Progressives, part 3...

Clearly Trump should immediately release 1/1024th of his taxes. 

posted by geeblock

Were the years longer than 365 days? Lol I will be more inclined to give trump credit when I see wages increase for the working people 

Already happened, and continues.  Sorry you missed it.

posted by gut

Trump on 60 Minutes, and Lesley Stahl says "scientists say hurricanes are worse".  No they don't!  The anecdotal evidence literally does not support that (doesn't refute it, either), and the last IPCC report in 2016(?) said as much.

Trump says "I don't deny warming exists, but it could reverse".  And she say "that's denying it".  No it isn't!  That's the "hoax". 

Global warming hysteria is based off of CO2 being a catalyst.  After 20 years, that doesn't appear to be the case.  CO2 increases have a known quantity of warming, but it's not dominant.  And no one really talks about it, but CO2 levels before man started burning fossil fuels were getting dangerously low.  If CO2 is not a catalyst - and it doesn't appear to be (which makes perfect sense, given it's been more than 3X higher and the earth was not a self-cooking oven) - then the global warming hysteria IS a hoax.

Not even worth discussing anymore.  Everything the left said was going to happen to climate going back over 30 years has not at all materialized, nor are any of the minor fluctuations at all related to humans.  Another big L for the left.

posted by majorspark

I can assure everyone I am 100% native American.  Don't even need a DNA test to prove it.  My birth certificate says I was born in a small rural town in Ohio.  I can provide many witnesses that will attest to me having lived here my entire 45 yrs of life. 

I never met my great great great great great great... grandparents so I can not vouch for their character or how they treated other people.

I prefer to be judged as an individual in the present tense by the content of my character.  Thanks.

 

Privileged mofo…

:)

Alec Baldwin speech to dems calling for the outright overthrow of Trump.  Not that Baldwin isn’t a complete ass, but when is crossing the line, crossing the line?  Publicly calling for a duly elected president to be overthrown – WTF.

posted by QuakerOats

 

Alec Baldwin speech to dems calling for the outright overthrow of Trump.  Not that Baldwin isn’t a complete ass, but when is crossing the line, crossing the line?  Publicly calling for a duly elected president to be overthrown – WTF.

 

Context bro.

The full quote: ‘The way we implement change in America is through elections. We change governments here at home in an orderly and formal way. In that orderly and formal way and lawful way, we need to overthrow the government of the United States under Donald Trump.’

Bad word choice, but he wasn't calling for coup man. 

The Elizabeth Warren thing is funny. Both sides are claiming "victory" and using it to make their own points. I think it's a bad move and plays right into Trump's hand, but whatever. He loves this and knows now the name calling worked against her. 

Warren is running in 2020 and if she gets the nomination (I doubt she will), but she will have nearly as much baggage as Clinton did against Trump. Outside of hardcore liberals, people just don't like Warren. 

posted by ptown_trojans_1

The Elizabeth Warren thing is funny. Both sides are claiming "victory" and using it to make their own points. I think it's a bad move and plays right into Trump's hand, but whatever. 

Warren is running in 2020 and if she gets the nomination (I doubt she will), but she will have nearly as much baggage as Clinton did against Trump. Outside of hardcore liberals, people just don't like Warren. 

It's funny that she claimed to be a minority. Even if she's 2% Indian, you're not a minority. Actual minorities should be pissed at the "white privilege" going on here. I haven't seen many people defending her (other than the media). I saw a lot of people annoyed she did it before the mid terms.

It isn't hard to see why people don't like her, aside from the NA thing. The nomination should be Biden if they want a chance. Do you think it is going to be way too many people like the republicans in 2016, and they will just destroy each other?

posted by iclfan2

It's funny that she claimed to be a minority. Even if she's 2% Indian, you're not a minority. Actual minorities should be pissed at the "white privilege" going on here. I haven't seen many people defending her (other than the media). I saw a lot of people annoyed she did it before the mid terms.

It isn't hard to see why people don't like her, aside from the NA thing. The nomination should be Biden if they want a chance. Do you think it is going to be way too many people like the republicans in 2016, and they will just destroy each other?

Yeah, why do it now? Why not wait a month? Kinda throws the liberal message about the issues out the window. 

2020? I don't know. It all depends on how the midterms go.

