LOCKED: Disgusted with progressives

posted by Spock

good for them.  You know the only group of people on the whole planet that cant march and demonstrate and protest are white males.  Its BS.  

What do white males have to protest? Serious question 

posted by geeblock

What do white males have to protest? Serious question 

The inability to protest, obviously.

posted by geeblock

What do (insert demographic) have to protest? Serious question 

FIFY for accuracy.  I am still waiting to hear what rights white males (citizens of the US to be specific) are afforded that nobody else is afforded in the USA in 2018. 

posted by like_that

FIFY for accuracy.  I am still waiting to hear what rights white males (citizens of the US to be specific) are afforded that nobody else is afforded in the USA in 2018. 

I hear what your saying that is a whole other subject. On paper probably nothing. Certainly there are advantages in the justice system, obtaining credit, most certainly in getting housing especially in affluent areas but anywhere really. It has advantages in the job market I’m sure as well by having more access to connect with certain groups and families. The laws certainly are supposed to treat all as equal but we know there is always a human element. Prohibition outlawed drinking but that didn’t stop people from consuming alcohol. You can’t legislate out racism by passing laws, it takes time. I do find it weird that the very group that has made everything about race for the last 250 years, now wants to make nothing about race because they begin to lose their advantage. When used to a lifetime of privilege, equality can feel like oppression I’m sure. And i know no one in this board was handed anything and every one here pulled themselves up by the bootstraps. I’m just speaking in general terms of what I have seen in the twitter verse. There are zero disadvantages that’s for sure

posted by geeblock

I hear what your saying that is a whole other subject. On paper probably nothing. Certainly there are advantages in the justice system, obtaining credit, most certainly in getting housing especially in affluent areas but anywhere really. It has advantages in the job market I’m sure as well by having more access to connect with certain groups and families. The laws certainly are supposed to treat all as equal but we know there is always a human element. Prohibition outlawed drinking but that didn’t stop people from consuming alcohol. You can’t legislate out racism by passing laws, it takes time. I do find it weird that the very group that has made everything about race for the last 250 years, now wants to make nothing about race because they begin to lose their advantage. When used to a lifetime of privilege, equality can feel like oppression I’m sure. And i know no one in this board was handed anything and every one here pulled themselves up by the bootstraps. I’m just speaking in general terms of what I have seen in the twitter verse. There are zero disadvantages that’s for sure

Soooo the answer is nothing.

posted by geeblock

I hear what your saying that is a whole other subject. On paper probably nothing. Certainly there are advantages in the justice system, obtaining credit, most certainly in getting housing especially in affluent areas but anywhere really. It has advantages in the job market I’m sure as well by having more access to connect with certain groups and families. The laws certainly are supposed to treat all as equal but we know there is always a human element. Prohibition outlawed drinking but that didn’t stop people from consuming alcohol. You can’t legislate out racism by passing laws, it takes time. I do find it weird that the very group that has made everything about race for the last 250 years, now wants to make nothing about race because they begin to lose their advantage. When used to a lifetime of privilege, equality can feel like oppression I’m sure. And i know no one in this board was handed anything and every one here pulled themselves up by the bootstraps. I’m just speaking in general terms of what I have seen in the twitter verse. There are zero disadvantages that’s for sure

Zero disadvantages?

Today you are automatically guilty of white privilage, racism, sexism and many other isms if you are a white male.   I feel like a target for all the victimhood mentality and fake opression going around

posted by geeblock

I hear what your saying that is a whole other subject. On paper probably nothing. Certainly there are advantages in the justice system, obtaining credit, most certainly in getting housing especially in affluent areas but anywhere really. It has advantages in the job market I’m sure as well by having more access to connect with certain groups and families. The laws certainly are supposed to treat all as equal but we know there is always a human element. Prohibition outlawed drinking but that didn’t stop people from consuming alcohol. You can’t legislate out racism by passing laws, it takes time. I do find it weird that the very group that has made everything about race for the last 250 years, now wants to make nothing about race because they begin to lose their advantage. When used to a lifetime of privilege, equality can feel like oppression I’m sure. And i know no one in this board was handed anything and every one here pulled themselves up by the bootstraps. I’m just speaking in general terms of what I have seen in the twitter verse. There are zero disadvantages that’s for sure

Sorry but the majority of this post is a load of crap. 

posted by Spock

Zero disadvantages?

 

Today you are automatically guilty of white privilage, racism, sexism and many other isms if you are a white male.   I feel like a target for all the victimhood mentality and fake opression going around

Please list the disadvantages here. 

The only white male protest I have ever seen is a white nationalist or a klan type protest. It catches backlash not because everyone is white but because they are also racist. I’m laughing because somehow you can’t see that. Or choose to ignore it 

posted by Spock

Zero disadvantages?

