Why no school shooter thread?

posted by ppaw1999

https://www.yahoo.com/news/georgia-teacher-custody-reports-gunfire-school-174848680.html

Well there is one teacher you don't want to be armed.

The only way to stop a bad teacher with a gun is a good teacher with, uh, two guns!!!!

posted by Heretic

The only way to stop a bad teacher with a gun is a good teacher with, uh, two guns!!!!

Whether a teacher is allowed to be armed or not, anyone teacher put a gun in their pocket and go into school. Laws don't actually stop people from doing anything. The "oh yea lets arm teachers take" in response to this is dumb.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/georgia-teacher-who-fired-gun-in-classroom-previously-told-police-he-hired-hitmen-report-says/ar-BBJKyvJ?li=BBnbcA1

How was this guy able to keep his job? Sounds like he needed big time help.

posted by ppaw1999

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/georgia-teacher-who-fired-gun-in-classroom-previously-told-police-he-hired-hitmen-report-says/ar-BBJKyvJ?li=BBnbcA1

How was this guy able to keep his job? Sounds like he needed big time help.

Unions. Even without unions, it shouldn't be as hard to fire people as it is, thanks to dumbass lawsuits and whatever else.

Many we are heading down the road where all types of business, school and office will have certified weapon carrier CWC and the legal CCW holder will be able to enter stores with their weapons.  No reason to ban anything all will be protected by those 2nd Amendment individuals. 

Note: I carry my weapon in most stores, bars (dont drink), restaurants, some banks and church (no school property except football games sometimes)   

This entire debate is full of stupid.

A "good guy with a gun" to respond to a shooter is not an acceptable solution.  We don't want these people getting into our schools or workplaces.  Modern technology makes it cheaper AND more effective to secure buildings from unwanted visitors.  The "good guy with a gun" should be like Plan C or D.

posted by gut

This entire debate is full of stupid.

A "good guy with a gun" to respond to a shooter is not an acceptable solution.  We don't want these people getting into our schools or workplaces.  Modern technology makes it cheaper AND more effective to secure buildings from unwanted visitors.  The "good guy with a gun" should be like Plan C or D.

I'll agree that it's not THE acceptable solution. It's a valid part of an overall security plan that as you said, starts with securing the physical plant.

He probably wouldn’t have been able to buy the murder weapon if the school had referred him to law enforcement."

To keep students in school and improve racial outcomes, Broward school Superintendent Robert W. Runcie – a Chicagoan and Harvard graduate with close ties to President Obama and his Education Department – signed an agreement with the county sheriff and other local jurisdictions to trade cops for counseling. Instead of the criminal justice system, students charged with various misdemeanors, including assault, were referred to counseling, which included participation in “healing circles,” obstacle courses and other “self-esteem building” exercises.

https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2018/02/28/obama_administration_school_discipline_policy_and_the_parkland_shooting.html

posted by gut

This entire debate is full of stupid.

A "good guy with a gun" to respond to a shooter is not an acceptable solution.  We don't want these people getting into our schools or workplaces.  Modern technology makes it cheaper AND more effective to secure buildings from unwanted visitors.  The "good guy with a gun" should be like Plan C or D.

I'm all in favor of securing the perimeter. That's always your first line of defense. My one concern is is that we go overboard protective perimeter so much that we will have students and teachers locked in to a situation where no one can enter once you lock those doors and someone's inside with a weapon that makes the matter worse not better. 

Art teacher preparing for school.

posted by HOF on coattails

Art teacher preparing for school.

 

Annnnd said returns with his 4th username. 

posted by QuakerOats

He probably wouldn’t have been able to buy the murder weapon if the school had referred him to law enforcement."

To keep students in school and improve racial outcomes, Broward school Superintendent Robert W. Runcie – a Chicagoan and Harvard graduate with close ties to President Obama and his Education Department – signed an agreement with the county sheriff and other local jurisdictions to trade cops for counseling. Instead of the criminal justice system, students charged with various misdemeanors, including assault, were referred to counseling, which included participation in “healing circles,” obstacle courses and other “self-esteem building” exercises.

https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2018/02/28/obama_administration_school_discipline_policy_and_the_parkland_shooting.html

What has taken you so long to politicize this and blame Obama?  I'm telling you, read about narrative fallacy.  

http://www.13abc.com/content/news/Police-investigating-shots-fired-at-Central-Michigan-University-475658113.html

Same topic as thread, but apparently there is an active shooter in Central Michigan University.

Local 4 WDIV Detroit‏Verified account @Local4News 21m21 minutes ago

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FROM CMU: Central Michigan University police confirm two individuals were fatally shot at Campbell Hall on campus this morning. The deceased are not students and police believe the situation started from a domestic situation.

posted by CenterBHSFan

Same topic as thread, but apparently there is an active shooter in Central Michigan University.

Weird, a non student shows up to a campus with a gun, where people there are (probably) not allowed to have guns. This will be a non-story in a day or two bc it was a black guy with probably a pistol

posted by iclfan2

Weird, a non student shows up to a campus with a gun, where people there are (probably) not allowed to have guns. This will be a non-story in a day or two bc it was a black guy with probably a pistol

Probably, but it will still be counted as a "school shooting" by "Everytown" and similar pieces of human excrement when it likely has little or nothing to do with it taking place on a college campus.

posted by queencitybuckeye

Probably, but it will still be counted as a "school shooting" by "Everytown" and similar pieces of human excrement when it likely has little or nothing to do with it taking place on a college campus.

Precisely. I still can't figure out how he got a gun into a gun-free zone.

posted by like_that

Annnnd said returns with his 4th username. 

Gib me some credit.  He's not that witty.  

posted by HOF on coattails

Gib me some credit.  He's not that witty.  

Gibby?