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Thu, Dec 27, 2018 7:35 PM
I don't have a strong opinion on abortion one way or the other?
What do you think/do/not do that seems to put you on an island by yourself?
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posted by SpockI have zero sympathy for most peoples situations
So Glad you teach children!
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Thu, Dec 27, 2018 8:49 PM
posted by SportsAndLadySo Glad you teach children!
lol
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Thu, Dec 27, 2018 9:16 PM
posted by SpockI have zero sympathy for most peoples situations
Big shocker here! And yes, it makes you pretty terrible.
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Fri, Dec 28, 2018 12:44 AM
I don’t give 2 fucks about your kid (and no, I won’t pester you with mine).
Not so much a bad person, just abnormal for my life and how it played out. But I was adopted at birth (mom was a 15 year old and dad is unknown)...yet I still believe women should be allowed to abort their pregnancy.
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Fri, Dec 28, 2018 8:25 AM
posted by Laley23I don’t give 2 fucks about your kid (and no, I won’t pester you with mine).
Not so much a bad person, just abnormal for my life and how it played out. But I was adopted at birth (mom was a 15 year old and dad is unknown)...yet I still believe women should be allowed to abort their pregnancy.
just curious--have you met, or even have the desire to meet, your birth mother?
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Fri, Dec 28, 2018 2:11 PM
posted by vball10setjust curious--have you met, or even have the desire to meet, your birth mother?
Most common question I get. And no, never have and doubt I ever will. My parents are my parents and I’ve just never felt any different or the need.
I did formally request to have my parents ethnicity relayed to me. Mom is 100% Lithuanian, dad is unknown. Best guess is Macedonian because I look like a lot of my cousins (who also were born in Fort Wayne and are Macedonian) in terms of skin tone and arm/leg hair with a very full beard (but no ankle/foot hair or back hair). And Fort Wayne is where I was born, which has a huge Macedonian population. But that’s completely speculative. Only know I am at least 50% Lithuanian.
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Fri, Dec 28, 2018 2:29 PM
I think funerals are creepy AF and will not go to one.
I don't think being an organ donor should be optional.
All graveyards should be dug up and sold. Complete waste of land and resource.
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Fri, Dec 28, 2018 2:44 PM
posted by Commander of AwesomeI don't think being an organ donor should be optional.
Why does anyone have a right to your body without your consent, even if you're dead? Don't get me wrong, I think all people should be donors, but how can you mandate something like that?
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posted by ernest_t_bassWhy does anyone have a right to your body without your consent, even if you're dead? Don't get me wrong, I think all people should be donors, but how can you mandate something like that?
Because the need of many outweighs your stupidity. (Not necessarily you, but you = the individual).
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Fri, Dec 28, 2018 2:54 PM
posted by Commander of AwesomeI think funerals are creepy AF and will not go to one.
I don't think being an organ donor should be optional.
All graveyards should be dug up and sold. Complete waste of land and resource.
I don't think these make you a bad person, but I completely disagree with 2.5 of them.
-I wouldn't say creepy, but funerals are very uncomfortable and I don't think many people here would say they are a good time.
-I am all for organ donating, but no way would I ever advocate for a law mandating it. You or the state has 0 right to tell me what I should do with my body. Not to mention I would have my family members make that decision for my dead body well before anyone else.
-Same logic as above plus sprinkle in property rights. If I am the property owner, it's none of your business. End of story. I also don't have a problem with people finding a way to mourn their deceased family or friends.
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posted by like_thatI don't think these make you a bad person, but I completely disagree with 2.5 of them.
-I wouldn't say creepy, but funerals are very uncomfortable and I don't think many people here would say they are a good time.
-I am all for organ donating, but no way would I ever advocate for a law mandating it. You or the state has 0 right to tell me what I should do with my body. Not to mention I would have my family members make that decision for my dead body well before anyone else.
-Same logic as above plus sprinkle in property rights. If I am the property owner, it's none of your business. End of story. I also don't have a problem with people finding a way to mourn their deceased family or friends.
Nor do I, but land resources are becoming a larger and larger issue. I think the practice of mourning has to adapt and doesn't necessitate shitty living conditions or wasted resources. Look up data on how often cemeteries are visited by families, most are not. If a family wants to have a grave site to visit, it should be on their land.
