Progressives, part 3...

posted by CenterBHSFan

Saw this on twitter and then looked it up on youtube:

Imagine acting like this simply because somebody came in wearing a Trump shirt and MAGA hat lol!

This is what people mean when they say "snowflake."  If a shirt supporting someone you don't agree with incites this sort of response, you're entitled and intolerant.
 

posted by gut

But on a related note, while the video was entertaining, why not just leave?  Why continue to antagonize the guy?  That shirt was pretty over-the-top....makes me think that dude walks around like that hoping to record reactions like that.

Oh, he was obviously looking for the perfect entitled shit to give him a reaction he could film, and this guy certainly gave it to him in spades.
 

posted by Spock

So somehow people can act like that employee and you have to throw in there "that shirt was over the top"......really?  You blame the shirt?

For the better part of our civil society, we shouldnt want people thinking that acting like this little DB is ever a good thing.

Nobody's blaming the shirt for the guy's response.  The response was obviously uncalled for.  Doesn't mean the guy wasn't looking for an uncalled-for response.

Don't pretend to be this dense.
 

posted by Spock

The comment about the shirt is meant to rationalize that in some way that guys behavior is ok because "the shirt was over the top".  

he justified it.  

Again, don't be dense.

Nowhere did he justify it.  He denounced it more thoroughly than his castoff mention of the shirt.
 

posted by Spock

You dont have any proof of that.

William of Occam would disagree.

Elizabeth Warren has announced her bid for Presidency:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/31/us/politics/elizabeth-warren-2020-president-announcement.html

And this section in the article is what should be worrisome for everyone:

the primaries and caucuses next year are likely to be fought over not only who is the most progressive candidate but also which mix of identities should be reflected in the next nominee.

So the media is already pushing for more identity politics. Brace yourself for the cringe.

posted by CenterBHSFan

Elizabeth Warren has announced her bid for Presidency:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/31/us/politics/elizabeth-warren-2020-president-announcement.html

And this section in the article is what should be worrisome for everyone:

So the media is already pushing for more identity politics. Brace yourself for the cringe.

Man ...

Someone call Jared Polis.  The Democratic Party should be putting people like him out there.  Serious.  Sober-minded.  Not calling themselves Native American when they're white as cocaine on a baby's ass.

I went to my gf’s family annual Xmas dinner this year. I’m rural Pennsylvania about 50 miles west of Pittsburgh. This was not just her usual family but it was her full extended family of about 50 or more people. We line up to get a family  photo and I realize that the guy two people over from me has a bright red make America great again hoodie on. It was my gf cousin. I don’t know him, really have only met him maybe twice in the last six years. Whether or not he is a racist I have no idea but in these times we live in I have to assume that if this is your choice if clothing to the Xmas party of your whole family that you are trying to send some type of message. I will admit that I could not help but assume he was probably racist. I basically just avoided him. A few hours later he did take it off. There were two black guys there and we both felt the same way. It’s a shame that is the way things are but these days I will err in the side of caution in that situation and I probably will feel that way in every situation going forward if I don’t know you 🤷‍♂️

posted by geeblock

I went to my gf’s family annual Xmas dinner this year. I’m rural Pennsylvania about 50 miles west of Pittsburgh. This was not just her usual family but it was her full extended family of about 50 or more people. We line up to get a family  photo and I realize that the guy two people over from me has a bright red make America great again hoodie on. It was my gf cousin. I don’t know him, really have only met him maybe twice in the last six years. Whether or not he is a racist I have no idea but in these times we live in I have to assume that if this is your choice if clothing to the Xmas party of your whole family that you are trying to send some type of message. I will admit that I could not help but assume he was probably racist. I basically just avoided him. A few hours later he did take it off. There were two black guys there and we both felt the same way. It’s a shame that is the way things are but these days I will err in the side of caution in that situation and I probably will feel that way in every situation going forward if I don’t know you 🤷‍♂️

Smh. This post is what is wrong with America these days. Guys wearing a hoodie and you label him racist. You don’t even know the guy. 

posted by SportsAndLady

Smh. This post is what is wrong with America these days. Guys wearing a hoodie and you label him racist. You don’t even know the guy. 

Yea I said that actually. Just being honest about how uncomfortable it made me. And it wasn’t the hoodie that made me uncomfortable i see hoodies everyday. When someone says make America great again I have to wonder what year are they referring to? Any ideas? I also get that you may not be able to  see things from my perspective 

So I’m guessing you would concede that lots of racist people wear mags gear. Also non racist people wear mags gear. If I was a non racist and I know that many racist people wear it like a uniform, would I even take the chance knowing I am likely to be labeled a racist? That’s what goes thru my mind. Also I really ain’t taking the time to investigate. You can kick rocks. When I hear the phrase make America great all it makes me think of is let’s go back to when women and blacks couldn’t vote and blacks couldn’t eat at the lunch counter. I should add my gf sister and many members of her family voted for trump as they work in the coal industry, so I don’t think you are racist for voting for trump. Imagine being from rural Ohio or Pennsylvania and spending all your energy worried about an issue that will never affect your life like immigrants or the border 

posted by geeblock

So I’m guessing you would concede that lots of racist people wear mags gear. Also non racist people wear mags gear. If I was a non racist and I know that many racist people wear it like a uniform, would I even take the chance knowing I am likely to be labeled a racist? That’s what goes thru my mind. Also I really ain’t taking the time to investigate. You can kick rocks. When I hear the phrase make America great all it makes me think of is let’s go back to when women and blacks couldn’t vote and blacks couldn’t eat at the lunch counter. I should add my gf sister and many members of her family voted for trump as they work in the coal industry, so I don’t think you are racist for voting for trump. Imagine being from rural Ohio or Pennsylvania and spending all your energy worried about an issue that will never affect your life like immigrants or the border 

My father-in-law, arguably the nicest man I've ever met, has a MAGA hat that he wears from time to time.  It's not because he's racist.  It's just because he's proudly a Republican.

