posted by gutAnd what about AOC running around calling member of Congress "white supremacists" who "are endangering my life" without any proof?
I am happy to work with Republicans on this issue where there’s common ground, but you almost had me murdered 3 weeks ago so you can sit this one out.
— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) January 28, 2021
Happy to work w/ almost any other GOP that aren’t trying to get me killed.
In the meantime if you want to help, you can resign. https://t.co/4mVREbaqqm
I had that argument with an ex-coworker on FB last week.
He is far left wing and definitely had TDS “orange man bad” syndrome the last four years.
I said the only way to have a non-hypocritical opinion about Trump “inciting violence” is if you believe he did and should be impeached then you should be calling for the impeachment of Pelosi, Waters, and ACO, etc to name a few.
If you don’t believe those democrats should be impeached then neither should Trump.
Either they all incited violence or none of them did. If your opinion is split that one side did and the other didn’t then your opinion is hypocritical.
He kept arguing that he was not being hypocritical, that Trump was worse, blah blah blah even after I posted videos of what those 3 women has actually said recently vs the 5-10 min window of Trump’s speech that the left is saying where he incited violence.
Even with the evidence right in his face he wouldn’t listen.
He is like the left version of QO.
posted by justincredible
No idea who that is, but that is a new term I have never seen before "a white woman of color"
posted by jmogI had that argument with an ex-coworker on FB last week.
He is far left wing and definitely had TDS “orange man bad” syndrome the last four years.
I said the only way to have a non-hypocritical opinion about Trump “inciting violence” is if you believe he did and should be impeached then you should be calling for the impeachment of Pelosi, Waters, and ACO, etc to name a few.
If you don’t believe those democrats should be impeached then neither should Trump.
Either they all incited violence or none of them did. If your opinion is split that one side did and the other didn’t then your opinion is hypocritical.
He kept arguing that he was not being hypocritical, that Trump was worse, blah blah blah even after I posted videos of what those 3 women has actually said recently vs the 5-10 min window of Trump’s speech that the left is saying where he incited violence.
Even with the evidence right in his face he wouldn’t listen.
He is like the left version of QO.
Interesting black and white logic for sure.
Question, does your logic also apply to say Rep. Green or those that also supported the Stop the Steal movement?
posted by ptown_trojans_1Interesting black and white logic for sure.
Question, does your logic also apply to say Rep. Green or those that also supported the Stop the Steal movement?
I don’t know how one can actually watch/listen to what Trump, Waters, Pelosi, etc all said and not see how they either all incited violence or none of them did.
No unbiased person could possibly believe other wise. I could see how someone would call it all inciting. I personally don’t think any of them did however. It just makes zero sense to watch what they all actually said and only be mad at one side or only say one side incited violence.
I am not informed on Rep. Green and Stop the Steal. You will have to provide a link for me to form an opinion.
posted by jmogI don’t know how one can actually watch/listen to what Trump, Waters, Pelosi, etc all said and not see how they either all incited violence or none of them did.
No unbiased person could possibly believe other wise. I could see how someone would call it all inciting. I personally don’t think any of them did however. It just makes zero sense to watch what they all actually said and only be mad at one side or only say one side incited violence.
I am not informed on Rep. Green and Stop the Steal. You will have to provide a link for me to form an opinion.
Interesting as the fact you are not informed about Rep. Green or the Stop the Steal Movement shows your own blindspot on things.
Not agreeing or disagreeing with what you said, just that is may not be a complete picture.
Just a quick google search will serve you well.
posted by ptown_trojans_1Interesting as the fact you are not informed about Rep. Green or the Stop the Steal Movement shows your own blindspot on things.
Not agreeing or disagreeing with what you said, just that is may not be a complete picture.
Just a quick google search will serve you well.
So because I am not aware of every representatives actions in congress it shows my bias?
Come on, be better than that.
posted by ptown_trojans_1Interesting as the fact you are not informed about Rep. Green or the Stop the Steal Movement shows your own blindspot on things.
Not agreeing or disagreeing with what you said, just that is may not be a complete picture.
Just a quick google search will serve you well.
Ok, I did your quick google search, and you may want to stop being so uppity while misspelling the Rep's name. Its apparently Greene.
