LOCKED: Browns BS Drama Continued...

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Fri, Dec 29, 2017 5:57 PM

LOL...if this happens, we're doomed.

Ian O'Connor@Ian_OConnor

NFC personnel guy convinced Browns will take Josh Allen at No. 1, leaving Dave Gettleman (with a Giants loss or Colts win Sunday) to pick Rosen, Darnold, or Barkley.

5:03 PM - Dec 28, 2017

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Fri, Dec 29, 2017 6:02 PM

Should Hue stay or go?

https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/12/27/hue-jackson-cleveland-browns-john-dorsey-deshone-kizer-jimmy-haslam?utm_campaign=sinow&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&xid=socialflow_twitter_si

This quote jumps out....

"This is a roster that, frankly, should be somewhere between 4-12 and 6-10, not on the cusp of joining the winless 2008 Lions in infamy."

kizer permanente Senior Member
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Fri, Dec 29, 2017 7:03 PM
posted by BR1986FB

LOL...if this happens, we're doomed.

Ian O'Connor@Ian_OConnor

NFC personnel guy convinced Browns will take Josh Allen at No. 1, leaving Dave Gettleman (with a Giants loss or Colts win Sunday) to pick Rosen, Darnold, or Barkley.

5:03 PM - Dec 28, 2017

They better fucking not. 

Mulva Senior Member
13,797 posts 54 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Dec 29, 2017 9:28 PM

Yeah I’ll continue to pass hard on Darnold.

kizer permanente Senior Member
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Fri, Dec 29, 2017 9:37 PM

Yeah Rosen for me too. 

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
9,465 posts 100 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Dec 29, 2017 9:51 PM

He threw one bad ball, damn. The tape is a season long. The two of them are close though. 

Mulva Senior Member
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Fri, Dec 29, 2017 9:56 PM
posted by iclfan2

He threw one bad ball, damn. The tape is a season long. The two of them are close though. 

He’s 2nd in the entire country in turnovers.

Verbal Kint Senior Member
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Fri, Dec 29, 2017 9:57 PM

Nevermind on Darnold

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Fri, Dec 29, 2017 11:13 PM

Darnold if he comes out will still be a top 5 pick. I’ll let Dorsey and other scouts let me know who they think is better between him and Rosen

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Sat, Dec 30, 2017 12:40 AM
posted by Mulva

Yeah I’ll continue to pass hard on Darnold.

I'm with you on this. Tonight reminded me of what we, as fans, have to watch already (in Kizer)....a turnover machine with a bit more accuracy. 

Con_Alma Senior Member
12,320 posts 31 reps Joined Nov 2009
Sat, Dec 30, 2017 7:32 AM
posted by BR1986FB

LOL...if this happens, we're doomed.

Ian O'Connor@Ian_OConnor

NFC personnel guy convinced Browns will take Josh Allen at No. 1, leaving Dave Gettleman (with a Giants loss or Colts win Sunday) to pick Rosen, Darnold, or Barkley.

5:03 PM - Dec 28, 2017

I would take Allen over Rosen or Darnold easily.

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Sat, Dec 30, 2017 9:14 AM
posted by iclfan2

Darnold if he comes out will still be a top 5 pick. I’ll let Dorsey and other scouts let me know who they think is better between him and Rosen

This.  I have seen plenty of QBs look like complete shit or future HOFers during bowl games only to do the exact opposite in the NFL.  

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Sat, Dec 30, 2017 9:49 AM
posted by Con_Alma

I would take Allen over Rosen or Darnold easily.

I think I'd take Manziel over Allen. Allen is going to need to sit for quite some time before he's ready. He, to me, is the rawest of the raw.

Al Bundy Senior Member
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Sat, Dec 30, 2017 12:05 PM
posted by like_that

This.  I have seen plenty of QBs look like complete shit or future HOFers during bowl games only to do the exact opposite in the NFL.  

I would agree with you if it were just one game, but he has had a pattern of turning the ball over all season.

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Sat, Dec 30, 2017 10:13 PM
posted by Al Bundy

I would agree with you if it were just one game, but he has had a pattern of turning the ball over all season.

This one of my big concerns. If he's doing it at the collegiate level, against lesser competition, how much will it improve when he gets to the NFL and the speed of the game is significantly more than at USC? It's one thing if he's good at protecting the ball in college, comes to the pros and starts fumbling & throwing INT's but if he's already established this pattern in college, I wonder if it could get worse.

wes_mantooth Tomfoolery & shenanigans
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Sun, Dec 31, 2017 3:04 AM

I really have no interest in Rosen at all.  He doesn't impress me at all.  Darnold makes some awesome throws then turns around and makes a terrible decision so I really don't know what to make of him.  Poor decision making is why Kizer sucks so going with Darnold is scary

Con_Alma Senior Member
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Sun, Dec 31, 2017 7:32 AM

I'd rather see Josh Allen or Riley Ferguson at #1.  It will be fun to watch how Dorsey uses all of these picks.

vball10set paying it forward
26,788 posts 121 reps Joined Nov 2009
Sun, Dec 31, 2017 8:12 AM

I want Barkley at 1, then whatever QB's left (either Rosen, Darnold or Allen) at 4

SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Sun, Dec 31, 2017 10:11 AM
posted by vball10set

I want Barkley at 1, then whatever QB's left (either Rosen, Darnold or Allen) at 4

Not me. Saquon gets an 80 yard TD run in games and then goes 20 carries for 50 yards. So yeah he finishes with 21 carries for 130 yards, but If you’re going to take a RB at 1 overall, he better be Adrian Peterson and I don’t believe Saquon is that. 

Let Dorsey evaluate these QBs..whatever one he thinks is the best you take at 1, and then use the rest one BPA’s to fill the talent-less holes of this team. 

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Sun, Dec 31, 2017 10:20 AM
posted by vball10set

I want Barkley at 1, then whatever QB's left (either Rosen, Darnold or Allen) at 4

Fuck that. I’ll pass on any RB in the first round. Such a waste of pick.

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