2020 Presidential Election thread

posted by gut

LOL, this thread really went off the rails with S&L

posted by SportsAndLady

Adding the word “black” in there is a) a fact and b) racist  

Hence why facts can be racist  

The fact (and only fact) in your scenario is that the person is black. That is not racist.

Calling someone a black sob is not a fact, and is indeed racist.

Anyway...

posted by like_that

This is true, but he was also referring to latinos that live in the US as being more diverse.  A lot of those latinos are also born in the US.  

Thanks, and that’s why I admitted at the start I didn’t watch the video. Just read the portion in question, which was correct. Not sure how I’m trying to prove “fake wokeness” by what I said. Lol.

posted by SportsAndLady

Is that just your reply to everything that goes against what you believe? That they’re just “fake woke”

posted by SportsAndLady

Oh lol and just to clarify. A black guy bumps into your car, you get out and call him a black son of a bitch. You don’t think that’s racist jmog? 

That is not a fact. I would know if he is black, but since I don’t know his mother I can not give  a valid fact based opinion that she is a bitch.

I think you are confusing facts with opinion.  The only part of that statement that would be factual is that he is black, as soon as you add the descriptor it becomes opinion.

So once again facts can’t be racist, opinions can.

Hope this helps. 

posted by SportsAndLady

Adding the word “black” in there is a) a fact and b) racist  

Hence why facts can be racist  

100% false. You are now moving the goalposts. 

Facts aren’t racist, opinions can be.

posted by gut

LOL, this thread really went off the rails with Laley and S&L struggling to fake their wokeness.

Welcome to any thread SnL posts on in 2020...yet somehow I am the douche...

Also, you're failing at being woke if you don't know Black is capitalized now.

posted by gut

Also, you're failing at being woke if you don't know Black is capitalized now.

I will issue my apologize to the African American community today!

posted by jmog

100% false. You are now moving the goalposts. 

Facts aren’t racist, opinions can be.

How is that moving the goal posts? You said facts can’t be racist. If you call someone a black son of a bitch, that is racist. A son of a bitch comment = you’re a dick. A black son of a bitch you’re now adding a racist remark in there. It’s racist, and it’s a fact. Goal posts are solidly where they were previously. 

posted by jmog

Welcome to any thread SnL posts on in 2020...yet somehow I am the douche...

We have mountains of evidence showing a) you’re a douche and b) you’re a robot 

Maybe start another thread to show everyone how educated you are! That was a doozy

Back to Biden.  This is not the first time he has expressed a monolith opinion of Black people.  A few months ago he told Charlamange tha god basically if black people have not yet decided to vote for him then they are not black.

Back during the 2008 presidential campaign he referred to Obama as "the first mainstream African American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice looking guy"  I don't know if that would qualify as one ok for one of his granddaughters to bring home or not.

posted by majorspark

Back to Biden.  This is not the first time he has expressed a monolith opinion of Black people.  A few months ago he told Charlamange tha god basically if black people have not yet decided to vote for him then they are not black.

Back during the 2008 presidential campaign he referred to Obama as "the first mainstream African American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice looking guy"  I don't know if that would qualify as one ok for one of his granddaughters to bring home or not.

Yes, and he apparently is the only person that gets a pass by using the "I have a black friend (Obama)" card. 

posted by SportsAndLady

How is that moving the goal posts? You said facts can’t be racist. If you call someone a black son of a bitch, that is racist. A son of a bitch comment = you’re a dick. A black son of a bitch you’re now adding a racist remark in there. It’s racist, and it’s a fact. Goal posts are solidly where they were previously. 

Black=fact

Son of a bitch=opinion  

Eventually you will understand the difference.

posted by SportsAndLady

We have mountains of evidence showing a) you’re a douche and b) you’re a robot 

Maybe start another thread to show everyone how educated you are! That was a doozy

1. Justin specifically asked for more threads at that time.

2. A number of people liked to ask/hear how things worked scientifically, just because you believe my intentions were nefarious doesn’t make it true. 

posted by jmog

1. Justin specifically asked for more threads at that time.

This is pretty much an evergreen request.

posted by jmog

1. Justin specifically asked for more threads at that time.

2. A number of people liked to ask/hear how things worked scientifically, just because you believe my intentions were nefarious doesn’t make it true. 

Could you teach us how logic works? It would be great if you could have fact vs. opinion as part of the lesson, just in case someone was absent on the day that they taught it in second grade. Thanks.

posted by jmog

Black=fact

Son of a bitch=opinion  

Eventually you will understand the difference.

“You son of a bitch” = asshole

“You black son of a bitch”= racist asshole

The addition of black is both a fact and makes it racist. Hope this helps!