Protests, Riots, Police trashiness cont.

posted by geeblock

I see it as the movement got hijacked from the founders. This is turning out to be one of the biggest movements in history and 99% of the people in the movement aren’t advocating for Marxism and don’t know what Marxism is and don’t know who the founders are. 

So 99% of the people in the movement don't know what Marxism is - perhaps you are right and I would hope so, because no one in their right mind would allow themselves to be part of a movement that is led by Marxists.

posted by QuakerOats

So 99% of the people in the movement don't know what Marxism is - perhaps you are right and I would hope so, because no one in their right mind would allow themselves to be part of a movement that is led by Marxists.

I made a joke about you not knowing what it is. But if I’m being honest I don’t know or care what it is. 

posted by geeblock

Gangs don’t make their money from weed tho.

Maybe.  But a lot of marijuana does come from Mexico.

And I disagree that gentrification is ending gangs - I think it just displaces them to somewhere else.

I don't know what the solution is.  Gangs exist pretty much everywhere in the world where there are dense areas of poverty.  Dispersing these areas, which is basically breaking it all up into many smaller, hopefully less violent, crime spots isn't typically real popular with the communities receiving that transplant.

It's also interesting to note that Chicago was very successful in dismantling its two dominant gangs.  Perhaps not surprisingly that power void has led to an increase in violence.

posted by geeblock

Minnesota still has all of their police officers. So until u actually see what it looks like just relax. They haven’t even announced what it would be at this point. 

So earlier you said “no one is calling for getting rid of police”

Now that you were showed you were wrong it’s “well let’s just wait and see what it’s like!”

Come on geeblock  you are smarter than this  

posted by jmog

So earlier you said “no one is calling for getting rid of police”

Now that you were showed you were wrong it’s “well let’s just wait and see what it’s like!”

Come on geeblock  you are smarter than this  

There is still going to be police just stop

Edited your post and deleted the other one, geeblock. I just pushed an update so you can start editing your posts from now on.

posted by justincredible

Edited your post and deleted the other one, geeblock. I just pushed an update so you can start editing your posts from now on.

You know....Running a minor league site like this just about qualifies you for VP on the Libertarian ticket.

Probably.

posted by gut

You know....Running a minor league site like this just about qualifies you for VP on the Libertarian ticket.

Next time you are in Columbus I’ll buy u a beer

posted by geeblock

Literally not one person anywhere has said get rid of the police but please 

That’s where your wrong and where the movement loses traction because there are people saying this

posted by sportchampps

That’s where your wrong and where the movement loses traction because there are people saying this

Get rid of police in their current form and get rid of police altogether are two different things. Let’s not be dumb 

I agree with almost everything gblock has said last few pages. 

I agree with gblock on legalizing weed and take it a step further by legalizing ALL drugs. 

posted by like_that

I agree with gblock on legalinzjng weed and take it a step further by legalizing ALL drugs. 

Agreed. Even THOSE drugs.

posted by geeblock

They are moving to get rid of public schools by channeling more money to private schools and for profit schools. Most of the largest public schools are in democratic cities. They also aim to remove protections for special education students. Cutting funding for before and after school programs. Ect.. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/trump-administration-proposes-71-billion-funding-decrease-education/story%3fid=61609098

They're not trying to get rid of public schools they are just looking to defund them and move the money to other more appropriate places where it will do more good especially since the school systems won't reform themselves.  

posted by Tom

They're not trying to get rid of public schools they are just looking to defund them and move the money to other more appropriate places where it will do more good especially since the school systems won't reform themselves.  

I see what you did there... you’re not wrong. 

posted by geeblock

There is still going to be police just stop

AKA you are changing your story since you were found to be wrong.

posted by jmog

AKA you are changing your story since you were found to be wrong.

Lol S&L still agrees after it was proven wrong. Can’t fix stupid. 

The police were defunded in 2008 and crime skyrocketed. Police have millions of interactions with people daily and almost all are without incidents. I think improvements can be made like eliminating no knock warrants, decriminalizing weed, and making police take classes yearly or every other year on the newest deescalation techniques. 

I think we need to take justice reform further by improving the prison system and probation system. There are so many young people who get caught in the system because of probation that they keep in and out their whole lives for minor crimes. 

We also need more police and community interactions especially in minority neighborhoods. How many children are taught to fear the police and not to “snitch”. Instead lets have more community policing where children get to know the officers on their streets and develop relationships so they are not afraid and willing to report crimes to the police. 

Also if we wanna get rid of police unions I’m all for it but let’s also look at other state funded worker unions like teacher unions as well.

Looking forward to S&L's response to this.

Chicago had a dismal response to the census survey, so the mayor announced a "Census Cowboy" to ride into communities to improve response.  I was going to say "isn't a cowboy on a horse a symbol of white supremacy?".  But I guess not - hopefully he doesn't get gunned down (actually, is that a bullet proof vest he's wearing?)