2020 Presidential Election thread

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Yet, no one except the White House press people is denying the story. It is a lot of no comments. Jeff Goldberg does not just make up shit. The comments also make sense as they fall in line with comments Trump has made about McCain. The Woodward stuff is just the latest in a long line of bad quotes, so yeah it will go away, But will just be baked into all the other shit he says. 

The DHS stuff is just the continuation of the squashed intel report a few weeks ago and I wouldn't link them with all the other shit that is going on. 

The USPS controversy is still going on and Dejoy may have to resign for violating NC campaign law.. Gotta keep up man. 

It’s hard to keep up with the news overseas let alone trump hate porn. Trump’s quote came out two years later from an anonymous source. Not even a full 24 hours after the “story” broke we had media conducting morning interviews with heartbroken vets.  QO has more credibility with his conspiracy thread than this story. You’re smarter than that. There are plenty of other trump stories to get worked up over. This ain’t it.  If there is one thing I will appreciate for Trump it’s the fact he (mostly inadvertently) exposed how full of shit the media is. That’s why nobody trusts them and it’s going to take decades for them to gain any trust back.  It will be interesting to see how the media adjusts when trump is gone and they no longer have trump hate porn to drive up revenue. 

posted by like_that

It’s hard to keep up with the news overseas let alone trump hate porn. Trump’s quote came out two years later from an anonymous source. Not even a full 24 hours after the “story” broke we had media conducting morning interviews with heartbroken vets.  QO has more credibility with his conspiracy thread than this story. You’re smarter than that. There are plenty of other trump stories to get worked up over. This ain’t it.  If there is one thing I will appreciate for Trump it’s the fact he (mostly inadvertently) exposed how full of shit the media is. That’s why nobody trusts them and it’s going to take decades for them to gain any trust back.  It will be interesting to see how the media adjusts when trump is gone and they no longer have trump hate porn to drive up revenue. 

Yeah, again, Jeff Goldberg has more credibility than that. I've read his stuff for over 20 years and he is always been a credible reporter. He is not one to make shit up or get played for quotes. 

Also, they would all revert back to pre-2016 like most of us will I hope.  But, Trump is not going away quietly. He will still be on whatever media spouting off crazy shit even after he is gone. 

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Yeah, again, Jeff Goldberg has more credibility than that. I've read his stuff for over 20 years and he is always been a credible reporter. He is not one to make shit up or get played for quotes. 

Also, they would all revert back to pre-2016 like most of us will I hope.  But, Trump is not going away quietly. He will still be on whatever media spouting off crazy shit even after he is gone. 

Ahh yes, I recall the same thing being said about Ronan Farrow and other reporters during the Kavanaugh fiasco (just a small sample of journalists who have taken a credibility hit). I revert back to my previous comment.  I will appreciate Trump for exposing the media for what they truly are.  

And speaking of pre-2016 media, I am sure you will take "credible" anonymous sources about democrat administrations for face value, just like you did for the Obama admin and Hillary campaign. 

posted by like_that

Ahh yes, I recall the same thing being said about Ronan Farrow and other reporters during the Kavanaugh fiasco (just a small sample of journalists who have taken a credibility hit). I revert back to my previous comment.  I will appreciate Trump for exposing the media for what they truly are.  

And speaking of pre-2016 media, I am sure you will take "credible" anonymous sources about democrat administrations for face value, just like you did for the Obama admin and Hillary campaign. 

Yes..the two are exactly the same. Come on. 

Anonymous stories are not all created equal. Jeff Goldberg and Woodward are pretty damn credible.  

I think this all matters as it is just more shit and evidence that Trump is an asshole and is only in it for himself. I think the voters are tired of his actions and statements. 

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Yeah, that is not indiucative of anything. I drove over to the Maryland Eastern shore and downstate Delaware over the holiday. I saw a ton of Trump signs. That does not mean Trump is winning Maryland or Delaware. 

posted by justincredible

I was more confirming your post...yard signs mean shit. 

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Yes..the two are exactly the same. Come on. 

Anonymous stories are not all created equal. Jeff Goldberg and Woodward are pretty damn credible.  

I think this all matters as it is just more shit and evidence that Trump is an asshole and is only in it for himself. I think the voters are tired of his actions and statements. 

Did Biden steal “come on” from you? The comparison is a journalist who was considered very credible reporting something that turned out to be bullshit.  It is very much the same thing. Come on!

I am not sure the public needs any more convincing that Trump is an asshole. That was established well before 2016. I do know though  your last paragraph pretty much lines up with the media playbook for the last 4 years, and thus why they will throw shit at a wall (credible or not to see if it sticks). This is most likely why you will take the story without even any ounce of skepticism. You’re the media’s best type of consumer. At least Woodward has recordings and the quotes are somewhat fresh.  I wish my papers in college were held to the same standard as our journalists with phantom 2 year old anonymous sources providing gossip/hearsay.  I would have spent a fourth of the time writing those papers. I wish, like you  I could  believe that everything will go back to normal with the media, but I am not naive enough. History doesn’t end when Trump leaves the office. Nobody is going to forget that the media lost their credibility.

posted by ptown_trojans_1

We are post Labor Day and Post Convention and the race is largely the same. Biden is still ahead by 7-9 points and about 1-3 points in the battleground states. Seems like most people's minds are set already and the debates may or may not move the needle much. If you look at 538 where they capture all the polls, Biden is up in most polls in all the battleground states, 

I highly doubt he wins them all, but that is still something. Biden is even up in AZ by 5-8 points, which is really something given how Trump campaigned in 2016. Trump will have to pull an even bigger upset than he did in 2016 if he does not close ground in all these battleground states. I do think the mail in voting aspect and how that may impact voter turnout is a huge factor in how this shakes down. 