I do have a feeling the start of the D process will be a shitshow. How much of one depends on the midterm results. 

posted by ptown_trojans_1

 

Context bro.

The full quote: ‘The way we implement change in America is through elections. We change governments here at home in an orderly and formal way. In that orderly and formal way and lawful way, we need to overthrow the government of the United States under Donald Trump.’

Had anyone said that about obama they would have been summarily dealt with by the full force of federal officials, you can bet your ass.

Bad word choice, but he wasn't calling for coup man. 

posted by QuakerOats

 

 

Had anyone said that about obama they would have been summarily dealt with by the full force of federal officials, you can bet your ass.

Bad word choice, but he wasn't calling for coup man. 

 

Oh yeah man. Obama would have went all ATF and FBI Branch Davidians style on them...

He would have lit their ass upppppp..

You’re right; he has no track record of weaponizing federal agencies against The People.

posted by iclfan2

The funniest part is she looks at this as a win for her and tweeted it as such

I can't even understand how she would.

Is it just me, or does this feel like she's just trying to co-opt the popular sympathy associated with being a minority without having to deal with the struggles of it?

Talk about white privilege.  The ability to do THAT is as much privilege as anything.
 

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Context bro.

The full quote: ‘The way we implement change in America is through elections. We change governments here at home in an orderly and formal way. In that orderly and formal way and lawful way, we need to overthrow the government of the United States under Donald Trump.’

Bad word choice, but he wasn't calling for coup man. 

I'm not even sure it's the worst word choice.  Within the context, it's fine.  A little hyperbolic, but within the context, the intent was clearly benign from a legal or forceful standpoint.

Certainly no worse than claiming one could shoot someone in the middle of the street and get off.
 

posted by ptown_trojans_1

The Elizabeth Warren thing is funny. Both sides are claiming "victory" and using it to make their own points. I think it's a bad move and plays right into Trump's hand, but whatever. He loves this and knows now the name calling worked against her. 

Warren is running in 2020 and if she gets the nomination (I doubt she will), but she will have nearly as much baggage as Clinton did against Trump. Outside of hardcore liberals, people just don't like Warren. 

I just can't understand how she views (or positions) this as a win for her.

Having said that, for the other side to view this as a noteworthy victory, that would lead me to believe they had way too much emotion invested into it, as well.  The bottom line is that a politician popped off about being Native American to a mentionable degree.  Even if she was right, this doesn't really seem like a significant story, and it feels really childish to have anything invested in her being shown to be wrong.
 

posted by QuakerOats

Had anyone said that about obama they would have been summarily dealt with by the full force of federal officials, you can bet your ass.

I sincerely doubt it.  David Perdue is still in office, despite making the joke about praying Obama's days are few.

posted by ptown_trojans_1

The Elizabeth Warren thing is funny. Both sides are claiming "victory" and using it to make their own points. I think it's a bad move and plays right into Trump's hand, but whatever. He loves this and knows now the name calling worked against her. 

Warren is running in 2020 and if she gets the nomination (I doubt she will), but she will have nearly as much baggage as Clinton did against Trump. Outside of hardcore liberals, people just don't like Warren. 

Bizarre she's so popular with the far left being a former Republican.

posted by iclfan2

The funniest part is she looks at this as a win for her and tweeted it as such

It shows her mom was probably a little froot loops, and the apple didn't fall far from the tree.

She's getting really close to just admitting "I identify as Native American".

posted by QuakerOats

 

Alec Baldwin speech to dems calling for the outright overthrow of Trump.  Not that Baldwin isn’t a complete ass, but when is crossing the line, crossing the line?  Publicly calling for a duly elected president to be overthrown – WTF.

 

I disagree with a lot of what you post but we can settle our differences here and agree that Baldwin is a douche.

posted by gut

It shows her mom was probably a little froot loops, and the apple didn't fall far from the tree.

She's getting really close to just admitting "I identify as Native American".

What frightens me is that there are throngs of people who are critical of Trump for his personal traits and embarrassing gaffes who would also proudly vote for her.

I'm guessing her Cherokee name has to be Little Bat Shit.

posted by O-Trap

I'm guessing her Cherokee name has to be Little Bat Shit.

Ok, I laughed!

Her and Biden on a ticket in any debate will be must see TV

posted by O-Trap

I'm guessing her Cherokee name has to be Little Bat Shit.

You should tweet that to Trump - he'd probably use it!