posted by jmogI call bull shit, unless you truly believe that it is impossible for a black person to be racist...(hint, it is possible).
No, you see the left made up a new definition of racism where you have to have some imaginanary power to be racist, not just actually hating someone for being a color.
posted by like_thatIf you read the thread, I never said they were called uncle toms. I explained the modern day "uncle tom" tactics. Please try to keep it.
As for the bolded: Each "extraordinary" claim is completely independent from each other, so IOW you're narrative that conservatives overreact to everything the left does/says is largely exaggerated.
Define "Uncle Tom Tactic" - is it refusing to give special credence to black conservatives who criticize contemporary liberalism just because they're black? Because it sounds to me like that's what you want.
Ok leaving the black people out of it. Who are the smartest, richest, most popular, most respected white person that endors trump?
posted by iclfan2No, you see the left made up a new definition of racism where you have to have some imaginanary power to be racist, not just actually hating someone for being a color.
Which in situations that don't fit the narrative, you get made-up terms like "Hispanic white supremacist".
posted by geeblockPeople that are confirmed racists vote republican does that mean there aren’t some extra racists that vote dem? It’s possible but if u put the trump agenda and the nazi/klan agenda side by side they line up well . There is a reason trump supporters on here and everywhere are complaining about being called racists. It’s the party where racists go. So ok 99%. We can bicker about the number but my point is accurate. I can give you multiple nazi groups and links from kkk that show what party they endorse if necessary I guess
posted by geeblock
https://www.vox.com/2016/2/28/11129120/donald-trump-david-duke
posted by geeblockhttps://www.vox.com/2017/8/12/16138358/charlottesville-protests-david-duke-kkk
posted by geeblockI can go all day
posted by geeblock
I ask for you to prove that 100% racists vote republican, and you give me anecdotal evidence (lol at using an op-ed btw). All of this is based on your assumption that racism is exclusive to white conservatives, which in itself is pretty racist logic.
Pretty much sums at your entire argument.
posted by ptown_trojans_1Sure, but that was the 1980s and he was the last big southern democratic. There really isn't a southern democrat anymore. I mean you have one or two more near some urban areas, but for the most part, the south his really, really red and has been since the early 80s.
This is based on the assumption that the entire south is racist. All i hear is how the big switch came after the civil rights act even though
-Only 1/21 dem senators crossed over to the GOP after the civil rights act was passed. It took over 2 decades for the other 20 seats to turn red.
-The GOP was already competitive in the south well before the civil rights act.
-The GOP didn't hold a majority of southern seats until 1996. Keep in mind after the civl rights act two democratic presidents won the south.
All of this and you're telling me that the GOP decided to become racist 30 years later? Not to if you look at the states with the highest % of of african americans, it is dominated by the south. You would think if the south was so racist, the African Americans in those states would quit voting for conservatives. Quit moving the goalposts on the "parties switched" argument. You know it is deeply flawed. If you want to look why the south votes for the GOP over DNC all you have to do is look at the values of the south. The DNC has completely abandoned the bible belt and the GOP hasn't. There is your simple answer.
posted by ptown_trojans_1geeblock, you can go all day, but at the end, people voted for the guy. They voted for a borderline racist. That's America in a nutshell. Clinton was so bad, we decided to go with the borderline racist.
I was wondering who would be the first to come in with the superiority complex and virtue signal. Not shocked at all it was you at all.
posted by geeblockTake a history class lol
I'd recommend you take your own advice and pick up many other types of classes and books. A lot of the things you claim to be are easily being picked apart by your own posts.
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posted by ptown_trojans_1Sure, but that was the 1980s and he was the last big southern democratic. There really isn't a southern democrat anymore. I mean you have one or two more near some urban areas, but for the most part, the south his really, really red and has been since the early 80s.
This is based on the assumption that the entire south is racist. All i hear is how the big switch came after the civil rights act even though
-Only 1/21 dem senators crossed over to the GOP after the civil rights act was passed. It took over 2 decades for the other 20 seats to turn red.
-The GOP was already competitive in the south well before the civil rights act.
-The GOP didn't hold a majority of southern seats until 1996. Keep in mind after the civl rights act two democratic presidents won the south.
All of this and you're telling me that the GOP decided to become racist 30 years later? Not to if you look at the states with the highest % of of african americans, it is dominated by the south. You would think if the south was so racist, the African Americans in those states would quit voting for conservatives. Quit moving the goalposts on the "parties switched" argument. You know it is deeply flawed. If you want to look why the south votes for the GOP over DNC all you have to do is look at the values of the south. The DNC has completely abandoned the bible belt and the GOP hasn't. There is your simple answer.
True. All I was saying was the modern parties change over time and hence you cannot say the democrats created the Klan, so therefore all Ds are racists. We agree that I wasn't saying everyone in the south is racist.
I guess a better way to say it is the parties we know today started to form in the 80s with Reagan, but then really became what they are in the 90s.
I'd also agree that the DNC has abandoned the bible belt while the GOP has pretty much abandoned urban areas and the northeast.
posted by ptown_trojans_1True. All I was saying was the modern parties change over time and hence you cannot say the democrats created the Klan, so therefore all Ds are racists.