 

Today you are automatically guilty of white privilage, racism, sexism and many other isms if you are a white male.   I feel like a target for all the victimhood mentality and fake opression going around

That’s just made up and not true. Even if it was it pales in comparison to what other races have to go thru. If hurt feels is all you have that ain’t much. Does that effect your life? Cost U financially? Or just hurt feelings and playing the victim card u accuse others of 

posted by Spock

Zero disadvantages?

 

Today you are automatically guilty of white privilage, racism, sexism and many other isms if you are a white male.   I feel like a target for all the victimhood mentality and fake opression going around

No you aren't, you stupid fuck. Unless you're ONLY talking about in the minds of the 5-10% farthest left feminazi/white guilt bitch boy demographic. And if you are, I'd wonder why you're so concerned about their opinions to cry about them online. Especially since it'd be in your best interests for them to keep on doing what they're doing, since their over-the-top whining probably played a fairly large role in getting someone like Trump (asshole, not politically correct) into office.

Now if you're talking about you in particular, your combination of stupidity and being trash might elicit that response, but that has a lot more to do with who you are rather than skin color.

posted by geeblock

I hear what your saying that is a whole other subject. On paper probably nothing. Certainly there are advantages in the justice system, obtaining credit, most certainly in getting housing especially in affluent areas but anywhere really. It has advantages in the job market I’m sure as well by having more access to connect with certain groups and families. The laws certainly are supposed to treat all as equal but we know there is always a human element. Prohibition outlawed drinking but that didn’t stop people from consuming alcohol. You can’t legislate out racism by passing laws, it takes time. I do find it weird that the very group that has made everything about race for the last 250 years, now wants to make nothing about race because they begin to lose their advantage. When used to a lifetime of privilege, equality can feel like oppression I’m sure. And i know no one in this board was handed anything and every one here pulled themselves up by the bootstraps. I’m just speaking in general terms of what I have seen in the twitter verse. There are zero disadvantages that’s for sure

Justice system: I agree that the justice system can use some tweaks. The targeting of super predators, I mean blacks, was unfairly baked into the cake by democrats who claimed to friends to the working class, urban communities, the working poor, etc. I think if ever there is a laxation in drug crimes according to the definition of the law, this will certainly this eradicate this practice of targeting certain members of communities. 

Credit: Steps have been taken in the past 10 years or so to stop this practice, and in some instances, give PoC preferences for certain lines of credit. I don't believe this is an issue anymore as a whole. Where I think the problems now are is people not understanding how interest works on a credit line. Too many people paying the minimum payment only and getting strung out on the interest. Some self-teaching needs to happen. You can learn how to properly negotiate credit, mortages, etc. by reading a few free online articles. Or going to a library and doing some quick research. Even banks can advise for free. 

Housing: This one is confusing because many urban areas want better housing with better accommodations, but will later protest "gentrification" or demand expensive improvements without a change in cost to themselves. And there is no happy medium. All too often it is impossible to have a remodel done without a cost to reflect it somewhere. I don't know what the answer is. Probably not a "good" answer at any rate.

Job market: Affirmative Action is a racial discrimination program, already in place, to ensure that more PoC are hired than the dreaded WHITE PATRIARCHY/PRIVILEGE/whatever term you want to use. The major problem that is currently being exposed with AA is that it often discriminates one group of ethnic minorities in favor of another. You see this everywhere now - from colleges/universities to job markets. The only way to fix this is to remove ethnic questions from applications, which will essentially put an end to AA.

Oppression: This word is bandied about all too frequently until it has become a laughable term, much the same way that the word "nazi" has become desensitized. It has become a buzzword or dog whistle for people who want parity and not equality. Even PoC are starting to push back against terms like this because they don't want to be grouped into a collective of people who need to be condescended to and patronized. 

Your assessment of th justice system is laughable. Tweaks? I love how you also got a jab at dems lol. Blacks are over prosecuted and overcharged and given longer sentences than whites for the same crimes. Blacks and Latinos are 50  percent more likely to have their car searched at a traffic stop. I could go on. 

As far as housing did you not see how hard it was for the black charger players who have millions of dollars to buy a house in la? I’m not taking gentrification I’m talking about white people not wanting blacks to move into their neu

All these issues are real things that affect peoples lives. Not fake perception that you are being targeted for being white when you aren’t. Your takes all come from an extremely conservative article 

Anyway my original questions still stand? What are the DISADVANTAGES of being white? 

What protests are white males not allowed to have? What is this protest that singles out white males? 

Also are you saying you would rather be black or Mexican right now? Cmon man be honest you working way to hard to just say things have gotten better but we have a way to go. It really is that easy 

posted by geeblock

Wait. I thought people are always saying what about Chicago? Why don’t they rally against gun violence? I’m not a fan of blocking highways, but this seems like an example of what people were asking for many times on this board

Because there's no such thing as "gun violence", only violence.

posted by queencitybuckeye

Because there's no such thing as "gun violence", only violence.

