Impressed by the Trump administration part II

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Fri, May 11, 2018 4:20 PM

Jobs aplenty 

Another good week for equity investors

More take-home pay for happy hours this evening

 

 

Have a great weekend! 

 

HOF on coattails Junior Member
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Mon, May 14, 2018 11:03 AM
posted by QuakerOats

Jobs aplenty 

Another good week for equity investors

More take-home pay for happy hours this evening

 

 

Have a great weekend! 

 

Trump is even making China great again!  

 

Con_Alma Senior Member
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Mon, May 14, 2018 4:44 PM
posted by HOF on coattails

Trump is even making China great again!  

 

... and in return China will do away with the tariffs imposed on US agricultural products. Sound like a pretty good deal.

HOF on coattails Junior Member
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Mon, May 14, 2018 5:53 PM
posted by Con_Alma

... and in return China will do away with the tariffs imposed on US agricultural products. Sound like a pretty good deal.

And apparently the tariffs were enough to throw any cyber security concerns about ZTE right out the window, too.  

 

From David Gomez, a former FBI counterterrorism agent and cybersecurity strategist: "Wow. I rarely comment on POTUS tweets but this one deserves a response. Telecommunications companies like ZTE use their devices and networks to compile intelligence on behalf of the Chinese govt. That is just a fact."

Nada Bakos, former CIA analyst and fellow at the Foreign Policy Research Institute, said Trump seemed to want to "trade on" national security: "You cannot trade on national security. Promoting jobs in China for a telecom company that is known to be beholden to the Chinese govt, puts US citizens and sensitive info at risk. There is no reward for the USG, national security can't be used as leverage."

And Josh Campbell, former FBI special agent, didn't mince words: "We don't need to just pump the brakes, we need to throw the car in reverse and immediately retreat from this ludicrous idea that we are going to enable a counterintelligence threat like ZTE. We should not be making life easier for hostile intelligence services."

SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Mon, May 14, 2018 6:21 PM
posted by HOF on coattails

And apparently the tariffs were enough to throw any cyber security concerns about ZTE right out the window, too.  

 

From David Gomez, a former FBI counterterrorism agent and cybersecurity strategist: "Wow. I rarely comment on POTUS tweets but this one deserves a response. Telecommunications companies like ZTE use their devices and networks to compile intelligence on behalf of the Chinese govt. That is just a fact."

Nada Bakos, former CIA analyst and fellow at the Foreign Policy Research Institute, said Trump seemed to want to "trade on" national security: "You cannot trade on national security. Promoting jobs in China for a telecom company that is known to be beholden to the Chinese govt, puts US citizens and sensitive info at risk. There is no reward for the USG, national security can't be used as leverage."

And Josh Campbell, former FBI special agent, didn't mince words: "We don't need to just pump the brakes, we need to throw the car in reverse and immediately retreat from this ludicrous idea that we are going to enable a counterintelligence threat like ZTE. We should not be making life easier for hostile intelligence services."

I’m so nervous this Chinese company and the Chinese government are spying on me!!

HOF on coattails Junior Member
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Mon, May 14, 2018 8:24 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

I’m so nervous this Chinese company and the Chinese government are spying on me!!

What ZTE phone do you use?

SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Mon, May 14, 2018 8:42 PM
posted by HOF on coattails

What ZTE phone do you use?

I’ve been put at risk. I’m a US citizen. At least according to your dumbass quotes. 

HOF on coattails Junior Member
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Mon, May 14, 2018 11:17 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

I’ve been put at risk. I’m a US citizen. At least according to your dumbass quotes. 

It's possible you have but unfortunately you're unable to grasp the broader view.  Suppose that's why you're a good bar maid.     

SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Tue, May 15, 2018 12:02 AM
posted by HOF on coattails

It's possible you have but unfortunately you're unable to grasp the broader view.  Suppose that's why you're a good bar maid.     

Curious why you think I work at a bar? Not that there’s anything wrong with that. 

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Tue, May 15, 2018 9:13 AM
posted by HOF on coattails

And apparently the tariffs were enough to throw any cyber security concerns about ZTE right out the window, too.  

 

From David Gomez, a former FBI counterterrorism agent and cybersecurity strategist: "Wow. I rarely comment on POTUS tweets but this one deserves a response. Telecommunications companies like ZTE use their devices and networks to compile intelligence on behalf of the Chinese govt. That is just a fact."

Nada Bakos, former CIA analyst and fellow at the Foreign Policy Research Institute, said Trump seemed to want to "trade on" national security: "You cannot trade on national security. Promoting jobs in China for a telecom company that is known to be beholden to the Chinese govt, puts US citizens and sensitive info at risk. There is no reward for the USG, national security can't be used as leverage."

And Josh Campbell, former FBI special agent, didn't mince words: "We don't need to just pump the brakes, we need to throw the car in reverse and immediately retreat from this ludicrous idea that we are going to enable a counterintelligence threat like ZTE. We should not be making life easier for hostile intelligence services."

