2024 Presidential Election Thread

posted by Laley23

So my centrist hope was the DEMS would have a route like this and make the right come back to the middle. Mainly becasue I didnt see a path where Trump would win a route. That was obviously wrong, and so I am now in the same mind as you and hoping the Dems adjust. It is their only chance, really. The first party that migrates back to the center will sweep for awhile until the other side joins them. At this point, it has to be the Democrats moving first. 

I hate to tell you... but the Republicans have already moved.  They beat you guys to it. 

posted by jmog

You are under the impression that he chose to drop out?

Every other American realizes the DNC higher ups forced him out after his dementia was on full display at his lone debate.

They couldn’t keep up the Weekend at Bernie’s gig up anymore.

He was forced out, he didn’t choose shit

No I'm not under the impression he chose to. I'm sure he didn't WANT to. It's still on him for fighting it so long though. I'm positive it wasn't the first time it was told to him though. You heard rumors of Obama and Pelosi wanting him to not run again. Those didn't come from nowhere. There's zero chance that he wasn't fighting it till he couldn't anymore.

posted by Trueblue23

I hate to tell you... but the Republicans have already moved.  They beat you guys to it. 

You think the Republicans with Trump have made a move to the center?

posted by Trueblue23

I hate to tell you... but the Republicans have already moved.  They beat you guys to it. 

Who is "you guys". I am not a Democrat lol. 

posted by kizer permanente

You think the Republicans with Trump have made a move to the center?

They've moved towards fighting fire with fire and trying to beat the Dems at their own game.

Can't say I'm surprised. Probably wouldn't have been surprised if it'd gone the other way. Have so many alleged experts giving their predictions and it's easy to believe anything, even though (or especially because) so many have so little credibility in the end. Like the complete idiot who was calling Iowa to switch 10+% from last time and go to Harris. That pollster is never gonna be taken seriously by anyone ever again.

I'm just glad it's hopefully essentially over. These election cycles just get more stupid and obnoxious as time goes on. I mostly just avoided social media and news media for all of last night and focused on MAC-tion, with the occasional look at what was trending on Twitter. That was enough entertainment for me to watch people go from "We got this!" to "We can still get this!" to "We need stuff to go right to get this, but that happened in 2020 didn't it?!?" to "Oh...FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK!!!".

posted by BR1986FB

They've moved towards fighting fire with fire and trying to beat the Dems at their own game.

Sure.. but neither party has moved towards the center.

Things that make you go hmmmmm....

posted by BR1986FB

Things that make you go hmmmmm....

Exactly

So they cheated to beat Trump in 2020 but didn’t cheat so they wouldn’t beat him in 2024? Makes sense.  

posted by kizer permanente

So they cheated to beat Trump in 2020 but didn’t cheat so they wouldn’t beat him in 2024? Makes sense.  

So the Russians rigged it in 2016 but not 2020?  Makes sense. 

posted by kizer permanente

Sure.. but neither party has moved towards the center.

The center has changed as the dems have moved further and further to the left.

posted by kizer permanente

So they cheated to beat Trump in 2020 but didn’t cheat so they wouldn’t beat him in 2024? Makes sense.  

Probably much easier to do in a COVID election with all of the mail in ballots. That election sent out a huge red flag with the number of votes Biden got. Republicans were extremely diligent to be on top of this in 2024, hiring attorneys, etc to monitor the polls.

With most people not going into voting locations in 2020, is it REALLY that difficult to imagine that an election couldn't be tampered with?

It's water under the bridge now but it's glaring to think Weekend at Bernie's got 15 million more voters than anyone in the last 4 cycles.

The replies are glorious

Congratulations to Vice President-elect JD Vance, an alumnus of The Ohio State University and native Ohioan.

— Ohio State (@OhioState) November 6, 2024

That's my VP.

posted by kizer permanente

So they cheated to beat Trump in 2020 but didn’t cheat so they wouldn’t beat him in 2024? Makes sense.  

Harder to cheat a 2nd time

posted by justincredible

That's my VP.

I was very critical of the JD pick, but man I was wrong.  He was great on Theo's podcast, just a normal dude.

posted by Trueblue23

I was very critical of the JD pick, but man I was wrong.  He was great on Theo's podcast, just a normal dude.

He ended up being solid. Still hilarious they tried calling him weird while rolling out Walz. Him vs. Newsome/Shapiro in the future would be interesting.

The Dem party has tried to manage everything, from start to finish, with brute force. 

From weaponizing the govt against private citizens, political persecutions to the lawfare, the govt  forcing social medias to censor and ban people (remember that they banned a news publication [NYPost] because they reported a true story) to stop the free flow of information, brazenly bragging about siding with the military industrial complex for forever wars, having MSM cooperate in enacting some of the biggest hoaxes ever put on the American people.

Is there anything good left in the Democrats? I mean it, it's an honest question. Box Trump away for a minute and ask yourself that question. Is there ANY good principle that they haven't betrayed? 

And for what?

posted by Trueblue23

The replies are glorious

Congratulations to Vice President-elect JD Vance, an alumnus of The Ohio State University and native Ohioan.

— Ohio State (@OhioState) November 6, 2024

Even 30 sec in those comments will make your day.