2024 Presidential Election Thread

kizer permanente Senior Member
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Wed, Nov 6, 2024 1:27 PM
posted by QuakerOats


No, Trump had 74 million in '20; and currently has 72 million and will likely end up around 74 million. 


Can we ask again, are you able to explain extreme deviation from normal in '20 for the dem candidate. 



I already did. And it, unsurprisingly, was too much for you. 

Trump went from 62 mil to 74 mil from 16 to 20. Did he cheat too? Of course not. No reasonable person would assume that. But, reasonable is the key word here. 

queencitybuckeye Senior Member
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Wed, Nov 6, 2024 1:32 PM

A couple of unrelated things.

1. Anyone who has participated in the election process knows that significant cheating is all but impossible.

2. Someone on one of the Sunday morning shows (wish I remember who) suggested that we would be better served basing our votes on the relative integrity of the candidates rather than issues, even important ones. I tend to agree.


CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Wed, Nov 6, 2024 2:10 PM
posted by queencitybuckeye


2. Someone on one of the Sunday morning shows (wish I remember who) suggested that we would be better served basing our votes on the relative integrity of the candidates rather than issues, even important ones. I tend to agree.


What? 

"relative integrity" is just another way of saying that likeability is more important than ability to solve problems. To me that just sounds like DEI- adjacent. 

Yeah, I will just kind of respectfully disagree.

kizer permanente Senior Member
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Wed, Nov 6, 2024 2:18 PM

On the flip side… I am seeing what some of you are talking about as far as the melodrama from my Democrat friends on Facebook today lol. It’s really not as serious as the examples you’re using. 

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
7,259 posts 55 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Nov 6, 2024 2:30 PM

I've been trying to explain to some people that it's not the Supreme Court's job to create laws and kicking the abortion topic back to the states is the correct course of action. And boy, they just do not want to hear it. They still make the claim that RvW was law in fact. It really makes me wonder just how sick the state of our education system really has become. 

When I graduated HS in the late 80's, the separation of govt powers was taught in clear terms, boring as all that was. Are our schools not as good about some classes as they have been in the past? Is it a national, state or district problem? I'm trying to understand where this lack of knowledge is coming from. 

queencitybuckeye Senior Member
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Wed, Nov 6, 2024 2:37 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

What? 

"relative integrity" is just another way of saying that likeability is more important than ability to solve problems. To me that just sounds like DEI- adjacent. 

Yeah, I will just kind of respectfully disagree.

Just the opposite, actually. It's saying that doing what is right (while admittedly subjective) is better than what is popular.

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
7,259 posts 55 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Nov 6, 2024 2:54 PM

Arizona is all that remains.

33,369 posts 133 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Nov 6, 2024 3:03 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

I've been trying to explain to some people that it's not the Supreme Court's job to create laws and kicking the abortion topic back to the states is the correct course of action. And boy, they just do not want to hear it. They still make the claim that RvW was law in fact. It really makes me wonder just how sick the state of our education system really has become. 

When I graduated HS in the late 80's, the separation of govt powers was taught in clear terms, boring as all that was. Are our schools not as good about some classes as they have been in the past? Is it a national, state or district problem? I'm trying to understand where this lack of knowledge is coming from. 

RvW should have never been a federal issue. I think the reasonings for the SC taking on the case as a constitutional right or not is debatable, though. And at that point, my problem is I hate overturning it without explicitly making it a law. 

I do not really think a previous SC judgements should be overturned just because a new Justice has a different thought. Sets a bad precedent, imo. If you want a judgment overturned, it should have to be codified. 

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Wed, Nov 6, 2024 3:36 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

Arizona is all that remains.

If Arizona falls for Trump, I want Justin picking my lottery tickets the next time I play.

Ironman92 Administrator
56,729 posts 168 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Nov 6, 2024 3:36 PM

My FB Dems….

jmog Senior Member
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Wed, Nov 6, 2024 3:36 PM
posted by kizer permanente

On the flip side… I am seeing what some of you are talking about as far as the melodrama from my Democrat friends on Facebook today lol. It’s really not as serious as the examples you’re using. 

My favorite so far is the women and/or trans people crying saying they don’t understand how people can believe the price of a loaf of bread is more important than their very LIVES!


Like women and trans people are going to be in front of firing squads come Jan


8,788 posts 20 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Nov 6, 2024 3:41 PM

I have very liberal friends going through things today. Very 2016 like. 

I figured the writing was on the wall a few weeks before last night. 

Cook Political Report is stating the Republicans have a decent chance to hold the House.

So, Republicans could get the full sweep.

BR1986FB Senior Member
27,923 posts 126 reps Joined Feb 2010
Wed, Nov 6, 2024 3:44 PM
posted by jmog

My favorite so far is the women and/or trans people crying saying they don’t understand how people can believe the price of a loaf of bread is more important than their very LIVES!


Like women and trans people are going to be in front of firing squads come Jan


I chuckle when I see these young girls, crying with their hands over their faces. It's as if their plan to get pregnant and then abort has been thwarted when they probably don't know how this works.

When Trump got elected in 2016, my "save the world/I'm smarter than everyone else/Green Party" nephew called my younger sister (his mom) curled up in the fetal position crying that the "world was coming to an end.....because, Trump."

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
7,259 posts 55 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Nov 6, 2024 3:55 PM
posted by Ironman92

My FB Dems….

By the wording that person is a teacher. I never knew, and still don't upon thought, what politics my old teachers held. Maybe one male teacher who taught social studies, just from the way he dressed lol.


brutus161 The Navy Guy
1,688 posts 25 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Nov 6, 2024 4:26 PM
posted by Ironman92

My FB Dems….

Ruthkanda Forever!

33,369 posts 133 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Nov 6, 2024 4:29 PM

Woe is me posts are the absolute worst. Main reason I ditched FB 10 yrs back. Twitter is getting just as bad, but still too many journalists and sporting folks I like. 

friendfromlowry Senior Member
7,778 posts 87 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Nov 6, 2024 4:48 PM

Reddit is the absolute worst and it’s not even close. I’m apart of the Facepalm and Wellthatsucks subreddits and it’s just endless posts about how fucked we are. 

Trueblue23 BASEDgod
7,504 posts 18 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Nov 6, 2024 4:50 PM
posted by friendfromlowry

Reddit is the absolute worst and it’s not even close. I’m apart of the Facepalm and Wellthatsucks subreddits and it’s just endless posts about how fucked we are. 

Go to the suicide sub...... insanity.

QuakerOats Senior Member
11,701 posts 66 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Nov 6, 2024 4:50 PM
posted by Ironman92

My FB Dems….



So, no mention of being saved from socialism? 

friendfromlowry Senior Member
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Wed, Nov 6, 2024 4:58 PM
posted by Trueblue23

Go to the suicide sub...... insanity.

Sounds like a bad time even if there wasn’t an election yesterday. 

Why are you on the suicide subreddit. Do you want to talk about your feelings?

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