Why no school shooter thread?

Turning to government for answers, when it is big government that has led the destruction of families, traditional values and conscience formation, all of which has brought us to these shootings.  

The irony is immeasurable. 

It's been less than a week and we've reached maximum retard. Crisis actors, hacking up guns on FB, Donald paying lip service with the bumpstock ban, etc.

I like to inform the students that want to start banning guns that they need to take a look at facts. They may want to check themselves before they decide to check a nation legal gun owners and check the Second Amendment.

87% of the school student shooters have have a history of being bullied by the students body within that school. Over 80% of the student body deemed the individual socially unacceptable, 12% of the student Shooters have significant signs of suicide which is ignored not only by the students but by the counselors. A hundred percent of those students Shooters have dysfunctional families, dysfunctional parents, a history of suicide behavors, suicide attempts drug abuse substance abuse and most of all the refusal to take their medications for whatever psychological issues they may have.

Fix the problem in your own house, in your own school building,  in your own student body, with your counselors your own community awareness. 

To your point, Belly, this was posted by the Superintendent of the school district I grew up in:

With yet another school massacre occurring yesterday, many of you may be wondering what we do here at Licking Valley to prepare for and try to deter such heinous acts in our schools. Let’s start by acknowledging that if someone with a weapon wants to come to the school and do harm it can be difficult, if not impossible, to stop. That doesn’t mean that we won’t do everything in our power to stop the individual and protect your child, but it will depend on the circumstances and each of these events is unique. If there is a form of prevention it is relationships. Of all of the safety and security measures we have undertaken and implemented here at Licking Valley over the last 8 years, none of them is as powerful as relationships, and I would argue that no school staff anywhere does a better job of focusing on and intentionally and actively building relationships with our students and families. We have to know our kids, we have to know their parents, we have to know when bad things have happened in their lives, we have to know when they are hurting and need to be loved, we have to know when they need help we may not be trained to provide them, we have to know when they need compassion before education: first and foremost, we have to know our kids, there is no other effective deterrent.

Those relationships build trust. Our kids have to trust us. They have to be willing to walk up to an adult in the school and tell them when they know something, saw something, heard something, fear something, sense something. I’ve remarked to many people in the 15 years that I’ve been at Licking Valley as an administrator that I am so proud of the fact that our kids do just that, all the time. You don’t know this, but over that 15-year period of time many a dangerous situation has been stopped in its tracks for ONLY this reason; a student trusted us enough to tell us about something that scared them. We can never take that trust for granted and we must actively foster and nurture that trust every day with every kid. The fact that we love our kids makes that a fairly natural thing for us to do.

Parents, this is where your role in school safety comes in: you have to help us foster and nurture that trust with your children. We need positive and productive relationships with you, and you have to trust us so that you will tell us when your child is experiencing some form of trauma, or depression, or mental illness. You have to trust us so that you will encourage your children to trust us; and yes, we have to earn and build that trust with you. We need you to actively and repeatedly encourage your children, when they see something or hear something, to say something to an adult in the school, or even to you so you can tell an adult at the school. This is the only effective deterrent.

We can train our staff and students in all of the latest best practices around school safety, and we have, and we can spend tens of thousands of dollars to install the latest, cutting-edge school security equipment, and we have, and we can do all of the necessary drills, and we do, and if we don’t have positive relationships and trust as a foundation for our school community, it can happen here. RELATIONSHIPS. TRUST. VIGILANCE. COMMUNICATION.

David Hile
Superintendent, LVLS

If anyone has an AR that they feel guilty about opening, I'll give them my address. They can send it to me and I'll destroy it for them.

posted by justincredible

To your point, Belly, this was posted by the Superintendent of the school district I grew up in:

But damn it, we want to ban something!.

posted by Belly35

I like to inform the students that want to start banning guns that they need to take a look at facts. They may want to check themselves before they decide to check a nation legal gun owners and check the Second Amendment.

87% of the school student shooters have have a history of being bullied by the students body within that school. Over 80% of the student body deemed the individual socially unacceptable, 12% of the student Shooters have significant signs of suicide which is ignored not only by the students but by the counselors. A hundred percent of those students Shooters have dysfunctional families, dysfunctional parents, a history of suicide behavors, suicide attempts drug abuse substance abuse and most of all the refusal to take their medications for whatever psychological issues they may have.

Fix the problem in your own house, in your own school building,  in your own student body, with your counselors your own community awareness. 

So school shootings are the fault of the other students at the school?

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

So school shootings are the fault of the other students at the school?

Fault isn't the point. The point is for everyone to be aware of what's going on around you and if something doesn't feel right, share your concerns. May not have helped in this case, definitely could have in others.

posted by Belly35

I like to inform the students that want to start banning guns that they need to take a look at facts. They may want to check themselves before they decide to check a nation legal gun owners and check the Second Amendment.

