The Russia/Ukraine situation

majorspark Senior Member
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Sun, Jun 25, 2023 11:29 PM
posted by gut

Throughout there has also been plenty of propaganda flowing the other direction.  Remember all the reports of Putin's failing health?

The two theories that make the most sense to me are 1) false flag (not sure how this makes sense, but it explains a lot) or 2) he didn't have the support he needed to win, and so he hit the eject button.

In other words, maybe not a coup at all, but definitely not a successful coup.  I've never seen a coup where the head of the insurgency self-exiles while the current leader retains power.

Like you said #1 don't make sense.  The Russians don't do false flags that show weakness.  On #2 they downed a significant amount of Russian aircraft in a very short period of time.  Something the Ukrainians have rarely accomplished in that short period of time during the war.  They took down a command and control plane.  This is not done without intelligence.  Another thing I noticed is the lack of tanks defending Moscow.  Civilian dump trucks blocking roads and excavators digging them up.

I have never seen a failed coup where the supposed leader of it is chauffeured out of town in a government looking suv stopping to shake hands with the locals with heavy military military vehicles on the road behind.  Has Putin shown himself in public since the coup has been overthrown?  Time will tell.

superman Senior Member
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Mon, Jun 26, 2023 4:54 PM

Pretty obvious what happened.

Wagner: Vladdy Daddy, the US just offered me $6.2 Billion to overthrow you.

Putin: Cool, let's take a coup and split the money.  

Joe Biden: (Cuts check and drools) 

gut Senior Member
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Mon, Jun 26, 2023 4:58 PM
posted by superman

Pretty obvious what happened.

Wagner: Vladdy Daddy, the US just offered me $6.2 Billion to overthrow you.

Putin: Cool, let's take a coup and split the money.  

Joe Biden: (Cuts check and drools) 

It would be entertaining to see Trump bragging about how he would have bribed Wagner so much better than Biden did.

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Tue, Jun 27, 2023 9:15 AM

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justincredible Honorable Admin
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Thu, Jun 29, 2023 2:19 PM

gut Senior Member
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Thu, Jun 29, 2023 5:25 PM
posted by justincredible

OK, Newsweek doesn't jump to mind for hard-hitting journalism, but how does anyone with a working brain even print that?

Trump might hire Seagal, but most people think Putin is, you know, smart.

majorspark Senior Member
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Thu, Jun 29, 2023 6:23 PM

Now that they have dragged Greta Thunberg into this.  The Russians are surely doomed.

gut Senior Member
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Thu, Jun 29, 2023 6:30 PM
posted by majorspark

Now that they have dragged Greta Thunberg into this.  The Russians are surely doomed.

The fact that she's calling the destruction of a man-made dam "ecocide" shows just how truly dumb she is.

majorspark Senior Member
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Thu, Jun 29, 2023 9:30 PM
posted by gut

The fact that she's calling the destruction of a man-made dam "ecocide" shows just how truly dumb she is.

She is being financially rewarded by international governments.  Maybe she or the powers behind her are not as dumb as you think.

Heretic Son of the Sun
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Fri, Jun 30, 2023 8:02 AM
posted by majorspark

She is being financially rewarded by international governments.  Maybe she or the powers behind her are not as dumb as you think.

Yeah, if I can say stupid shit and be known world-wide and financially benefit from it because certain demographics treat me as a new-age messiah, I'd say I'm not the dumb one.

Fletch Member
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Fri, Jun 30, 2023 9:55 AM

This must be terrifying,  Dumbburg and Pence over there recently.

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Fri, Jun 30, 2023 9:52 PM
posted by Fletch

Dumbburg

Great job!!! - Very funny!!


majorspark Senior Member
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Wed, Jul 5, 2023 9:28 PM
posted by majorspark

Time will tell.

I was pretty much convinced gut was right after my post.  I am not so sure anymore.  This Prigozhin dude, the leader of the armed rebellion, showed up in St Petersburg in a security protected convoy of government vehicles.  Supposedly to retrieve some vintage rifles.   The term weird has been used.  For now I am going with that as well.

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Sat, Jul 8, 2023 5:24 PM

What’s up with the cluster bombs we’re allegedly sending to Ukraine?

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Sat, Jul 8, 2023 7:59 PM
posted by justincredible

What’s up with the cluster bombs we’re allegedly sending to Ukraine?

#ForeverWar

superman Senior Member
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Sat, Jul 8, 2023 8:26 PM
posted by justincredible

What’s up with the cluster bombs we’re allegedly sending to Ukraine?

The Biden administration is above the law and doesn't give a fuck what you think about it

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Sat, Jul 8, 2023 9:00 PM

"Actually, cluster bombs are good when we use them and here's why..."

- Some #VoteBlueNoMatterWho nerd

gut Senior Member
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Sat, Jul 8, 2023 9:49 PM
posted by justincredible

"Actually, cluster bombs are good when we use them and here's why..."

- Some #VoteBlueNoMatterWho nerd

Cages are good, too, when it's Democrats stuffing children in them

majorspark Senior Member
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Sun, Jul 9, 2023 12:19 AM

No weapon of war is good.  At times they are a necessary evil.

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