LOCKED: Disgusted with progressives, part 2...

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Fri, Aug 17, 2018 1:31 PM
posted by justincredible

https://www.thewrap.com/queer-eye-star-jonathan-van-ness-attacked-online-after-saying-not-all-republicans-are-racist/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

I wish more lefty celebrities had the balls to stand up for what they believe in. He knew he was going to get trouble because of it, but he is holding to the courage of his convictions. 

Now if we could just talk to him about that stache...

O-Trap Chief Shenanigans Officer
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Fri, Aug 17, 2018 3:00 PM
posted by justincredible

https://www.thewrap.com/queer-eye-star-jonathan-van-ness-attacked-online-after-saying-not-all-republicans-are-racist/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Yikes.  The responses actually illustrated his point.  He expresses a view that has differed from theirs, and they're practically ready to eat their own.  Pressure to place falling in line above personal conviction and independent thought.

Moreover, they sort of echoed GWB's false dichotomy when he tried to force people to either support his war effort or be labeled as in support with terrorists.

gut Senior Member
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Fri, Aug 17, 2018 7:57 PM

So how about this Manafort trial?  It sounded to me like a slam-dunk, but jurors still have not reached a verdict after 2 days, and their questions indicate they may be leaning toward acquittal (although there are like 18 charges, so he could already be cooked while they struggle with the 17 other charges).

But now this was curious:  Judge denied a motion to release the names of the jurors to the public.  That request was from 7 liberal news organizations, which would appear to be a veiled threat that "if you don't convict, we're publishing your names and making your life miserable".

No matter how entertaining it would be to watch the liberal meltdown, Manafort needs to do some serious time.  I just don't understand how the case was supposedly(?) closed without the Russia investigation.

 

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Fri, Aug 17, 2018 9:02 PM
posted by O-Trap

Yikes.  The responses actually illustrated his point.  He expresses a view that has differed from theirs, and they're practically ready to eat their own.  Pressure to place falling in line above personal conviction and independent thought.

Very much like religious zealotry.

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Fri, Aug 17, 2018 9:18 PM
posted by gut

But now this was curious:  Judge denied a motion to release the names of the jurors to the public.  That request was from 7 liberal news organizations, which would appear to be a veiled threat that "if you don't convict, we're publishing your names and making your life miserable"

Yea, fucking CNN wanted names and addresses of the jurors. That’s insane, and would only be used to intimidate or insult. A joke.  

gut Senior Member
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Fri, Aug 17, 2018 9:24 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

Very much like religious zealotry.

It's why I laugh every time I see someone call Trump a fascist.  I wonder if the anti-religion stance they've adopted isn't, in part, because religion would at times compete for and often oppose the agenda.

The left is very definitely moving toward fascism, to the point they even tacitly approve of physical violence to shutdown views they disagree with.  The identity politics hammer is the "softer" method thru which they quash debate.

I should say that's the "New" Democrats.  It's telling that the Democratic "establishment" is trying to marginalize and distance themselves from the movement, with a slight hint of panic.  But, DUHHHH!!!!!, when your platform makes radical appeals to emotion....then you end-up creating radicals!

O-Trap Chief Shenanigans Officer
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Sat, Aug 18, 2018 4:00 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

Very much like religious zealotry.

Agreed.

I'm certainly no Buddhist, but that's one thing I've always liked about the ideology.  The "radical" Buddhists (with notable exceptions) have been fairly nonviolent.

geeblock Member
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Sat, Aug 18, 2018 6:35 PM
posted by justincredible

https://www.thewrap.com/queer-eye-star-jonathan-van-ness-attacked-online-after-saying-not-all-republicans-are-racist/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

So really the whole new Uncle Tom argument doesn’t exactly hold water. White people supporting trump get it as bad or even worse. 

gut Senior Member
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Sat, Aug 18, 2018 9:40 PM
posted by geeblock

So really the whole new Uncle Tom argument doesn’t exactly hold water. White people supporting trump get it as bad or even worse. 