I read the "stop the steal" stuff calling Biden an "illegitimate usurper", telling people to be "ready to defend the Constitution".
I am curious, now reading all this, do you, ptown, truly believe that rhetoric was any worse than the shit we heard from democrats about Trump for 3.5-4 years?
I seriously can't believe you would be so blinded to not see that the democrats spent 3.5 years calling Trump "illegitimate". So once again, while Greene and Gosar are wrong/stupid, they were acting no different than the idiot dems did forever.
So, either they all incited violence or none of them did. I stand by my claim.
posted by jmogOk, I did your quick google search, and you may want to stop being so uppity while misspelling the Rep's name. Its apparently Greene.
I read the "stop the steal" stuff calling Biden an "illegitimate usurper", telling people to be "ready to defend the Constitution".
I am curious, now reading all this, do you, ptown, truly believe that rhetoric was any worse than the shit we heard from democrats about Trump for 3.5-4 years?
I seriously can't believe you would be so blinded to not see that the democrats spent 3.5 years calling Trump "illegitimate". So once again, while Greene and Gosar are wrong/stupid, they were acting no different than the idiot dems did forever.
So, either they all incited violence or none of them did. I stand by my claim.
Again, I find your all of nothing claim very black and white. Fine for you I guess. My thoughts are a little different because I think there can be levels of statements and areas of grey.
You can say I am blind, I did not refer to anything the Ds have said, but you are the one that did not even know about the movements and the crazy things the right have been saying. I think you did not know who the Oathkeepers were. Anyone that has been paying attention to right wing violence circles would know who they are.
If they are all bad, then by your own logic, you must include those statements by the right over the last few years. Again, your logic, not mine.
posted by ptown_trojans_1Again, I find your all of nothing claim very black and white. Fine for you I guess. My thoughts are a little different because I think there can be levels of statements and areas of grey.
You can say I am blind, I did not refer to anything the Ds have said, but you are the one that did not even know about the movements and the crazy things the right have been saying. I think you did not know who the Oathkeepers were. Anyone that has been paying attention to right wing violence circles would know who they are.
If they are all bad, then by your own logic, you must include those statements by the right over the last few years. Again, your logic, not mine.
I did include them, maybe you missed the part where I was talking about Trump’s speech?
posted by jmogI did include them, maybe you missed the part where I was talking about Trump’s speech?
It is more than Trump's speech. But, again, you are blind to the right side of the equation.
posted by ptown_trojans_1It is more than Trump's speech. But, again, you are blind to the right side of the equation.
Coming from you that's hilarious.
posted by jmogComing from you that's hilarious.
I could say the same about you.
You obviously have been blind the last 5 years about the rise of right wing extremism and language,
posted by justincredible
LOL.
So, this thread has turned into the blind arguing with the blind. I mean, it's not like it's nothing new, but at least it's starting to come out a bit more clearly. Now, if only someone would do a bit of self-honestly and say, "You're blind this way, like I'm blind this way, so maybe we both should try to be more well-rounded." instead of just pointing out the other person's blindness, we might actually get somewhere!
posted by jmogI had that argument with an ex-coworker on FB last week.
He is far left wing and definitely had TDS “orange man bad” syndrome the last four years.
I said the only way to have a non-hypocritical opinion about Trump “inciting violence” is if you believe he did and should be impeached then you should be calling for the impeachment of Pelosi, Waters, and ACO, etc to name a few.
If you don’t believe those democrats should be impeached then neither should Trump.
Either they all incited violence or none of them did. If your opinion is split that one side did and the other didn’t then your opinion is hypocritical.
He kept arguing that he was not being hypocritical, that Trump was worse, blah blah blah even after I posted videos of what those 3 women has actually said recently vs the 5-10 min window of Trump’s speech that the left is saying where he incited violence.
Even with the evidence right in his face he wouldn’t listen.
He is like the left version of QO.
......and you were doing so well .....
Why does anyone expect more it of P-town anymore? He is literally just leftist QO.
posted by justincredible
Woooooaaaaahhhhhh - is this a new feature?
You realize what this means? OC is so small time it's about the only site on the internetz that Youtube doesn't block embedding its videos!