Where were you and all those quoted above over the last 8 years? 

HOF on coattails Junior Member
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Tue, May 15, 2018 11:52 AM
posted by SportsAndLady

Curious why you think I work at a bar? Not that there’s anything wrong with that. 

My bad, thought ya said you did.  Just my belief, anyone who's willing to work at bars and deal with drunk people can't be too opinionated.  

IMO- a cell phone company partially owned by it's government could be a security threat.   

 

Of course, I think the government can manipulate the weather, so what the eff' do I know.....?  

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Tue, May 15, 2018 1:40 PM
posted by HOF on coattails

My bad, thought ya said you did.  Just my belief, anyone who's willing to work at bars and deal with drunk people can't be too opinionated.  

IMO- a cell phone company partially owned by it's government could be a security threat.   

 

Of course, I think the government can manipulate the weather, so what the eff' do I know.....?  

When GM was partially owned by the US government, did you fill your pants, freak out and think that it programmed some cars to spy on US citizens?

Of course, you think government can manipulate the weather, so what the eff' do you know? lol

FatHobbit Senior Member
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Tue, May 15, 2018 4:04 PM
posted by HOF on coattails

My bad, thought ya said you did.  Just my belief, anyone who's willing to work at bars and deal with drunk people can't be too opinionated.  

IMO- a cell phone company partially owned by it's government could be a security threat.   

 

Of course, I think the government can manipulate the weather, so what the eff' do I know.....?  

How do you feel about a government with a massive data center that records all phone conversations and internet traffic. You know, just in case...

HOF on coattails Junior Member
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Tue, May 15, 2018 10:24 PM
posted by FatHobbit

How do you feel about a government with a massive data center that records all phone conversations and internet traffic. You know, just in case...

I choose to live here and have no problem with it.  China spying, on the other hand...

 

 

Imagine that.....I'm sure it was only about the tariffs, right Con?

  

"Trump Orders Help For Chinese Phone-Maker After China Approves Money For Trump Project

Trump will profit from Indonesian resort project that will get $500 million in Chinese loans in a deal sealed days before before his tweet ordering help for ZTE."

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-china-zte_us_5af9f701e4b0200bcab7fa66

HOF on coattails Junior Member
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Wed, May 16, 2018 3:43 AM
posted by CenterBHSFan

When GM was partially owned by the US government, did you fill your pants, freak out and think that it programmed some cars to spy on US citizens?

 

No, because that's stupid.  

Con_Alma Senior Member
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Wed, May 16, 2018 6:13 AM
posted by HOF on coattails

I choose to live here and have no problem with it.  China spying, on the other hand...

 

 

Imagine that.....I'm sure it was only about the tariffs, right Con?

  

"Trump Orders Help For Chinese Phone-Maker After China Approves Money For Trump Project

Trump will profit from Indonesian resort project that will get $500 million in Chinese loans in a deal sealed days before before his tweet ordering help for ZTE."

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-china-zte_us_5af9f701e4b0200bcab7fa66

"Only" about the tariffs????  Why do you say "only"? I personally don't think it's "only" about tariffs.

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Wed, May 16, 2018 7:31 AM

ITT said pretending he is intellectually superior to everyone, but also admits he believes the Government controls the weather.  Not to mention he didn't know the Government has been spying on him for countless years, but he is ok with that, because he is a puppet that can't think on his own.

 

Also, LOL at the bolded part.  I guess my post could have ended there.

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Wed, May 16, 2018 7:45 AM
posted by HOF on coattails

No, because that's stupid.  

Yes.

But to continue along the lines you're drawing: Yes, China spies on us. We spy on them, hell, we spy on everybody. We spy on Merkel when she goes to get her hair done ffs. Everybody spies on us, too. Spies in every government since awareness of the fact that political factions have different ideologies. But what I think is going on with this particular issue is just TDS. Which is fine, IMO, because I don't like him either. But cell phone deals don't add into my dislike or fit into that slot.

HOF on coattails Junior Member
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Wed, May 16, 2018 11:16 AM
posted by CenterBHSFan

Yes.

But to continue along the lines you're drawing: Yes, China spies on us. We spy on them, hell, we spy on everybody. We spy on Merkel when she goes to get her hair done ffs. Everybody spies on us, too. 

Not everyone provides cell phones.

 

 

Hope this helps.

HOF on coattails Junior Member
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Wed, May 16, 2018 11:18 AM
posted by like_that

ITT said pretending he is intellectually superior to everyone, but also admits he believes the Government controls the weather.  Not to mention he didn't know the Government has been spying on him for countless years, but he is ok with that, because he is a puppet that can't think on his own.

 

Also, LOL at the bolded part.  I guess my post could have ended there.

lol you take it as someone pretending to be intellectually superior.  Get over yourself, Vinny.

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