2020 Presidential Election thread

posted by ptown_trojans_1

No mention of all the crazy and inaccurate shit that Trump said at the ABC townhall or at his presser last night? Not a surprise. 

Would the opposition candidate do a FOX town hall hosted by say Peter Doocy and take questions from "undecided" Trump supporters?  Or would he do nearly daily pressers before a critical and at times hostile and disrespectful media?  You have to wonder how Biden is going to perform in a debate if they ever happen.  I guess I just don't understand the political strategy.  This is where I believe the media bias blinds minds.

I listen to Rogan all the time.  One of the best podcasts.  He wouldnt let either of those 2 get away with any of the political crap.

If Trump was smart, He would go on Rogans podcast by himself.  

posted by Spock

I listen to Rogan all the time.  One of the best podcasts.  He wouldnt let either of those 2 get away with any of the political crap.

If Trump was smart, He would go on Rogans podcast by himself.  

This would be terrible idea for Trump to do before the election. 

I listen/watch a lot of Rogan's podcasts. He's very progressive on a lot of things such as medicaid for all. Other things like gun control - not so much. In a setting where there is 4 hours to talk in detail about things, without 20 second time limits, I think viewers would get to hear so much more vital information. But I agree with the others that it will never happen. 

Apparently people on Twitter and The View are saying that Joe Rogan is far right. He's anything but. But I think we can all agree that, to a progressive, anything to the right of Bernie is far right. That's just their political worldview.

It's also amazing to me how so many very progressive people who were acting like their skin was melting off and that somebody had slapped their mother over the fact that Bernie didn't win the primary, because the DNC rigged it for Biden (which I think is a pretty fair claim) are now all in for Joe. Perhaps it is the "vote blue no matter who" idea. But I think if I were a progressive who had my heart set on Bernie I'd be a little more resentful and vote third party. All of their talk about "revolution" disintegrates, doesn't it?
I'm not buying into the fact that it's because of Trump Derangement Syndrome and perhaps that is my blind spot with this.

Ptown, since you are probably leaning into progressivism more lately, perhaps you might have better insight to this than I do.

posted by like_that
I assume you have to be trolling at this point?

Partially. 

posted by majorspark
Would the opposition candidate do a FOX town hall hosted by say Peter Doocy and take questions from "undecided" Trump supporters?  Or would he do nearly daily pressers before a critical and at times hostile and disrespectful media?  You have to wonder how Biden is going to perform in a debate if they ever happen.  I guess I just don't understand the political strategy.  This is where I believe the media bias blinds minds.

He should do a Fox one. But, at the very least, he did a CNN one last night. 

posted by CenterBHSFan

I listen/watch a lot of Rogan's podcasts. He's very progressive on a lot of things such as medicaid for all. Other things like gun control - not so much. In a setting where there is 4 hours to talk in detail about things, without 20 second time limits, I think viewers would get to hear so much more vital information. But I agree with the others that it will never happen. 

Apparently people on Twitter and The View are saying that Joe Rogan is far right. He's anything but. But I think we can all agree that, to a progressive, anything to the right of Bernie is far right. That's just their political worldview.

It's also amazing to me how so many very progressive people who were acting like their skin was melting off and that somebody had slapped their mother over the fact that Bernie didn't win the primary, because the DNC rigged it for Biden (which I think is a pretty fair claim) are now all in for Joe. Perhaps it is the "vote blue no matter who" idea. But I think if I were a progressive who had my heart set on Bernie I'd be a little more resentful and vote third party. All of their talk about "revolution" disintegrates, doesn't it?
I'm not buying into the fact that it's because of Trump Derangement Syndrome and perhaps that is my blind spot with this.

Ptown, since you are probably leaning into progressivism more lately, perhaps you might have better insight to this than I do.

LOL. Thanks for lumping in with the progressives. My progressive friends would be shocked to learn that. 

I don't mind Joe Rogan. I think he does not fit into one political party or ideology box, which may be one reason why he is so popular. 

You think this years Democratic nomination was rigged for Biden? Ok. that is a new one for me. 

I think you are seeing all the Ds come together for two big reasons. 1. Hillary was not well liked and 2. Everyone really does dislike and want to vote Trump out of office. All throughout the D primary, the number one issue was to remove Trump. Biden led in the polls on who could best do that and hence he is the nominee.  

"Apparently people on Twitter and The View....."

posted by like_that

This would be terrible idea for Trump to do before the election. 

For what reason?  Joe would give an honest interview and let him really dig into the weeds on why he does what he does.  I think Rogan would agree with about 75% of what Trump would say

I don't think Trump is capable of having a normal discussion. Rogan would grill him and he'd just deflect to random shit.

Neither of these two are going in Rogan's show. Biden's handlers would never allow him to be exposed to open ended questioning that could flow in any direction. He's not even close to being up to that. That much off the cuff would be a complete trainwreck as it would lay bare his mental decline  Trump wouldn't go because he'd be unable to go deep into any topics plus he'd be unable to control the discussion - Rogan would call him out and his only strategy would be saying, "You're being very nasty".  

posted by Spock

For what reason?  Joe would give an honest interview and let him really dig into the weeds on why he does what he does.  I think Rogan would agree with about 75% of what Trump would say

Trump would not be able to handle Rogan for 2-4 hours. 

posted by like_that

Trump would not be able to handle Rogan for 2-4 hours. 

Gotta give Bernie credit for sitting down with him.  As much as I hate his politics, Bernie isn't a drooling idiot like Biden and Trump.

posted by ptown_trojans_1

LOL. Thanks for lumping in with the progressives. My progressive friends would be shocked to learn that.

It's the joys of political discourse nowadays. To the hardcore left-wingers, anything right of Bernie isn't left enough to the degree that definite liberals can get lumped in with right-wingers. To the people on the other end of the spectrum, being a Democrat means you done drank all the progressive kool-aid. It really feels like people have lost all sense of being able to critically think and just want to look at everything as a straight black-and-white issue despite the fact the world is composed of many shades of grey.

Well holy shit, shit just got even crazier.

Not that Biden isn't probably going to win, but RBG might definitely put him over the top now.

Would be a terrible mistake if McConnell tried to rush thru a replacement.  That would virtually guarantee the Dems pack the court when they get back control.  There's literally no time - I think 70 days might be average, and there's like 52 ahead of the election (and not sure how often they are even in session because almost everyone is out campaigning).

Although nominating Garland would be a heck of a twist.

That was quick 

posted by iclfan2

That was quick

McConnell can't really say anything other than "yup".

But what if the Repubs hang on to the Senate?  That'll be fun.

posted by iclfan2

That was quick 

That was quick.

President Donald Trump must nominate a new justice to the Supreme Court, and Mitch McConnell and the Senate must confirm that nominee this year. The McConnell rule does not preclude election year replacement when the Senate and White House are controlled by the same party.

— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) September 18, 2020

posted by Fab4Runner

That was quick.

President Donald Trump must nominate a new justice to the Supreme Court, and Mitch McConnell and the Senate must confirm that nominee this year. The McConnell rule does not preclude election year replacement when the Senate and White House are controlled by the same party.

— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) September 18, 2020

One is a head in government and one is a twitter guy. Close though.