Frankly, his politics are, in my opinion, everything that is wrong with the American public's political milieu (Republican is automatically good, and Democrat is automatically bad, regardless of the actual issues), but there's a delineation between how he believes people should treat each other and what sorts of laws there should be.  I'd wager that's the case with most people, though that doesn't mean they don't often line up.

posted by geeblock

Yea I said that actually. Just being honest about how uncomfortable it made me. And it wasn’t the hoodie that made me uncomfortable i see hoodies everyday. When someone says make America great again I have to wonder what year are they referring to? Any ideas? I also get that you may not be able to  see things from my perspective 

Wow..

posted by O-Trap

My father-in-law, arguably the nicest man I've ever met, has a MAGA hat that he wears from time to time.  It's not because he's racist.  It's just because he's proudly a Republican.

Frankly, his politics are, in my opinion, everything that is wrong with the American public's political milieu (Republican is automatically good, and Democrat is automatically bad, regardless of the actual issues), but there's a delineation between how he believes people should treat each other and what sorts of laws there should be.  I'd wager that's the case with most people, though that doesn't mean they don't often line up.

I wasn't going to give an anecdotal argument, but since you did I will too. I have a member of my family who loves Trump and wears MAGA hats all the time. He's white, but originates mortgages in low income housing areas in Dayton area. He's able to be transferred anywhere else for higher mortgage amounts, but says he loves working on getting mortgages approved for low income families (mostly black families) because he is actively trying to build the community back up. Not a racist bone in his body. But if gblock saw him wearing his stupid MAGA hat, he'd label him a racist. Lol unreal

posted by SportsAndLady

Wow..

So what year was it great?

I saw a guy in a Bengals hoodie at the store.....likely a player for them huh block?  I should have got an autograph.

posted by geeblock

Yea I said that actually. Just being honest about how uncomfortable it made me. And it wasn’t the hoodie that made me uncomfortable i see hoodies everyday. When someone says make America great again I have to wonder what year are they referring to? Any ideas? I also get that you may not be able to  see things from my perspective 

Lol I want to buy a MAGA hat just to trigger people.

posted by SportsAndLady

I wasn't going to give an anecdotal argument, but since you did I will too. I have a member of my family who loves Trump and wears MAGA hats all the time. He's white, but originates mortgages in low income housing areas in Dayton area. He's able to be transferred anywhere else for higher mortgage amounts, but says he loves working on getting mortgages approved for low income families (mostly black families) because he is actively trying to build the community back up. Not a racist bone in his body. But if gblock saw him wearing his stupid MAGA hat, he'd label him a racist. Lol unreal

Yea I mean because no racist ever wears mags gear 

posted by geeblock

I went to my gf’s family annual Xmas dinner this year. I’m rural Pennsylvania about 50 miles west of Pittsburgh. This was not just her usual family but it was her full extended family of about 50 or more people. We line up to get a family  photo and I realize that the guy two people over from me has a bright red make America great again hoodie on. It was my gf cousin. I don’t know him, really have only met him maybe twice in the last six years. Whether or not he is a racist I have no idea but in these times we live in I have to assume that if this is your choice if clothing to the Xmas party of your whole family that you are trying to send some type of message. I will admit that I could not help but assume he was probably racist. I basically just avoided him. A few hours later he did take it off. There were two black guys there and we both felt the same way. It’s a shame that is the way things are but these days I will err in the side of caution in that situation and I probably will feel that way in every situation going forward if I don’t know you 🤷‍♂️

You could just grow up, act like an adult, try to speak to the guy, and find out that he probably isn't as bad as you think. 

posted by SportsAndLady

I wasn't going to give an anecdotal argument, but since you did I will too. I have a member of my family who loves Trump and wears MAGA hats all the time. He's white, but originates mortgages in low income housing areas in Dayton area. He's able to be transferred anywhere else for higher mortgage amounts, but says he loves working on getting mortgages approved for low income families (mostly black families) because he is actively trying to build the community back up. Not a racist bone in his body. But if gblock saw him wearing his stupid MAGA hat, he'd label him a racist. Lol unreal

What does he love about trump?

Geeblock sounds like more of a racist for knowing what the 2 blacks guys thought.  

posted by geeblock

What does he love about trump?

Dude, I don't know.  Trump is a moron, but there are still people that support him. They're morons. But that doesn't make them racist. 

posted by like_that

You could just grow up, act like an adult, try to speak to the guy, and find out that he probably isn't as bad as you think. 

Def didn’t wanna talk politics at a not my family holiday party 

posted by SportsAndLady

Dude, I don't know.  Trump is a moron, but there are still people that support him. They're morons. But that doesn't make them racist. 

Clearly i said all that already. I only asked because you said how much he loves trump so I thought u would know why