87% of the school student shooters have have a history of being bullied by the students body within that school. Over 80% of the student body deemed the individual socially unacceptable, 12% of the student Shooters have significant signs of suicide which is ignored not only by the students but by the counselors. A hundred percent of those students Shooters have dysfunctional families, dysfunctional parents, a history of suicide behavors, suicide attempts drug abuse substance abuse and most of all the refusal to take their medications for whatever psychological issues they may have.

Fix the problem in your own house, in your own school building,  in your own student body, with your counselors your own community awareness. 

-50 for suggesting personal accountability

-100 for failing to suggest how govt intervention can fix the problem

-1000 for forgetting to blame the NRA and Republicans

All school shootings happen at a school.  #banschools

Haven’t watched the CNN bullshit, but from what I see on Twitter, please run on semi auto bans in the mid terms Dems. Should go over well.

posted by iclfan2

Haven’t watched the CNN bullshit, but from what I see on Twitter, please run on semi auto bans in the mid terms Dems. Should go over well.

CNN is surely going full political retard this time.  

No idea what the fuck Marco Rubio is doing. Going on that “gunz are bad!!!” Town Hall bullshit on fucking CNN is such a lose lose situation. 

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

So school shootings are the fault of the other students at the school?

No that's your words, in an effort to make it sound like those are my words typical liberal. My comment was before trying to attack a situation maybe America, politicisn, communities, schools  should look further at your own surroundings your own environment your own behavior your own Community you own School how you treat other students the problem lies within that area. Trying to solve the problem from the top down is never going to work you always have to get back to basics fix the base fix the problems at the structure fix the situations at home fix the situations with students fix the situation with health care fix the situation with parent involvement fix the situation with better counselor's fix the situation  with open communication and the database between school Authority and law enforcement. Stop all this grandstanding about the ARs and gun control It's Time to Get Back to Basics. Mental health, faith, family, pride, communiy, enforcing present laws, more preventive training, bullying........ Those are the things that we as Americans can address locally.  Ask yourself how much time have you spent a your local school shareing and helping...   for many it 0 to none. Pay your school property taxes and close your eyes

A couple of Ohio's finest state senators introduced a bill that sets a pretty high standard for I'm-more-anti-gun-than-anyone pandering:

http://search-prod.lis.state.oh.us/solarapi/v1/general_assembly_132/bills/sb260/IN/00?format=pdf

My Glock, my .22 pistol and .22 rifle are asking me to move back to Ohio so they can be "assault weapons".

The kid who thought the coach should have a gun came out and said the entire CNN thing was scripted and he wasn’t allowed to ask what he wanted. Also, the crowd and the Broward Sheriff were total retards. These things only solidly most gun rights people’s feelings, and probably even sways some of the middle towards gun rights bc it is so stupid

posted by queencitybuckeye

A couple of Ohio's finest state senators introduced a bill that sets a pretty high standard for I'm-more-anti-gun-than-anyone pandering:

http://search-prod.lis.state.oh.us/solarapi/v1/general_assembly_132/bills/sb260/IN/00?format=pdf

My Glock, my .22 pistol and .22 rifle are asking me to move back to Ohio so they can be "assault weapons".

Limiting capacity to 10 is such an arbitrary thing. Like sure, that’ll prevent murders. 

I don't know if their fervent push for new gun control measures is going to work, especially something like a assault weapons ban, but I do know they are selling a lot of guns and NRA memberships.

Lol also these same people are saying 16 year olds should vote? Get the fuck out of here you morons.

Some students have some stupid ideas but talk normally and now they should all vote. Lol, k

Two comments:

I have not seen Salto reply, if he has been ban from this topic because of his comments and name calling I'm asking for a reprieve. If he can “Name Call Control” I believe his voice should be heard. Ive been called worse and have been disrespected before those that continue that behavior regret the situation. The hurt and frustration of Salto hate should be a concern of all the OC and we don’t need “gun control” to help Salto do we?  social deviant behavior, out burst of hate and rage, ranting frustration are those sign?

Limited to 10 rounds…. As a legal, law biding citizen, productive citizen and service honored veteran that enjoy the experience shooting and owning weapons.  The fact that legislating and politician with agenda will dictate my 2nd Amendment by restricting and limiting my purchase is unconstitutional. Note: I’m in total support of limiting mag size (depending on weapon specifications making a general random number is ignorant) and butt stock alteration. Maybe a look at Weapon Classification adjustment for additional mag capacity. Government and politicians are or should be bound and should be dedicated to the protection of the 2nd Amendment not altering intent.