Covid-19 discussion, continued...

posted by SportsAndLady

Not even sure what you’re asking, but those types of questions (“is there any proof?!”) are typically not able to be proven on both sides. Meaning, if someone asks is there any proof that an asymptomatic person can give the virus to someone, people will use that as a reason to believe that it can’t happen. But just because there’s no proof yet doesn’t mean it can’t happen, because it hasn’t been proven that it CANT happen. We just don’t have a lot of data at this point, so I believe all precautions need to be taken until we really know how it spreads, imo  

Disagree.  The toll on mental health is going to be exponentially worse than this perceived hazard.

I can find no ill effects to healthy persons. 

posted by GOONx19

The worst part of all of this to me is that most agree that Kentucky was going to be one of the better SEC football teams this year, for the first time since I've been a fan.

Aren't league games still happening? 

posted by SportsAndLady

We just don’t have a lot of data at this point, 

posted by Verbal Kint

Disagree.  The toll on mental health is going to be exponentially worse than this perceived hazard.

I can find no ill effects to healthy persons. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/nick-cordero-death-broadway-actor-age-41-coronavirus/

This is my wife’s friends husband. 

posted by Verbal Kint

Disagree.  The toll on mental health is going to be exponentially worse than this perceived hazard.

I can find no ill effects to healthy persons.

"Healthy" is a rather relative term.  "Healthy" people under 50 have definitely died from this, even some with no known or identified comorbidities.  That also happens with the flu every year, but it's already a large toll (and growing) to dismiss as less harmful than lockdowns.

And there are also many "unhealthy" people who would have continued living for many years had they not contracted Covid-19.

That's not to say there isn't a lot of doomsday fear mongering out there.  But this is at least 2X (and probably closer to 5X) as deadly as the flu, and like 3-4X as contagious.  So it is absolutely VERY bad, while the overall risk remains negligible to the majority of a healthy population.

posted by Verbal Kint

Disagree.  The toll on mental health is going to be exponentially worse than this perceived hazard.

I can find no ill effects to healthy persons. 

I agree with the mental health stuff but the rest is BS. Just a completely out of touch take. Blows my mind how people can be so dense.

posted by Rotinaj

I agree with the mental health stuff but the rest is BS. Just a completely out of touch take. Blows my mind how people can be so dense.

So society should reside in a bubble until all known viruses have a vaccine?

posted by kizer permanente

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/nick-cordero-death-broadway-actor-age-41-coronavirus/

This is my wife’s friends husband. 

I see, no known pervious?  Is there any others or is he the only person?

posted by Verbal Kint

I see, no known pervious?  Is there any others or is he the only person?

Yes, I'm sure out of the 137,000 deaths, he was the only healthy person. Just him.

We also have no idea what the long term effects are even when people do recover. A lot of people are still struggling months later. 

Mental health during lockdown and/or life with restrictions is absolutely something to talk about, but there's no need to downplay this. 

posted by Verbal Kint

So society should reside in a bubble until all known viruses have a vaccine?

We need to wear masks and social distance, thats it. But that is apparently too hard for people like yourself that are ignorant to whats even going on. I mean FFS you literally asked if a single healthy person has been affected from this. 

posted by Rotinaj

We need to wear masks and social distance, thats it. But that is apparently too hard for people like yourself that are ignorant to whats even going on. I mean FFS you literally asked if a single healthy person has been affected from this. 

We found one, "just him".  Restrictions are more than masks and social distance.  This will be a mental health crises due to trying to protect those who are at risk due to obtaining risk factors like hypertension from lifestyle decisions.  This was around in January, school age kids went to school for 2 months before being pulled from the classrooms, now we are going to have a generation that will lose how much due to moving the goalpost from a few weeks of "flatten the curve" to wait until a vaccine for this virus is tested and approved?  

You’re just very wrong, and unfortunately there’s probably nothing we can say that will change your mind. Which is scary

I also love this beautiful logic:

Me: we should take precautions 

You: so we should just live in a bubble?!?!

Do you know what precautions are? No one is saying live in a bubble or completely shut down life. But wear a mask, social distance from people, no large gatherings...there’s no reason not to practice those behaviors and be cautious until we truly know how to defeat this or how to prevent the spread. 

Just like FB

This is the type of COVID dashboard I wish were available at the state and US level. 

posted by friendfromlowry

By the way, people with Type A blood are more high risk to get it and get it bad. Type O typically do better. 

Interesting, I am A+ and had it but was asymptomatic. Who knows.

posted by SportsAndLady

Maybe you did get it  (asymptotic) and gave it to your wife and family? Which is what that article was saying is the risk  

Maybe you missed the part where the WHO said research shows that those that are asymptomatic are highly unlikely to transmit the virus.

posted by jmog

Maybe you missed the part where the WHO said research shows that those that are asymptomatic are highly unlikely to transmit the virus.

Oh yes, the WHO know everything about this virus!

posted by SportsAndLady

Oh yes, the WHO know everything about this virus!

Do they know more than even the most brilliant person in this site?

posted by SportsAndLady

Oh yes, the WHO know everything about this virus!

My guess is they know more than SnL does on the virus, but maybe I am wrong here.