posted by Laley23Did I see Harris didn’t gain in a single county in the entire damn country? That is incredible. LOL. What a horribly run campaign from start (no primary) to finish (Harris never having a plan).
I’m not convinced Trumps economic plan will work (on surface it seems like it will be worse), but here’s to hoping.
She's the worst candidate of all-time. Would've had a better shot with Biden, which is hilarious.
posted by Trueblue23She's the worst candidate of all-time. Would've had a better shot with Biden, which is hilarious.
No he wouldn't. Polling shows how much of a gap she closed vs him. He woulda got beat worse.
I agree with others on here that Biden shares most of the blame as he took way too long to drop out.
Credit to Trump. He knew his issues were the economy and immigration and those carried the day for most people.
I just hope his tariffs do not screw up the economy, but we will see.
posted by ptown_trojans_1Credit to Trump. He knew his issues were the economy and immigration and those carried the day for most people.
But how did everyone not know that? Trump way outperformed the Hispanic vote, especially in south Texas. They don’t like it either. I also saw an exit poll where Kamala only outperformed Trump on abortion by less than 10 points. Looks like we all missed on what impact that would have, especially now that the President doesn’t have much of a say in it.
I think Elon buying Twitter played a role in the election too. Yes it is a cesspool, but it is also the biggest platform to battle the left’s monopoly on media, allowing another side of a story to be heard.
And calling half the country Nazi’s and garbage probably isn’t the best idea, but will they learn anything from it?
posted by iclfan2But how did everyone not know that? Trump way outperformed the Hispanic vote, especially in south Texas. They don’t like it either. I also saw an exit poll where Kamala only outperformed Trump on abortion by less than 10 points. Looks like we all missed on what impact that would have, especially now that the President doesn’t have much of a say in it.
I think Elon buying Twitter played a role in the election too. Yes it is a cesspool, but it is also the biggest platform to battle the left’s monopoly on media, allowing another side of a story to be heard.
And calling half the country Nazi’s and garbage probably isn’t the best idea, but will they learn anything from it?
Yeah agreed. I thought Harris not focusing on the economy was a huge error. Instead, it was the Trump is a threat argument, which people don't care about anymore.
Agreed on Twitter, X. But, credit to Trump too for going on other media platforms like Joe Rogan and new type of media, podcasts.
Will Ds learn anything from it? I doubt it lol, but depends on how hard they want to go in on the whole Resistance 2.0.
posted by ptown_trojans_1Yeah agreed. I thought Harris not focusing on the economy was a huge error. Instead, it was the Trump is a threat argument, which people don't care about anymore.
Agreed on Twitter, X. But, credit to Trump too for going on other media platforms like Joe Rogan and new type of media, podcasts.
Will Ds learn anything from it? I doubt it lol, but depends on how hard they want to go in on the whole Resistance 2.0.
This is a good opportunity for the Democrats to move back toward the center - they're so far left they've lost the common man vote. They ran on two principals - abortion and Trumpisbad... and it backfired miserably.
posted by ptown_trojans_1Yeah agreed. I thought Harris not focusing on the economy was a huge error. Instead, it was the Trump is a threat argument, which people don't care about anymore.
Agreed on Twitter, X. But, credit to Trump too for going on other media platforms like Joe Rogan and new type of media, podcasts.
Will Ds learn anything from it? I doubt it lol, but depends on how hard they want to go in on the whole Resistance 2.0.
A lot of her issues were the flip flopping and not giving a straight answer.
Trump was decisive and focused on the issues and repeatedly hammered that home. Every time I heard him speak he would be saying something like "do you like your grocery bill?, Is the country better off now than it was 4 years ago?", etc, etc.
If she would've come out and said "this is my economic plan and what I intend to do" she might not have come across as being so shady/elusive....like she was hiding something. This and being pretty unlikeable were big issues for her. If they trot out someone like Shapiro (PA) in 2028 they would have a better shot, imo.
Not picking Shapiro was a massive, massive misstep. Tim Walz contributed nothing but poor headlines for Kamala.
posted by Trueblue23Not picking Shapiro was a massive, massive misstep. Tim Walz contributed nothing but poor headlines for Kamala.
You're wrong on Walz. He was a real good punching bag for Antonio Brown on Twitter. lol
Thank god this is over so my lady doesn't have to hear our 5 years old grandson say "OMG, Mimi....I so sick of Sherrod Brown." LOL
Gotta wonder how much Israel stance hurt Kamala too.
posted by BR1986FBI actually think this could be the best thing that happens to the Dems. I get your "teach them a lesson" mentality here but maybe now they will slide back toward the middle and get a more even keel candidate than these radicals. I'm not guaranteeing that Trump will be the cure all but the country couldn't take a chance on electing that.
I hope you're right, would be nice.
I do hope that Republicans keep inching away from the establishments order. Maybe the Dems will do the same.
posted by kizer permanenteGotta wonder how much Israel stance hurt Kamala too.
It did hurt her somewhat, according to the vote counts (Jill Stein and others). Looks to me that many people weaponized Trump again rather than color outside the lines.
While I'm not a fan of Trump, I'm kind of glad the Senate went Republican. At least stuff will get through. 4 years of locked up arguing - I don't want to listen to that. Trump has no excuse to not execute on his promises to fix everything. I hope it works.
Josh Shapiro. I immediately questioned Kamala's choice if VP as soon as she announced it. Pennsylvania would have given her double the votes that Walz's state did. But he was too Jew for the razor edge she is walking on.
posted by kizer permanenteEh... this falls squarely on Biden. There's no way he didn't know how unpopular he was, right? He shoulda said he wasn't running again, had an open primary, then given that candidate a chance to run a campaign. Dropping out right before the election is on him IMO.
You are under the impression that he chose to drop out?
Every other American realizes the DNC higher ups forced him out after his dementia was on full display at his lone debate.
They couldn’t keep up the Weekend at Bernie’s gig up anymore.
He was forced out, he didn’t choose shit
posted by ptown_trojans_1I agree with others on here that Biden shares most of the blame as he took way too long to drop out.
Credit to Trump. He knew his issues were the economy and immigration and those carried the day for most people.
I just hope his tariffs do not screw up the economy, but we will see.
Biden didn’t choose 💩 he was forced out once they couldn’t hide his dementia anymore.
posted by kizer permanenteGotta wonder how much Israel stance hurt Kamala too.
Which one?
Her ad in Michigan that supported Palestine or the ad in Pennsylvania that supported Israel?
It’s almost like she forgot the internet existed and wouldn’t be called out for that.
posted by BR1986FBI actually think this could be the best thing that happens to the Dems. I get your "teach them a lesson" mentality here but maybe now they will slide back toward the middle and get a more even keel candidate than these radicals. I'm not guaranteeing that Trump will be the cure all but the country couldn't take a chance on electing that.
So my centrist hope was the DEMS would have a route like this and make the right come back to the middle. Mainly becasue I didnt see a path where Trump would win a route. That was obviously wrong, and so I am now in the same mind as you and hoping the Dems adjust. It is their only chance, really. The first party that migrates back to the center will sweep for awhile until the other side joins them. At this point, it has to be the Democrats moving first.
posted by jmogYou are under the impression that he chose to drop out?
Every other American realizes the DNC higher ups forced him out after his dementia was on full display at his lone debate.
They couldn’t keep up the Weekend at Bernie’s gig up anymore.
He was forced out, he didn’t choose shit
I was laughing because someone speculated that Biden secretly wanted her to lose by making some of his gaffes/comments in public after they did him dirty (garbage comment, etc). Kind of a nonchalant heel turn.
