Trump's Cabinet

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Wed, Nov 13, 2024 9:23 AM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Ok, we got our first head scratcher.

Fox News host Pete Hegseth as Secretary of Defense.

I haven't watched the guy, and looked up his resume, and I am not sold on his qualifications to handle the single largest department in the federal government. 

I had to read it again as I thought it was for VA, not DOD. 

Per my 10 minute Twitter search I like it. Get the woke shit out and get recruitment back up. Elizabeth Warren disliking him is almost enough for anyone to like it. 


CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Wed, Nov 13, 2024 10:21 AM
posted by iclfan2

Per my 10 minute Twitter search I like it. Get the woke shit out and get recruitment back up. Elizabeth Warren disliking him is almost enough for anyone to like it. 


Going to take a while before recruitment can work up again.

77% of enlistment aged men are unfit.

geeblock Member
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kizer permanente Senior Member
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Wed, Nov 13, 2024 10:33 AM
posted by CenterBHSFan

Vivek Ramaswamy and Elon Musk to run DOGE.


Nothing says efficiency like having TWO people do A job 

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Wed, Nov 13, 2024 10:43 AM
posted by kizer permanente

Nothing says efficiency like having TWO people do A job 

I don’t mind this if they’re able to get some traction on it.  


BR1986FB Senior Member
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Wed, Nov 13, 2024 11:07 AM
posted by kizer permanente

Nothing says efficiency like having TWO people do A job 

Perhaps the current regime has turned it into such garbage that it takes two to fix it?

bigorangebuck22 Senior Member
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Wed, Nov 13, 2024 11:44 AM
posted by kizer permanente

Nothing says efficiency like having TWO people do A job 

excellent point.

kizer permanente Senior Member
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Wed, Nov 13, 2024 12:07 PM
posted by BR1986FB

Perhaps the current regime has turned it into such garbage that it takes two to fix it?

or he's just as swampy as everyone else. 

8,788 posts 20 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Nov 13, 2024 12:18 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

How much hesitancy do you think a Republican Congress will apply to cutting wasteful spending?

If the final recommendations come out during the 2026 midterm cycle, 0%.

I also wonder how DOGE will coordinate with the typical budget cycle. 

8,788 posts 20 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Nov 13, 2024 12:21 PM
posted by iclfan2

Per my 10 minute Twitter search I like it. Get the woke shit out and get recruitment back up. Elizabeth Warren disliking him is almost enough for anyone to like it. 

That's a very small part of the job.

The guy is a vet and may be smart, but the DOD is the largest federal agency, $900M, and over a million people. How is this guy going to run that is a big question.

Look at his resume and then look at previous people that have run the DOD. This guy is no Rumsfeld, Gates, or Cheney. 

8,788 posts 20 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Nov 13, 2024 12:22 PM
posted by BR1986FB

Perhaps the current regime has turned it into such garbage that it takes two to fix it?

The Republicans in Congress had a big part of that too.

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Wed, Nov 13, 2024 12:25 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1


The guy is a vet and may be smart, but the DOD is the largest federal agency, $900M, and over a million people. How is this guy going to run that is a big question.


Hopefully, it won't be that hulkingly massive before long.

I can dream, can't ?!

I consider this new guy not being a Rumsfeld or Cheney to be in the Plus category.

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Wed, Nov 13, 2024 12:25 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

The Republicans in Congress had a big part of that too.

Yes, they had a huge part in it and this is correct to point that out imo.

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Wed, Nov 13, 2024 12:27 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

How much hesitancy do you think a Republican Congress will apply to cutting wasteful spending?

Probably not a lot unless it starts to impact defense spending or any particular pet government program.  To do this properly, they must be willing to cut everything - not just education or "woke" stuff, stuff that gets people all excited but doesn't add up to nearly as much as the military.  Defense spending provides a substantial opportunity to reduce our government.  We outspend the rest of the world by so much that we can afford drastic cuts and still be in a position to be a strong global power.  


If defense spending is not included in this, it is primarily for show and no one is serious about really cutting the size of government. 

8,788 posts 20 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Nov 13, 2024 12:27 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

Hopefully, it won't be that hulkingly massive before long.

I can dream, can't ?!

I consider this new guy not being a Rumsfeld or Cheney to be in the Plus category.

I use them as a example as people from Republican administrations, HW Bush and W Bush, that understand the complex bureaucracy and still had difficulty. 


Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Wed, Nov 13, 2024 12:30 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

I use them as a example as people from Republican administrations, HW Bush and W Bush, that understand the complex bureaucracy and still had difficulty. 


Cheney and Rumsfeld sure understood "make war".

8,788 posts 20 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Nov 13, 2024 12:40 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Cheney and Rumsfeld sure understood "make war".

Not when they first started as Secretary of Defense. Both wanted to radically change the department and failed is my point. 

This guy better have a good plan and good under secretaries

 

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Wed, Nov 13, 2024 12:47 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Not when they first started as Secretary of Defense. Both wanted to radically change the department and failed is my point. 

This guy better have a good plan and good under secretaries

 

I give him under two years before other federal agencies find kiddy diddling or some other ruinous accusation on his computer that will "destroy" him. We now know just how far these entities will go. That is one of the net positives of Trump being elected in 2016 - because  that unintendedly exposed just how corrupt our govt is. 

sportchampps Senior Member
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Wed, Nov 13, 2024 12:53 PM
posted by geeblock

What were the credentials of the guy he is replacing?

A four star general.


 Now let’s look historically who has held this position. Obama appointed Ash Carter who was a civilian with no history in the military in fact most people who have held the position have no military background. 


CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Wed, Nov 13, 2024 1:04 PM
posted by sportchampps

A four star general.


 Now let’s look historically who has held this position. Obama appointed Ash Carter who was a civilian with no history in the military in fact most people who have held the position have no military background. 


To be truthful, anybody who is put into that position is susceptible to be heavily leaned on and manipulated by the military industrial complex. Every body should be concerned about this all the time, not just for Trump.

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