LOCKED: Disgusted with progressives, part 2...

posted by Automatik

So you're implying that protesting is only ok only when it fits your agenda? NO WAIIII

Not at all; protest all you want (as in outside chambers), just do not attempt to derail a process agreed upon by elected representatives. 

posted by wkfan

When have we had such a narcissistic former President??

Ask this question again the day after Trump is out of office.

posted by gut

Do Democrats really want Obama on the campaign trail?  With him as POTUS, Dems lost 1000 seats across state and federal govt over the past 4 elections.

Don't know what ya got til it's gone. 

posted by bigorangebuck22

Ask this question again the day after Trump is out of office.

he is going off to make billions....he wont care about politics

posted by Spock

he is going off to make billions....he wont care about politics

I'm not sure he actually cares about them now, even.

posted by O-Trap

I'm not sure he actually cares about them now, even.

I don't think Trump cares about "politics". I think he only cares about his brand; which seems to be working for his supporters. So ...

posted by CenterBHSFan

I don't think Trump cares about "politics". I think he only cares about his brand; which seems to be working for his supporters. So ...

Right.  Presidents, even former ones, tend to have this permanently endearing quality to their base.  If running for president, and winning as it turns out, was for the purpose of sealing up a long-term legacy for his brand, it wasn't a bad idea, and he obviously did accomplish the actual task.

As for whether or not it was actually good for the country, well ...

Former presidents dont have a brand.  History writes their chapter.

posted by Spock

he is going off to make billions....he wont care about politics

What does that have to do with him someday being the most narcissistic former President?

posted by Spock

Former presidents dont have a brand.  History writes their chapter.

Former presidents who become, or return to being, CEOs of large companies have brands.

In fact, all CEOs have brands.

Being a former POTUS is good for a CEO brand.

If you need me to go through that again, let me know where I lose you.

https://www.thecollegefix.com/more-yale-freshmen-identify-as-lgbtq-than-conservative/

posted by QuakerOats

 

https://www.thecollegefix.com/more-yale-freshmen-identify-as-lgbtq-than-conservative/

 

 

the death of the Ivy league

posted by QuakerOats

 

https://www.thecollegefix.com/more-yale-freshmen-identify-as-lgbtq-than-conservative/

 

 

That story makes no fucking sense. You are mixing your variables. Its stats 101. So what if there are more LGBTQ than conservatives? You are assuming all LGBTQ are liberal (that may not be the case).  The correct story should be how many conservatives are there compared to liberals. Looking at the data, it seems actually that over 50% of the students are somewhat liberal and centrist (44% somewhat liberal, and 16% centrist). That is the not a catchy headline on a conservative news source, so they spin the data to fit their narrative. 

http://features.yaledailynews.com/blog/2018/09/06/class-of-2022-by-the-numbers/ 

I think the point of the story is not so much ‘stats’, as it is raw numbers:  Group ‘A’ outnumbers Group ‘B’. 

Factcheck says that is correct.   :)

posted by QuakerOats

 

 

I think the point of the story is not so much ‘stats’, as it is raw numbers:  Group ‘A’ outnumbers Group ‘B’. 

 

Factcheck says that is correct.   :)

Maybe some of the LGBTQ are conservatives or libertarian, you don't know. 

You can be both LGBTQ and conservatives, so that mixes the numbers and you cannot directly compare them. It is the classic apples and oranges. 

Also, I actually think that more centrists outnumber conservatives as newsworthy and a good sign. We need more centrists and moderates today. 

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Maybe some of the LGBTQ are conservatives or libertarian, you don't know. 

You can be both LGBTQ and conservatives, so that mixes the numbers and you cannot directly compare them. It is the classic apples and oranges. 

Also, I actually think that more centrists outnumber conservatives as newsworthy and a good sign. We need more centrists and moderates today. 

It's a circumstantial correlation.

There are possibly more redheads than those who identify as conservative, as well.  It means nil.

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Maybe some of the LGBTQ are conservatives or libertarian, you don't know. 

You can be both LGBTQ and conservatives, so that mixes the numbers and you cannot directly compare them. It is the classic apples and oranges. 

Also, I actually think that more centrists outnumber conservatives as newsworthy and a good sign. We need more centrists and moderates today. 

Even though the percentage of LGBTQ that are conservative are low, I know 2 in my "immediate" family that are LGTBQ and conservative.

posted by O-Trap

It's a circumstantial correlation.

There are possibly more redheads than those who identify as conservative, as well.  It means nil.

Ah, the typical QQ Comparison then.

posted by jmog

Even though the percentage of LGBTQ that are conservative are low, I know 2 in my "immediate" family that are LGTBQ and conservative.

I know several as well who are both LGBTQ and conservative (one is an anarchocapitalist FFS).  They both identify as Christians as well and attend Protestant churches regularly.

Of course, these anecdote's don't speak to the whole like an actual study would, but nothing mentioned in this little tangent, the study QO cited included, does.

posted by O-Trap

Of course, these anecdote's don't speak to the whole like an actual study would, but nothing mentioned in this little tangent, the study QO cited included, does.

I think that study maybe says more about how conservatives, at least young conservatives, have been shamed into hiding that fact.  It's sadly funny that you have the media and celebrities basically bullying conservatives by constantly associating them as racist and sexist.

Which is why I look forward to a day when Libertarians actually matter.  And I've seen more than once Libertarians being associated with Conservatives, or in some cases to the right of Conservatives.  Obviously that is grossly false, but that's the state of liberalism today.