LOCKED: Disgusted with progressives

gut Senior Member
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Mon, Jul 2, 2018 4:42 PM
posted by like_that

That group would be significantly smaller.  You either pay the tax or not.  That is much easier to enforce than a the currently tax code and the amount of pages it has.   You don't need an entire agency for that.

I'm have no idea how much smaller it could be.  Most of the current enforcement seems to be focused on determining income/profit of the rich and businesses.  You still need to audit that business to know if they fudged their declared income or not.  The rich guy can have income all over the world he's not declaring if you're not going to audit him.

Maybe that job is a lot easier if you eliminate other loopholes, but less enforcement is going to incentivize more cheating.

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Mon, Jul 2, 2018 4:51 PM

Eliminating the income tax will go a long way toward eliminating the IRS.  States have little problem establishing and enforcing sales tax collections; it is essentially automated.  The brainpower that could be unleashed when freed from the bondage of the tax code would be highly impactful on productive innovation and economic growth. 

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Mon, Jul 2, 2018 5:02 PM
posted by gut

I'm have no idea how much smaller it could be.  Most of the current enforcement seems to be focused on determining income/profit of the rich and businesses.  You still need to audit that business to know if they fudged their declared income or not.  The rich guy can have income all over the world he's not declaring if you're not going to audit him.

Maybe that job is a lot easier if you eliminate other loopholes, but less enforcement is going to incentivize more cheating.

I don't think it would be less enforcement, I just don't think you would need the same amount of people they do now. Certainly not for its own agency. 

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Spock Senior Member
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Mon, Jul 2, 2018 5:22 PM

its amazing how fast some really nice protest signs can be made now

gut Senior Member
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Mon, Jul 2, 2018 6:05 PM
posted by like_that

I don't think it would be less enforcement, I just don't think you would need the same amount of people they do now. Certainly not for its own agency. 

It's already a relatively small number targeted for enforcement - mostly larger businesses and the rich.  I think it's more about how many audits they want to conduct, rather than tax code complexity, that drives the size of that agency.  Simply going to a flat tax doesn't address any of the complexity in revenue recognition, matching of expenses, etc...

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Mon, Jul 2, 2018 6:07 PM
posted by gut

It's already a relatively small number targeted for enforcement - mostly larger businesses and the rich.  I think it's more about how many audits they want to conduct, rather than tax code complexity, that drives the size of that agency.  Simply going to a flat tax doesn't address any of the complexity in revenue recognition, matching of expenses, etc...

It still wouldn't require nearly the amount of people they have now.  

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Tue, Jul 3, 2018 10:46 AM

Lol anyone see this video floating around of the Antifa douche getting his bell rung this past weekend? Dude had a baton and got smoked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idnLKUeiXBU

Spock Senior Member
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Tue, Jul 3, 2018 11:23 AM

antifa uniform......all black clothes, bandana and a backpack.  WTF

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Tue, Jul 3, 2018 11:58 AM

This doesn't represent all people who are conservative any more than these idiots in antifa videos represent all democrats.  

fish82 Senior Member
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Tue, Jul 3, 2018 11:59 AM
posted by iclfan2

Lol anyone see this video floating around of the Antifa douche getting his bell rung this past weekend? Dude had a baton and got smoked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idnLKUeiXBU

That's pretty satisfying. 

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Tue, Jul 3, 2018 12:00 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

This doesn't represent all people who are conservative any more than these idiots in antifa videos represent all democrats.  

That has nothing to do with anything. I didn't even say ANTIFA was liberal. Just like seeing those douches get knocked out. Thanks for your retarded video though. I can post 9,000 from both sides that have morons in it. 

But, I didn't make the rules that the nazis are republican and all republicans are nazis. If you are going to lump them in, you reap what you sow.

queencitybuckeye Senior Member
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Tue, Jul 3, 2018 12:08 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

This doesn't represent all people who are conservative any more than these idiots in antifa videos represent all democrats.  

They are fascists regardless of their self-ironic name. They are the Alt-left that many in the mainstream left deny the existence of. The lunatic fringe exists across the entire political spectrum.

Automatik Senior Member
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Tue, Jul 3, 2018 12:08 PM

lmao. Dude thinks he's hard with a billy club not even knowing how to use it. 

fish82 Senior Member
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Tue, Jul 3, 2018 12:36 PM

Almost as awesome as the 'tard who took the tear gas canister to the nutsack in Phoenix last year. 

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Tue, Jul 3, 2018 12:58 PM
posted by iclfan2

That has nothing to do with anything. I didn't even say ANTIFA was liberal. Just like seeing those douches get knocked out. Thanks for your retarded video though. I can post 9,000 from both sides that have morons in it. 

But, I didn't make the rules that the nazis are republican and all republicans are nazis. If you are going to lump them in, you reap what you sow.

My point was that there are jackasses on both extremes. The antifas are what I would consider leftist extreme.  They are fools and don't represent most people who identify as democrat.  My video was just an example of the same thing on the right.  Idiots abound at the extremes, that's all.  

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Tue, Jul 3, 2018 1:29 PM
posted by iclfan2

That has nothing to do with anything. I didn't even say ANTIFA was liberal. Just like seeing those douches get knocked out. Thanks for your retarded video though. I can post 9,000 from both sides that have morons in it. 

But, I didn't make the rules that the nazis are republican and all republicans are nazis. If you are going to lump them in, you reap what you sow.

If you haven't figured it out yet, boogie is extremely butt hurt off the entire existence of this thread.

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Tue, Jul 3, 2018 1:57 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

My point was that there are jackasses on both extremes. The antifas are what I would consider leftist extreme.  They are fools and don't represent most people who identify as democrat.  My video was just an example of the same thing on the right.  Idiots abound at the extremes, that's all.  

Yes, we completely understand this. But this thread is titled "disgusted with progressives."

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Tue, Jul 3, 2018 2:37 PM
posted by justincredible

Yes, we completely understand this. But this thread is titled "disgusted with progressives."

I get that.  Maybe my post belonged somewhere else.  I got a little lost in the minutia of the thread.  

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