I'm not sure it follows there's "no Uncle Tom argument" just because liberals also shame women and gays for being Republican

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Sun, Aug 19, 2018 7:29 AM

So yesterday on twitteralmost all of the liberal media posted an article about ICE detaining a man that was driving his pregnant wife to the hospital. Cue lefty outrage. One KEY piece of information they left out was that the man was wanted for MURDER! 

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Sun, Aug 19, 2018 9:25 AM

So as of right now, the democrat party is for:

1.) We're against anything Trump

2.) Identity politics

3.) Voter shaming

What else are they offering people that will reach out to voters? What are they actually offering? What are they offering middle America/rust belt? What are their plans to bolster the economy? Are they willing to cut corporate ties? 

Spock Senior Member
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Sun, Aug 19, 2018 10:01 AM
posted by CenterBHSFan

So as of right now, the democrat party is for:

1.) We're against anything Trump

2.) Identity politics

3.) Voter shaming

What else are they offering people that will reach out to voters? What are they actually offering? What are they offering middle America/rust belt? What are their plans to bolster the economy? Are they willing to cut corporate ties? 

you forgot victim blaming

O-Trap Chief Shenanigans Officer
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Sun, Aug 19, 2018 2:34 PM
posted by gut

I'm not sure it follows there's "no Uncle Tom argument" just because liberals also shame women and gays for being Republican

Have a friend who is a gay female immigrant (and also a Christian and Republican).  Went to the pride parade in Columbus and got the business in spades.  She and her wife had to leave, because they honestly thought there were a few people ready to assault her for not being a Democrat.

Don't get me wrong, she can't stand Trump, but that's apparently not good enough.

gut Senior Member
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Sun, Aug 19, 2018 5:06 PM
posted by O-Trap

Don't get me wrong, she can't stand Trump, but that's apparently not good enough.

Thing is, liberals secretly LOVE Trump.  They need him.  Some on the left have a physiological need to be outraged, and Trump gives them that.

Boggles the mind with so much to dislike Trump for, people still need to make-up crap?   Or my personal favorite, the "hypothetical" where liberals become infuriated by a possible outcome of something Trump might do should a specific situation present itself.  

Spock Senior Member
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Sun, Aug 19, 2018 7:04 PM
posted by O-Trap

Have a friend who is a gay female immigrant (and also a Christian and Republican).  Went to the pride parade in Columbus and got the business in spades.  She and her wife had to leave, because they honestly thought there were a few people ready to assault her for not being a Democrat.

Don't get me wrong, she can't stand Trump, but that's apparently not good enough.

Do they wear patches on their jackets that say Republican?

geeblock Member
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Sun, Aug 19, 2018 7:07 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

So as of right now, the democrat party is for:

1.) We're against anything Trump

2.) Identity politics

3.) Voter shaming

What else are they offering people that will reach out to voters? What are they actually offering? What are they offering middle America/rust belt? What are their plans to bolster the economy? Are they willing to cut corporate ties? 

Trump is for middle America? What is he offering? Short term small tax cut but wages are flat and ur insurance is cut and please don’t get sick cause u can lose a family legacy of money if they say it was a preexisting condition. But they have free health care. You don’t deserve it though 

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Sun, Aug 19, 2018 7:37 PM
posted by geeblock

Trump is for middle America? What is he offering? Short term small tax cut but wages are flat and ur insurance is cut and please don’t get sick cause u can lose a family legacy of money if they say it was a preexisting condition. But they have free health care. You don’t deserve it though 

I don't know what you're talking about because: 1.) I'm not a Trump fan and 2.) I specifically asked what dems are doing to entice the vote.

It's really just that easy.

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justincredible Honorable Admin
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Mon, Aug 20, 2018 8:49 AM
posted by CenterBHSFan

Oh...

https://twitter.com/RoamingMil/status/1030616396181512192

Poked around her timeline and found this gem as well. Apparently Michelle Wolf's Netflix series was cancelled because she's a woman, not because it was a massive dumpster fire of a show.

https://twitter.com/bessbell/status/1031003785085235201

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