 

Seems like a nitty take. Really splitting hairs there my guy 

First of all, my whole post was my own words not from some article, conservative, liberal or progressive. To be fair, it's my own assessment of looking at it from all three perspectives and my own lived experiences. 

My family is not only white, but it's black and brown too. Much of my perspective on these issues is from direct communication with these family members over years and years. I was born with black and brown people in my family, from all over the US, not just locally. This is not just interactions at a grocery store. This is my whole life. In other words I am not a disinterested party. I can only advise you to be very careful in your assumptions in people. That's a huge part of the problem. 

If you want to point out that it's hard for black sports players to buy a house in LA, I can easily point out how hard it is rich white movie stars to be allowed to buy an apartment/condo/co-op in NYC and other large cities. There are places that make rich white people submit years of financial documents and tax information, outrageous application fees, background checks and the boards of these buildings can still deny them. So what would you call that? White on White crime? Counter-White-Supremacy? Wealth Oppression? That's not a good example to try and use, geeblock lol!  

Sometimes people just don't get what they want, when they want it or where they want it, and it doesn't matter what color their skin is or how old they are or what their religion (if any) is or what their sexuality is. Sometimes people are just shit out of luck and it affects their lives in one way or another.

I do find it unironically funny that I partially agree with you about one topic (drug crimes - super predators) and you don't acknowledge it. Interesting.

What protests are white males not allowed to have? What is this protest that singles out white males? 

Umm... free speech and free expression marches? Not that this is an exclusive white issue, it is an issue for everybody. But somehow it's always construed as an alt-right event, white supremacy event or some sort of aggression against minorities, even when there are PoC involved. People who try to participate in even simple speeches often have mortars thrown at them, get their heads bashed open, doxxed, fired from their jobs, etc. At this point even the most progressive lefties are starting to call it out. 

Next?

I think racism still exists, I'm not stupid nor do I live in some fantasy world. But not every damn thing is about racism and there's a danger to say that everything involves racism. That's the jist of everything I've posted today. 

posted by geeblock

Seems like a nitty take. Really splitting hairs there my guy 

Not at all. When you misidentify the cause of a problem, you have zero chance of a solution.

posted by CenterBHSFan

First of all, my whole post was my own words not from some article, conservative, liberal or progressive. To be fair, it's my own assessment of looking at it from all three perspectives and my own lived experiences. 

My family is not only white, but it's black and brown too. Much of my perspective on these issues is from direct communication with these family members over years and years. I was born with black and brown people in my family, from all over the US, not just locally. This is not just interactions at a grocery store. This is my whole life. In other words I am not a disinterested party. I can only advise you to be very careful in your assumptions in people. That's a huge part of the problem. 

If you want to point out that it's hard for black sports players to buy a house in LA, I can easily point out how hard it is rich white movie stars to be allowed to buy an apartment/condo/co-op in NYC and other large cities. There are places that make rich white people submit years of financial documents and tax information, outrageous application fees, background checks and the boards of these buildings can still deny them. So what would you call that? White on White crime? Counter-White-Supremacy? Wealth Oppression? That's not a good example to try and use, geeblock lol!  

Sometimes people just don't get what they want, when they want it or where they want it, and it doesn't matter what color their skin is or how old they are or what their religion (if any) is or what their sexuality is. Sometimes people are just shit out of luck and it affects their lives in one way or another.

I do find it unironically funny that I partially agree with you about one topic (drug crimes - super predators) and you don't acknowledge it. Interesting.

Umm... free speech and free expression marches? Not that this is an exclusive white issue, it is an issue for everybody. But somehow it's always construed as an alt-right event, white supremacy event or some sort of aggression against minorities, even when there are PoC involved. People who try to participate in even simple speeches often have mortars thrown at them, get their heads bashed open, doxxed, fired from their jobs, etc. At this point even the most progressive lefties are starting to call it out. 

Next?

 

 

I need examples or links that don’t involve white supremists. I may have missed these people being persecuted over free speech. Especially ones that have people of color. Free speech isn’t even a white male issue.  Also how do the black people in your family react to these hot takes? Are they the ones who are starting to like Candace Owens lol Who gets to decide if something is racist or not?

posted by geeblock

I need examples or links that don’t involve white supremists. I may have missed these people being persecuted over free speech. Especially ones that have people of color. Free speech isn’t even a white male issue.  Also how do the black people in your family react to these hot takes? Are they the ones who are starting to like Candace Owens lol Who gets to decide if something is racist or not?

Which obviously means they aren't "real" black people, right?