Epstein "Suicide"

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Sun, Aug 11, 2019 11:59 AM

Figured this deserves its own thread.    I am not a conspiracy theorist, but we are all calling bullshit on this right?  Mother fucker was in maximum security, tried to kill himself once before, placed on suicide watch, taken off of it, and then he kills himself...

First question for me is why the fuck was he taken off suicide watch?   At least wait until that POS rats everyone out, then let him kill himself. 


Gardens35 Senior Member
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Sun, Aug 11, 2019 12:33 PM

Take away the political aspect, and we're most likely left with "POS molester kills himself, let's celebrate" and "Good F'n riddance, look how much money he'said saved the taxpayer". Stuff like that, and I'm A-OK with all of it.

Those in the know already know why he was taken off of the suicide watch, the rest of us will soon.

Positive thoughts to the victims, negs toward the molester/s.

 

 

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Sun, Aug 11, 2019 1:01 PM

I just hope the names of the rich and powerful men who used his "services" didn't die with him. If the hammer is still able to fall on them I don't really care that this shitbag is dead. That said, a long miserable life in a jail cell would've been a better punishment for him.

BRF Senior Member
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Sun, Aug 11, 2019 1:45 PM

My first question was also why was he taken off suicide watch?

OSH Kosh B'Gosh
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Sun, Aug 11, 2019 4:33 PM
posted by BRF

My first question was also why was he taken off suicide watch?

This.

He was supposed to be on watch every 30 minutes now? That's a joke. 

Not sure we'll ever truly know the "truth." But, this may be on my list of "what I'd love to know the truth about..." stories.

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Sun, Aug 11, 2019 4:50 PM

Posted this is the poli-meme thread but it's appropriate here, too.

gut Senior Member
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Sun, Aug 11, 2019 5:16 PM
posted by OSH

This.

He was supposed to be on watch every 30 minutes now? That's a joke.

You don't permanently go on suicide watch.  There's a process, which I believe includes psych eval, to be taken off.  I'm sure part of the investigation will be whether the process was properly followed.

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Sun, Aug 11, 2019 5:19 PM
posted by gut

You don't permanently go on suicide watch.  There's a process, which I believe includes psych eval, to be taken off.  I'm sure part of the investigation will be whether the process was properly followed.

So the highest case kid trafficking ring of all time, and they should follow normal procedures? Same as joe schmo morons? This is the sketchiest death of all time. He should have been treated way different than normal clowns. 

Spock Senior Member
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Sun, Aug 11, 2019 5:30 PM
posted by iclfan2

So the highest case kid trafficking ring of all time, and they should follow normal procedures? Same as joe schmo morons? This is the sketchiest death of all time. He should have been treated way different than normal clowns. 

This.  Guards leave....security cameras off.....gtfoh.   guy was taken out before he gave up the big fish.  

gut Senior Member
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Sun, Aug 11, 2019 5:31 PM
posted by iclfan2

So the highest case kid trafficking ring of all time, and they should follow normal procedures? Same as joe schmo morons? This is the sketchiest death of all time. He should have been treated way different than normal clowns. 

Number 1, he wasn't convicted he was awaiting trial.  And number 2 it's not at all surprising to me that a weak old pedophile took the easy way out.

The idea his death is sketchy involves a logical fallacy that he survived one arrest and conviction already, while roaming free and healthy for years after.  Point being, if there was any grand conspiracy here then why wasn't he already dead years ago?

Spock Senior Member
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Sun, Aug 11, 2019 5:33 PM
posted by gut

Number 1, he wasn't convicted he was awaiting trial.  And number 2 it's not at all surprising to me that a weak old pedophile took the easy way out.

The idea his death is sketchy involves a logical fallacy that he survived one arrest and conviction already, while roaming free and healthy for years after.  Point being, if there was any grand conspiracy here then why wasn't he already dead years ago?

He wasn't dead because the major players he had dirt on know better then to murder someone when all they have to do is threaten to kill him and his family.  You keep your mouth shut.  

gut Senior Member
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Sun, Aug 11, 2019 5:39 PM
posted by Spock

He wasn't dead because the major players he had dirt on know better then to murder someone when all they have to do is threaten to kill him and his family.  You keep your mouth shut.  

That's another logical fallacy.  If it were true, then he wouldn't be dead now, either.

And so what was the first attempt - a botched hit, you say?  What kind of amateurs are these rich and powerful people running with, anyway?

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Sun, Aug 11, 2019 7:11 PM
posted by gut

Number 1, he wasn't convicted he was awaiting trial.  And number 2 it's not at all surprising to me that a weak old pedophile took the easy way out.

The idea his death is sketchy involves a logical fallacy that he survived one arrest and conviction already, while roaming free and healthy for years after.  Point being, if there was any grand conspiracy here then why wasn't he already dead years ago?

Which is exactly why you don't take him off of suicide watch...

BRF Senior Member
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Sun, Aug 11, 2019 8:38 PM
posted by like_that

Which is exactly why you don't take him off of suicide watch...

Exactly

OSH Kosh B'Gosh
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Mon, Aug 12, 2019 8:50 AM
posted by gut

You don't permanently go on suicide watch.  There's a process, which I believe includes psych eval, to be taken off.  I'm sure part of the investigation will be whether the process was properly followed.

He was supposed to be watched every 30 minutes. Guess what happened? They failed to watch him every 30 minutes. Just adds to all the theories.

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Mon, Aug 12, 2019 8:55 AM

Regardless of how he died, there are a lot of heavy hitters breathing a sigh of relief.  

 

What this episode really shows is that those in the top clique are really one-in-the-same.  Democrat, republican, liberal, conservative, east coast, west coast - these people always run in the same circles.  Clinton and Trump both knew this guy.  Bubba had his own seat on the Lolita Express and Trump's exclusive club in Palm Beach was a source of some of the teenage girls.  Hell, Trump knew the guy well enough to comment on his taste for the young ones.  

 

Just an example of how we all allow ourselves to be manipulated by these "leaders" into thinking they have our best interests in mind.  Trump and Clinton are cut from the same cloth.  

OSH Kosh B'Gosh
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Mon, Aug 12, 2019 9:14 AM

Now, it turns out that he was supposed to have a cellmate. That cellmate was "mysteriously" transferred with no given reason.

Wasn't checked on for "hours" when it was supposed to be every 30 minutes. No cellmate when there was initially one. All too strange of a coincidence. 

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Mon, Aug 12, 2019 10:55 AM

 

I can hear Vince Foster saying “how convenient”.

Spock Senior Member
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Mon, Aug 12, 2019 10:57 AM
posted by OSH

Now, it turns out that he was supposed to have a cellmate. That cellmate was "mysteriously" transferred with no given reason.

Wasn't checked on for "hours" when it was supposed to be every 30 minutes. No cellmate when there was initially one. All too strange of a coincidence. 

plus no hallway video.......there is no chance that he did this on his own.  To much evidence that it was a hit

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Mon, Aug 12, 2019 11:41 AM
posted by QuakerOats

 

I can hear Vince Foster saying “how convenient”.

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