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Anyone else getting a kick out of white liberals telling black people to not listen to Kanye?

posted by like_that

Anyone else getting a kick out of white liberals telling black people to not listen to Kanye?

Very much so.  Kanye is not going to be shamed and intimidated into keeping his mouth.  Not the guy to play your identity politics game with.

But is Kanye a conservative?  Does this mean he's going to challenge Trump in 2020 in the primaries?!?   lol

posted by gut

Very much so.  Kanye is not going to be shamed and intimidated into keeping his mouth.  Not the guy to play your identity politics game with.

But is Kanye a conservative?  Does this mean he's going to challenge Trump in 2020 in the primaries?!?   lol

Kanye please run in 2020.  Trump will have a field day

Kanye West leans more to the conservative side. Loves Trump.

While it's fun to watch the left melting down over Kanye's tweets, we should probably keep in mind that at the end of the day, he's still pretty much a crazy person.

Kanye is definitely crazy. The funny part of his is that his whole tweet said "I like the way Candace Owens thinks."

He was referencing her statement that the black community needs to stop thinking like victims and start thinking like victors.

Her example was the Asian community that during WW2 was put into internment camps in the US similar to the Jews in Germany just without the executions. 

The Asian community around that time was subject to severe racism only trumped by 19th century slavery. She said you will not hear Asian American's today talk about the internment camps and use it to discuss how bad their race was treated. They instead took control of their futures and are now the richest race in America (for reference white/caucasian is 3rd behind Asian Americans and Indian Americans...the country India).

That was what he "liked" that her thought process was looking toward the future rather than using past atrocities as a crutch (and make no mistake, slavery and Jim Crow laws were atrocities), he may not even agree with her conservative political stances (who knows). 

But, since Kanye said a nice thing about a conservative black woman, he is ostracized. 

To be honest, I had never heard of this woman until this whole Kanye thing, I watched a few of her speeches and I kind of like her. She was a die hard liberal who said she finally starting thinking for herself at one point. She has been labeled a white supremacist...that's right, a black woman that has been labeled a white supremacist by the left because she doesn't fit the liberal group think mold......let that sink in..

posted by jmog

To be honest, I had never heard of this woman until this whole Kanye thing, I watched a few of her speeches and I kind of like her. She was a die hard liberal who said she finally starting thinking for herself at one point. She has been labeled a white supremacist...that's right, a black woman that has been labeled a white supremacist by the left because she doesn't fit the liberal group think mold......let that sink in..

I came across her on twitter a couple of months ago. As you mentioned, her big things is the victimhood of black people, and specifically hates the BLM movement and the non-fact based claims that cops just go around killing them. Works for me.

The republicans are going to march her around for the next few years

posted by fish82

While it's fun to watch the left melting down over Kanye's tweets, we should probably keep in mind that at the end of the day, he's still pretty much a crazy person.

Yeah.  He's still a musical genius, and he's still batshit crazy.
 

posted by jmog

To be honest, I had never heard of this woman until this whole Kanye thing, I watched a few of her speeches and I kind of like her. She was a die hard liberal who said she finally starting thinking for herself at one point. She has been labeled a white supremacist...that's right, a black woman that has been labeled a white supremacist by the left because she doesn't fit the liberal group think mold......let that sink in..

I mean, it's not outlandish to consider a minority person aligning themselves with the majority group on racial issues.  It's just that we usually hear/use the term "Uncle Tom" to describe that in circumstances like these.

In any case, I've noticed more and more of my neighbors and community espousing certain platforms that do not align themselves with the contemporary black Democratic voter stereotype.  In particular, a lot of the black men and women are taking a more favorable view toward openly arming themselves (and being responsible gun owners), a general distrust of government, and even a more positive status symbol associated with getting off government assistance programs.  It's not widespread, but it's more so than it was 10 years ago, when I moved in.

I'm wondering if this is a shift nationwide, which I obviously can't know, but it's something I've noticed from time to time.
 

posted by Spock

The republicans are going to march her around for the next few years

Unfortunately, yes.  They will.  They'll walk her right into the narrative of being an 'Uncle Tom'.

posted by O-Trap

Yeah.  He's still a musical genius, and he's still batshit crazy.
 

posted by jmog

To be honest, I had never heard of this woman until this whole Kanye thing, I watched a few of her speeches and I kind of like her. She was a die hard liberal who said she finally starting thinking for herself at one point. She has been labeled a white supremacist...that's right, a black woman that has been labeled a white supremacist by the left because she doesn't fit the liberal group think mold......let that sink in..

 

I mean, it's not outlandish to consider a minority person aligning themselves with the majority group on racial issues.  It's just that we usually hear/use the term "Uncle Tom" to describe that in circumstances like these.

