

Narrow view as in "words have meaning"?

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Fri, Apr 16, 2021 2:23 PM
posted by majorspark

This Biden guy is turning out to be a real foreign policy genius.

I hope so, because his domestic policy is a disaster

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Fri, Apr 16, 2021 3:56 PM
posted by QuakerOats

I hope so, because his domestic policy is a disaster

Steel production is up in the US and two new metal fabrication plants have been announced in Alabama.  Sounds like Biden's a super genius. 

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Mon, Apr 19, 2021 6:23 AM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Not fake, I went back and read the original NYT story. The intel at the time said they had medium confidence on it. Now, they are saying it was low confidence it happened. I think that warrents a what the fuck happened in the intel verification process by the House and Senate Intel committees because either way it is a fuck up by the intelligence community. 

Actually, it was a fuck up in "journalism".

Big news just pushes narratives. And have we ever seen such a coordinated narrative between various news medias than what we seen during the Trump years? Have we ever seen such a vast amount of unnamed sources as we saw during the Trump years? The amount of times news medias have been caught stealth-editing is jaw-dropping and they have almost always been unapologetic after being caught out; they won't even address it. 

Neolibs and progressives fill in just about every corner of the media market. "But FOX news and Breitbart!" has never been a valid argument, no matter how hard contrarians were pumping it. As far as the fake news claim goes, it is absolutely fake when looked scrutinized with knowledge of who is president at any given time. 

Let's compare!

Trump news: "Muh Russian bounties!"

Biden news: "Major and Champ in the Whitehouse!"


QuakerOats Senior Member
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Mon, Apr 19, 2021 12:08 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Steel production is up in the US and two new metal fabrication plants have been announced in Alabama.  Sounds like Biden's a super genius. 

coat tails .................    and soon those will be burned with the new assaults on tax, regulatory fronts.

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