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/

I was also playing around on 270 to win and even if Trump wins PA, OH, and FL, he can still lose the election if Biden takes MI, WI, the two Congressional districts and AZ. 

https://www.270towin.com/maps/p20yy

The fact that you believe the Atlantic article and believe ANYTHING coming from Schiff at this point really ruins your credibility ptown.

The only thing with any teeth is the downplaying of the virus, which to be honest both parties are guilty of.

posted by like_that

Did Biden steal “come on” from you? The comparison is a journalist who was considered very credible reporting something that turned out to be bullshit.  It is very much the same thing. Come on!

I am not sure the public needs any more convincing that Trump is an asshole. That was established well before 2016. I do know though  your last paragraph pretty much lines up with the media playbook for the last 4 years, and thus why they will throw shit at a wall (credible or not to see if it sticks). This is most likely why you will take the story without even any ounce of skepticism. You’re the media’s best type of consumer. At least Woodward has recordings and the quotes are somewhat fresh.  I wish my papers in college were held to the same standard as our journalists with phantom 2 year old anonymous sources providing gossip/hearsay.  I would have spent a fourth of the time writing those papers. I wish, like you  I could  believe that everything will go back to normal with the media, but I am not naive enough. History doesn’t end when Trump leaves the office. Nobody is going to forget that the media lost their credibility.

Do I think all of the quotes in the Atlantic are real, no.  Do I think some are, more than likely as it fits the pattern of public statements the President has made over the years. 

On the media, I am just not as cynical as you are on this. I do read news articles with skepticism, but I do not dismiss the whole media as a result. There are good apples and bad ones, like most things in life. 

I do think voters are tired of Trump and his asshole nature. It seems like voters have grown tired of it and thought he would change and grow into the Presidency. Those voters are now breaking from Trump to Biden in those swing states like WI, PA, and AZ. That is why it is easy to dismiss each story on its own, but collectively, it is just evidence that Trump is still the same guy as he was in 2016.  Trump is his own worst enemy and it may cost him. 

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Yet, no one except the White House press people is denying the story. It is a lot of no comments. Jeff Goldberg does not just make up shit. The comments also make sense as they fall in line with comments Trump has made about McCain. The Woodward stuff is just the latest in a long line of bad quotes, so yeah it will go away, But will just be baked into all the other shit he says. 

The DHS stuff is just the continuation of the squashed intel report a few weeks ago and I wouldn't link them with all the other shit that is going on. 

The USPS controversy is still going on and Dejoy may have to resign for violating NC campaign law.. Gotta keep up man. 

Everybody is denying the story because it is complete bullshit.

But this bullshit is to be expected; there will be a hit job like this at least once a week until November 3rd --- we fully expect it; the left and their media allies are like clockwork - a well-choreographed hit piece, after hit piece. 

Tactics get old.

posted by  Q Onon

But this bullshit is to be expected - a well-choreographed hit piece, after hit piece. 

Tactics get old.

Yep. Same old shit. Attack the source, deny deny deny , and then yell hoax or fake news. 

The only problem is, Trump has no credibility. He has no leadership ability because most do not trust him. He lies more than he tells the truth. Even his supporters can’t tell the difference and follow him like the retarded sheep that they are.

The rest of the pubes are as bad as the Muslims they claim they hate. They demonstrate this by not calling him out on his abhorrent behavior.

 Not saying that this is the exact situation in this board but I always laugh when people go back and forth on social media about whether or not someone said something and there is literally a recording. Seems to be happening more and more. 

THe media and their bias reporting to slant everything or run with unverified info is going to hurt them because they will get no "October surprise".

Pubs will get that one

You dudes ready for my prediction yet? 

posted by fish82

You dudes ready for my prediction yet? 

Yes.

So like Ptown would say, shocked no one has brought up that the republicans had a “skinny” Covid Bill up for debate and the dems filibustered it (a relic of Jim Crow per Obama). Weird. I guess people needing money will just have to wait for after the election to get help. 

posted by iclfan2

So like Ptown would say, shocked no one has brought up that the republicans had a “skinny” Covid Bill up for debate and the dems filibustered it (a relic of Jim Crow per Obama). Weird. I guess people needing money will just have to wait for after the election to get help. 

Also very shocked ptown hasn’t brought up the credible Atlantic advocating for the Nobel Peace Prize to be ended. 

posted by like_that

Also very shocked ptown hasn’t brought up the credible Atlantic advocating for the Nobel Peace Prize to be ended. 

LOL....seriously?!?

posted by Automatik

Trump weirdos all over the place in the Ohio Valley. Flags out of car windows on the highway, posted up yelling on the side of the road. I even saw one guy cruising around talking out of a bullhorn. 

You'd think it was an economically booming area thanks to Donald. LOL

Truth!

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Maybe because they are just single House Reps, 4 out of 435, and there are more important things to focus on now. 

I wonder why this board hasn't mentioned the Atlantic article last week, or the Woodward quotes yesterday, or even the DHS whistleblower report from yesterday as well?

Trump has spoken ill of the military, downplayed the virus, and his own DHS is downplaying right wing threats. Maybe that is why Trump is down in the polls?

Did you see the interview where the woman who owns The Atlantic (I can't remember her name) openly said that her goal was to write the stories in the way that she and others would like them to be written?