Which of course wasn't said. I said the first part as context to disprove an implication clearly being made by another poster.
posted by ptown_trojans_1True. All I was saying was the modern parties change over time and hence you cannot say the democrats created the Klan, so therefore all Ds are racists. We agree that I wasn't saying everyone in the south is racist.
I guess a better way to say it is the parties we know today started to form in the 80s with Reagan, but then really became what they are in the 90s.
I'd also agree that the DNC has abandoned the bible belt while the GOP has pretty much abandoned urban areas and the northeast.
Fair. Regardless, to legitimately believe that all racists vote for the GOP is a joke. 1. As I said earlier it's under the assumption that racism is exclusive to only white conservatives, which in itself is racist logic and 2. this is based on the left arbitrarily moving the goalposts and decided what is/isn't racism.
All of this btw, and Trumps approval ratings with black people has gone from 17% a year a go to 36% now. He has a lot of character issues, but hopefully this is a sign that black people are waking up and realizing that the democrats don't give a fuck about them, never will give a fuck about them, and will continue to do nothing for them, except fool them into believing they have their best interests in mind.
posted by queencitybuckeyeWhich in situations that don't fit the narrative, you get made-up terms like "Hispanic white supremacist".
I just don't think oppressing blacks is probably very high on the list of things that are important to your typical redneck racist. And why would it be, if we're to believe all the arguments about white privilege?
But the truth is, the instant black people stop blindly voting against "racist Repubs" then identity politics will be dead in the Democratic party because none of them will be able to win an election.
Really interesting comment I saw the other day was that BOTH parties have an interest in perpetuating these stereotypes, because if people would put the racial division aside and recognize the issue is more about WEALTH privilege, then poor people find unity and perhaps force a change to the status quo. And the reality is Dems and Repubs aren't particularly interested in changing the status quo, but only about winning elections.
posted by like_thatFair. Regardless, to legitimately believe that all racists vote for the GOP is a joke. 1. As I said earlier it's under the assumption that racism is exclusive to only white conservatives, which in itself is racist logic and 2. this is based on the left arbitrarily moving the goalposts and decided what is/isn't racism.
All of this btw, and Trumps approval ratings with black people has gone from 17% a year a go to 36% now. He has a lot of character issues, but hopefully this is a sign that black people are waking up and realizing that the democrats don't give a fuck about them, never will give a fuck about them, and will continue to do nothing for them.
Who did that poll?
posted by gutI just don't think oppressing blacks is probably very high on the list of things that are important to your typical redneck racist. And why would it be, if we're to believe all the arguments about white privilege?
But the truth is, the instant black people stop blindly voting against "racist Repubs" then identity politics will be dead in the Democratic party because none of them will be able to win an election.
Really interesting comment I saw the other day was that BOTH parties have an interest in perpetuating these stereotypes, because if people would put the racial division aside and recognize the issue is more about WEALTH privilege, then poor people find unity and perhaps force a change to the status quo. And the reality is Dems and Repubs aren't particularly interested in changing the status quo, but only about winning elections.
Dems know this and this is why they have slowly been moving away from pretending they GAF about blacks and now playing with their new identity politics play book with illegals and muslims.
Ok, so this is floating all over the news/social media right now. I honestly don't even
posted by CenterBHSFanOk, so this is floating all over the news/social media right now. I honestly don't even
why did the article have to state in the first paragraph that they were both vegatarians??
posted by CenterBHSFanOk, so this is floating all over the news/social media right now. I honestly don't even
Before people get upset about the source, this is story is being reported by source (CBS, NY times, etc). I can't comprehend their logic. This story pretty much epitomzes modern day "progressive" thought.
posted by like_thatBefore people get upset about the source, this is story is being reported by source (CBS, NY times, etc). I can't comprehend their logic. This story pretty much epitomzes modern day "progressive" thought.
I really would have bet the story was fake. Basically checks every box for the millenial stereotype (i.e. quitting the job to experience the world, vegan/vegetarian, naive stupidity, etc...)
"Central Asia is generally safe".....so is Chicago, until you find yourself in the wrong part of Chicago.
posted by gutI really would have bet the story was fake. Basically checks every box for the millenial stereotype (i.e. quitting the job to experience the world, vegan/vegetarian, naive stupidity, etc...)
I thought it was too, especially considering the source.
I looked for white people who supported trump and it seems like the Uncle Tom tactic lost steam cause they caught equal or as much heat as the conservative blacks.. it might b biased considering it is Scott baio
So, I come across this vid earlier this morning. I watch Jimmy Dore a handful of times per week. I disagree with him about many, many things - but I always find him interesting. Now, Jimmy Dore is super progressive, spawned off by The Young Turks. In this video he pretty much is forced to defend Trump in some things, something of which I see a lot of left-leaning people doing on FB, YT, Twitter, etc. I have to wonder if this phenomenon comes from the intense dislike of Hillary only, or if it is just a combination of things. Personally, I can't even make it past Trump's twitter account... his character is repulsive to me and I can't get beyond it. I have given him fair chances to bring me over but I don't think he's interested in pulling to his side people like me.
But anyway, here is Jimmy Dore explaining part of the reason why Hillary Clinton was not the lesser of two evils:
posted by geeblockWho did that poll?
Rasmussen
https://twitter.com/rasmussen_poll/status/1029749433129492480?s=12