In any case, I've noticed more and more of my neighbors and community espousing certain platforms that do not align themselves with the contemporary black Democratic voter stereotype.  In particular, a lot of the black men and women are taking a more favorable view toward openly arming themselves (and being responsible gun owners), a general distrust of government, and even a more positive status symbol associated with getting off government assistance programs.  It's not widespread, but it's more so than it was 10 years ago, when I moved in.

I'm wondering if this is a shift nationwide, which I obviously can't know, but it's something I've noticed from time to time.
 

posted by Spock

The republicans are going to march her around for the next few years

Unfortunately, yes.  They will.  They'll walk her right into the narrative of being an 'Uncle Tom'.

 

Just like Dr. Ben Carson...

posted by jmog

Just like Dr. Ben Carson...

also, Colion Noir, an NRA spokesman who is black also gets called an Uncle Tom.  Heaven forbid people don't act like they're owed something at all times.

posted by O-Trap

...and even a more positive status symbol associated with getting off government assistance programs.  It's not widespread, but it's more so than it was 10 years ago, when I moved in.

plenty of rural methheads to pick-up the slack

posted by jmog

Just like Dr. Ben Carson...

Yep.  I'm not even a big Carson fan, but the RNC did him no favors.
 

posted by gut

plenty of rural methheads to pick-up the slack

I've heard this.  My hometown sounds like it's changed in this direction, too.  Not just methheads, necessarily, but left-leaners.  When I was there, it was blood red.

Here's a clip of Candace Owens that's just over a minute long, but pretty much gives you here style and ideology:

posted by O-Trap

Yeah.  He's still a musical genius, and he's still batshit crazy.
 

posted by jmog

To be honest, I had never heard of this woman until this whole Kanye thing, I watched a few of her speeches and I kind of like her. She was a die hard liberal who said she finally starting thinking for herself at one point. She has been labeled a white supremacist...that's right, a black woman that has been labeled a white supremacist by the left because she doesn't fit the liberal group think mold......let that sink in..

 

I mean, it's not outlandish to consider a minority person aligning themselves with the majority group on racial issues.  It's just that we usually hear/use the term "Uncle Tom" to describe that in circumstances like these.

In any case, I've noticed more and more of my neighbors and community espousing certain platforms that do not align themselves with the contemporary black Democratic voter stereotype.  In particular, a lot of the black men and women are taking a more favorable view toward openly arming themselves (and being responsible gun owners), a general distrust of government, and even a more positive status symbol associated with getting off government assistance programs.  It's not widespread, but it's more so than it was 10 years ago, when I moved in.

I'm wondering if this is a shift nationwide, which I obviously can't know, but it's something I've noticed from time to time.
 

posted by Spock

The republicans are going to march her around for the next few years

Unfortunately, yes.  They will.  They'll walk her right into the narrative of being an 'Uncle Tom'.

 

Yea the racist narative that blacks use to keep racism alive.  Never heard a white person use that term to describe a well educated and law abiding minority

posted by O-Trap

Yep.  I'm not even a big Carson fan, but the RNC did him no favors.
 

They did him no favors, but the fault is still the liberal left that called him racial epithets like Uncle Tom.

posted by CenterBHSFan

Here's a clip of Candace Owens that's just over a minute long, but pretty much gives you here style and ideology:

 

I watched that whole hour and a half long session. She gives her whole background and transition from being a liberal democrat to being a conservative. 

They then also do Q&A with mostly people who don't agree with them, they actually said numerous times for people that don't agree to jump to the front of the Question line.

posted by O-Trap

Yep.  I'm not even a big Carson fan, but the RNC did him no favors.
 

 

I love Ben Carson as a person, humble, compassionate man that loves him mom, his wife, his whole family, loves God, and loves people. He is a self made man that dug himself out of poverty (obviously with his mom's help).

I don't think he was/is a very good politician and I disagreed with a lot of his policies.

However, to be 100% honest, I probably would have voted for him solely based on the fact that he was the best overall human being from both parties. I didn't agree with a lot of his policies, but maybe he would have got some 'smarter' politicians in there to help mold his political thinking.

I do know we wouldn't have had this crap storm we have now if he was in there, no talk of Stormy Daniels/Russia, or Email/Clinton Foundation/Uranium One if he was in office.

posted by jmog

I do know we wouldn't have had this crap storm we have now if he was in there, no talk of Stormy Daniels/Russia, or Email/Clinton Foundation/Uranium One if he was in office.

I sincerely hope the first woman POTUS is a Republican, because it will expose liberals once and for all for what they are - shaming, bullying, brainwashing or whatever term you want to use for basically disenfranchising potential voters by taking away choice because of bullshit identity politics.