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Fri, Dec 28, 2018 3:09 PM
posted by Commander of AwesomeBecause the need of many outweighs your stupidity. (Not necessarily you, but you = the individual).
People don't have rights, persons do, including the right of ultimate selfishness.
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Fri, Dec 28, 2018 3:37 PM
posted by Commander of AwesomeI don't think being an organ donor should be optional.
100% agree
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Fri, Dec 28, 2018 4:39 PM
posted by Commander of AwesomeNor do I, but land resources are becoming a larger and larger issue. I think the practice of mourning has to adapt and doesn't necessitate shitty living conditions or wasted resources. Look up data on how often cemeteries are visited by families, most are not. If a family wants to have a grave site to visit, it should be on their land.
It goes back to private property. If it is private land nobody has a right to tell the owner what to do with it. I could see your argument if we were talking about state or federally owned land.
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posted by like_thatIt goes back to private property. If it is private land nobody has a right to tell the owner what to do with it. I could see your argument if we were talking about state or federally owned land.
How do you feel about churches then? Churches have tons of land that are used for cemeteries that are exempt from property taxes.
To your point about Gov. land cemeteries, it gets tricky IMO. Arlington Cemetery for example is also a national landmark/monument. Does the goverment also own/operate cemeteries outside of this? I honestly do not know.
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posted by Commander of AwesomeHow do you feel about churches then? Churches have tons of land that are used for cemeteries that are exempt from property taxes.
To your point about Gov. land cemeteries, it gets tricky IMO. Arlington Cemetery for example is also a national landmark/monument. Does the goverment also own/operate cemeteries outside of this? I honestly do not know.
I don't know about the federal government, but the cemetery in the town I grew up in was owned and operated by the city. I imagine that's pretty common.
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Fri, Dec 28, 2018 5:14 PM
posted by Commander of AwesomeHow do you feel about churches then? Churches have tons of land that are used for cemeteries that are exempt from property taxes.
To your point about Gov. land cemeteries, it gets tricky IMO. Arlington Cemetery for example is also a national landmark/monument. Does the goverment also own/operate cemeteries outside of this? I honestly do not know.
I am pretty agnostic, but I don't really care if people choose to have faith in their religion if it stays the fuck out of my business. Therefore, I don't really get rattled by churches that own land and considering I hate taxes, I don't mind that they don't pay property taxes. There isn't a wide epidemic of churches taking over our country and our land. I am not sure what you think will happen if cemeteries are banned and that property is seized for other "resources." It surely isn't going to make the housing prices in California drop lol. I am more concerned about how much land our federal government is seizing than churches building cemeteries on their own land. Not to mention the tax exemption is protected by the first amendment in the constitution. Good luck making an amendment to that.
To be clear, I get what you are saying. I just can't get behind property owners being forced to give up or sell their property. I'd meet you in the middle if you were down with a business person or non profit buying these properties from churches to use the property for other purposes.
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posted by like_thatI am pretty agnostic, but I don't really care if people choose to have faith in their religion if it stays the fuck out of my business. Therefore, I don't really get rattled by churches that own land and considering I hate taxes, I don't mind that they don't pay property taxes. There isn't a wide epidemic of churches taking over our country and our land. I am not sure what you think will happen if cemeteries are banned and that property is seized for other "resources." It surely isn't going to make the housing prices in California drop lol. I am more concerned about how much land our federal government is seizing than churches building cemeteries on their own land. Not to mention the tax exemption is protected by the first amendment in the constitution. Good luck making an amendment to that.
I get why that was important in 1776, but damn if it's no longer applicable in today's America. Non profit/religious tax exception is a plague on the US and consistently abused. You're right though, would be very challenging to change today. I think it would be interesting to see how many religious institutions would survive a change in the tax code.
To be clear, I get what you are saying. I just can't get behind property owners being forced to give up or sell their property. I'd meet you in the middle if you were down with a business person or non profit buying these properties from churches to use the property for other purposes.
Or how about lifetime limits on them? IE once the current owner dies, or land changes ownership land renovation has to take place.
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Fri, Dec 28, 2018 5:27 PM
posted by Commander of AwesomeI get why that was important in 1776, but damn if it's no longer applicable in today's America. Non profit/religious tax exception is a plague on the US and consistently abused. You're right though, would be very challenging to change today. I think it would be interesting to see how many religious institutions would survive a change in the tax code.
Agreed. It's a joke churches don't pay taxes.